Poll: Chaos as a religion

[BiscuitTrouser]

Slaanesh. No contest. No horrific downsides other than losing myself in a life of pleasure? Sign me up. Or korne. Slaanesh and korne have simple needs. They dont want complicated things. They know what they want and pleasing them is easy. Spill blood, yours or theirs, or have as much fun as you can. Pretty simple.

You sound like you're trying to sell me on it XD

But seriously, that would seem so incredibly tempting.

He is the God of betrayal. When you need your powers most expect them to fail spectacularly. Other than korne (which is debatable) tzeenches subjects are the most likely to murder eachother. Knife in the back.

In a lore book i read once tzeench thought a magician was so arrogant he implanted memories of a life where he was called "Eric Filthson", the weakest and most craven member of a tribe alongside the memories of becoming a crazy powerfull magician then watched him go crazy over which one was real and which one was a dream. These memories took effect whenever he passes out or sleeps. That kinda thing super entertains him. Expect sanity to be fleeting.

 

[Rawne1980]

I'll be over there with a Slaanesh cult.

While you lot are off killing i'll be in a massive orgy pissed out my tree.

 

[BiscuitTrouser]

But at least from my bare understanding that I get from the first post, aren't you then essentially giving up anything you wanted beforehand for killing or a need for pleasure? Sounds kind of like something you'd lose yourself in.

Well that does make it sound a lot more unappealing. Now not trusting other subjects of Tzeentch I could deal with, but if I have Tzeentch actually out to get me with no way for me to avoid it... that sounds like a problem.

If you die NOT as a result of direct betrayal by either him or his subjects hes failed. In the same way a khornite warrior needs to die on combat. There is no such thing as ultimate success with tzeench. khorne wants his warriors to be ultimately powerful to entertain him with violence. Tzeench wants his warriors to be ultimately powerful so when he removes it all unexpectedly its even more amusing. Dont worry though, tzeench never wastes an investment, unless you do something particularly stupid youll get a good 100 years or so before he gets bored.

 

[MrPeanut]

Another thing Tzeentch likes to do for amusement is massive mutations (see: Thousand sons) and that could be a big problem.

 

[ClockworkPenguin]

Tzeentch would tempt me greatly. Giving up my own freedom, I could rationalize that I might get more freedom than before simply through the power I am given by my knowledge and magic. Of course this is only based on what you've told me, I don't know the lore myself. I don't know how demanding he might be.

Generally at first you would not notice him manipulating you (he is usually quite subtly), but as your knowledge grows you will most likely notice that you are being used as a tool for this schemes.

Most members of the cult of Tzeentch accept that their patron is using them, and even more don't care (as he gives you what you want... just controls how much you would desire)

I think I could deal with that. I feel like I would probably attain more than I would normally anyhow.

The knowledge you would reap in a few short years would dwarf all the knowledge you would have attained in your entire life, and with it you could bend the very fabric of reality to your whims.

With that power you could atomize a battle tank, or wrench a soul from a fool hardy foe with just a snap of your wrist, your imagination would be your limit....hell you could probably even go past that.

You sound like you're trying to sell me on it XD

But seriously, that would seem so incredibly tempting.

I've got to say, knowledge is tempting, but i don' think its worth the cost. It all seems a bit evil. So what I'd do is vocally condemn all the cults, but then use the papers/patent reports filed by Tzeeentchites or whatever they're called to work it out for myself anyway.

I'd be a thief and a hypocrite, but at least i'd get to keep my soul.

 

[Fieldy409_v1legacy]

Tzeentch would tempt me greatly. Giving up my own freedom, I could rationalize that I might get more freedom than before simply through the power I am given by my knowledge and magic. Of course this is only based on what you've told me, I don't know the lore myself. I don't know how demanding he might be.

Generally at first you would not notice him manipulating you (he is usually quite subtly), but as your knowledge grows you will most likely notice that you are being used as a tool for this schemes.

Most members of the cult of Tzeentch accept that their patron is using them, and even more don't care (as he gives you what you want... just controls how much you would desire)

I think I could deal with that. I feel like I would probably attain more than I would normally anyhow.

The knowledge you would reap in a few short years would dwarf all the knowledge you would have attained in your entire life, and with it you could bend the very fabric of reality to your whims.

With that power you could atomize a battle tank, or wrench a soul from a fool hardy foe with just a snap of your wrist, your imagination would be your limit....hell you could probably even go past that.

You sound like you're trying to sell me on it XD

But seriously, that would seem so incredibly tempting.

I've got to say, knowledge is tempting, but i don' think its worth the cost. It all seems a bit evil. So what I'd do is vocally condemn all the cults, but then use the papers/patent reports filed by Tzeeentchites or whatever they're called to work it out for myself anyway.

I'd be a thief and a hypocrite, but at least i'd get to keep my soul.

Getting to keep your soul isnt really guranteed if you piss off Tzeentch....

Also I believe it it Tzeentchian.

 

[Nouw]

Death to the heratics! GLORY FOR THE GOD EMPEROR!!!

This thread is unclean, let us purge it together brother!

 

[Fieldy409_v1legacy]

Oh btw Khorne... Ahem I mean HERESY!

 

[ultrachicken]

I'm not super familiar with Warhammer 40k lore, but as a general rule, these kinds of groups and gods have severe tendencies to backstab their recruits. Which means joining is not a very good idea.

And, these groups also have a tendency to actively try to kill people who aren't members, as well, which means I might as well condemn them and go down fighting.

That said, if I had to join one, I'd pick Nurgle. No suffering ever, and ugliness is subjective.

 

[ClockworkPenguin]

*Sigh*
I suppose we'll have to cleanse this planet as well, for the Greater Good. These primitives and their silly religions...

You do realize that Daemon worlds cannot be destroyed?

If that were true it would be super ironic. It would make them the only things in the universe not obeying the law of entropy.

 

[MrPeanut]

*Sigh*
I suppose we'll have to cleanse this planet as well, for the Greater Good. These primitives and their silly religions...

You do realize that Daemon worlds cannot be destroyed?

If that were true it would be super ironic. It would make them the only things in the universe not obeying the law of entropy.

Lets put it this way: Daemon worlds do not obey the laws of the universe since they are pretty much warp energies (not part of "this" universe).

If someone, say the Tyranids or Necrons, who had anti warp tech, were to come close, the world would "disappear" as the warp energies collapsed.

But for someone like the Imperium, daemon worlds are indestructible.

 

[The Night Angel]

I'll go with Khorne, those physical abilities sound fun, plus I get to kill stuff

 

[EscapeGoat_v1legacy]

If the cults from warhammer (and warhammer 40k)started existing as of this day, what would you do?
Would you join them? Condemn them? (as a note the cults provide the same benefits as in the lore)

None of them. You know why? Because none of them are truly chaotic. They all act to a predefined set of ideals and expected mannerisms. People expect Khorne to shed blood, Nurgle to spread disease, Tzeentch to cause mutations and Slaanesh to enthrall and seduce. That isn't chaos. That's order.

I follow the true God of Chaos. You may not know his name, but he was always there, and always shall be.

He is Malal. He is Malice. He is Anarchy. To follow Malal is to destroy order, even if that means turning on yourself for falling into a routine. He is the embodiment of paradox and destruction. He is True Chaos.

He is the God who causes fear in the hearts and souls of the lesser Chaos Gods. He is the Outcast God, who laughs upon the fringes of space. He is Chaos, and we are the Sons of Malice.

"...and he that went before now came last, and that which was white and black and all direction was thrown against itself. Grown mightily indignant at the words of the Gods, Malal did turn his heart against them and flee into the chambers of space . . . And no man looked to Malal then, save those that serve that which they hate, who smile upon their misfortune, and who bear no love save for the damned. At such times as a warrior's heart turns to Malal, all Gods of Chaos grow fearful, and the laughter of the Outcast God fills the tomb of space . . ."

 

[ClockworkPenguin]

*Sigh*
I suppose we'll have to cleanse this planet as well, for the Greater Good. These primitives and their silly religions...

You do realize that Daemon worlds cannot be destroyed?

If that were true it would be super ironic. It would make them the only things in the universe not obeying the law of entropy.

Lets put it this way: Daemon worlds do not obey the laws of the universe since they are pretty much warp energies (not part of "this" universe).

If someone, say the Tyranids or Necrons, who had anti warp tech, were to come close, the world would "disappear" as the warp energies collapsed.

But for someone like the Imperium, daemon worlds are indestructible.

Interesting. I don't know much about Warhammer, cos i couldn't be arsed with all the painting, but surely there must be some kind of threshold at which this can happen. They can't just rock up and mess with reality because they have 2 worshippers (can they?). Not even Cthulu has that kind of mojo.

 

[Doclector]

I laugh at your silly little chaos gods. We all laugh at them. We laugh at a lot of things. Sometimes we laugh at laughing, sometimes we laugh at goats, for we are the followers of the true madgod, lord sheogorath! AAAAHAAAAAHAHAHAAAAA!

 

[MrPeanut]

*Sigh*
I suppose we'll have to cleanse this planet as well, for the Greater Good. These primitives and their silly religions...

You do realize that Daemon worlds cannot be destroyed?

If that were true it would be super ironic. It would make them the only things in the universe not obeying the law of entropy.

Lets put it this way: Daemon worlds do not obey the laws of the universe since they are pretty much warp energies (not part of "this" universe).

If someone, say the Tyranids or Necrons, who had anti warp tech, were to come close, the world would "disappear" as the warp energies collapsed.

But for someone like the Imperium, daemon worlds are indestructible.

Interesting. I don't know much about Warhammer, cos i couldn't be arsed with all the painting, but surely there must be some kind of threshold at which this can happen. They can't just rock up and mess with reality because they have 2 worshippers (can they?). Not even Cthulu has that kind of mojo.

Well, the Chaos Gods themselves have to channel warp energies to the planet for this to actually happen.

Most of the time the planets are in the Eye of Terror which is halfway in the warp already, and the rules of reality do not apply there. But I think some Daemon Prince's have been gifted worlds outside the EoT.

 

[Fieldy409_v1legacy]

*Sigh*
I suppose we'll have to cleanse this planet as well, for the Greater Good. These primitives and their silly religions...

You do realize that Daemon worlds cannot be destroyed?

If that were true it would be super ironic. It would make them the only things in the universe not obeying the law of entropy.

Lets put it this way: Daemon worlds do not obey the laws of the universe since they are pretty much warp energies (not part of "this" universe).

If someone, say the Tyranids or Necrons, who had anti warp tech, were to come close, the world would "disappear" as the warp energies collapsed.

But for someone like the Imperium, daemon worlds are indestructible.

Interesting. I don't know much about Warhammer, cos i couldn't be arsed with all the painting, but surely there must be some kind of threshold at which this can happen. They can't just rock up and mess with reality because they have 2 worshippers (can they?). Not even Cthulu has that kind of mojo.

Its the minds with those with psychic potential(entire human race, entire eldar race...various other minor alien races who dont get army lists) that allow the chaos gods to exist, you dont have to worship them you just have to feel the emotions that they represent. That feeling affects the warp. Worship gives them more power but basically as long as there are masses of emotional psychic minds affecting the warp there will be chaos gods.

The eye of terror where most of the demon worlds are is an area of space where the warp exploded into the normal universe through the brains of the Eldar because the Eldars minds had given birth to the chaos god of lust Slaanesh.

Only a few Eldar escaped this fate(unfortunatly, arrogant pricks they are...)

 

[Smertnik]

Kay-osh! Chaos-men, chaosmen. Men no. Nem no, men yes, three nose make a yes.