Poll: Compensation for PSN users?

[GonzoGamer]

I would say PS+ people and DCUO people should get money back.

Sony don't owe us anything 'cos PSN is free but they will give us something as a way of getting some good PR back.

Sony doesn't really owe you anything over the loss of the free service, but they CERTAINLY owe you for losing your private data.

Why?

It card be hard to change your personal data and inform your bank of the problem.

It wasn't like Sony just had a sale of PSN users information, hackers are the ones who took the data.

At the most it's a minor inconvenience.

Unless you know what they used to secure it, the topic is pointless.

The same goes for steam though, I was shocked when I bought a game this morning (my second ever) I had to put no info in at all!

I was thinking I would have to atleast put the 3 digit code on the back of the card in but it was just click it through. If that got hacked it would be equally as bad.

If I told you that I would watch your dog and take care of while you were away, and then while your dog was in my care, I didn't watch it carefully enough and it ran out into the street and was hit by a car, wouldn't I then owe you for letting your dog get hit by a car?

That's what happened here; Sony let 77 million dogs get hit by a car.

They very fact that they lost our data is in and of itself a wrongful thing for them to do. And yes, it's really a pain in the ass when your major credit card that you use for your bills and other services is suddenly unusable.

They don't really match up, if you were looking after my cash and you had it on the passanger seat of you car while you parked in a car park, when it got lifted I would hold you responable.

If I asked you hold my cash and you put it in a safe and secure place then, I could hardley hold you responsable for that.

I doubt sony just left the data on a train (cookies for that referance), I think they put it in atleast a safe place, the fact somebody hacked it isn't sonys fault.

The question tho is how safe was the place that they put it in? They were entrusted with the personal info of 77 million people.

Unfortunately for Sony, as the amount of responsibility that you undertake goes up, so does your duty to uphold that responsiblity.

For example, if i entrust you with 100 dollars of my money, and you hide it in lets say a 50 dollar Wal-Mart safe, then you probably satisfied your duty to protect my property

However, if I entrust you with the HOPE DIAMOND, and you put it in a 50 dollar Wal-Mart safe, then you have failed miserably in your duty.

That's the question here, a lot of us are arguing that Sony didn't take adequate measures given the enormity and gravity of the amount of information that they were entrusted with.

I would say PS+ people and DCUO people should get money back.

Sony don't owe us anything 'cos PSN is free but they will give us something as a way of getting some good PR back.

Sony doesn't really owe you anything over the loss of the free service, but they CERTAINLY owe you for losing your private data.

Why?

It card be hard to change your personal data and inform your bank of the problem.

It wasn't like Sony just had a sale of PSN users information, hackers are the ones who took the data.

At the most it's a minor inconvenience.

If I told you that I would watch your dog and take care of while you were away, and then while your dog was in my care, I didn't watch it carefully enough and it ran out into the street and was hit by a car, wouldn't I then owe you for letting your dog get hit by a car?

That's what happened here; Sony let 77 million dogs get hit by a car.

They very fact that they lost our data is in and of itself a wrongful thing for them to do. And yes, it's really a pain in the ass when your major credit card that you use for your bills and other services is suddenly unusable.

They don't really match up, if you were looking after my cash and you had it on the passanger seat of you car while you parked in a car park, when it got lifted I would hold you responable.

If I asked you hold my cash and you put it in a safe and secure place then, I could hardley hold you responsable for that.

I doubt sony just left the data on a train (cookies for that referance), I think they put it in atleast a safe place, the fact somebody hacked it isn't sonys fault.

Sony don't owe us anything 'cos PSN is free but they will give us something as a way of getting some good PR back.

I would say they owe us more than an explanation at this point.
And if this breach is the only reason someone might sign up for credit monitoring, I think they should be compensated.

I already had one so I only had to change a few passwords but if this prompted me to sign up to one, I would be joining that class action lawsuit.

Why? It's not like Sony set there security as the number 4 as a password and that was it. If hackers want to hack something they will, blaming Sony for people hacking it is stupid to me.

Would be like blaming your car company if somebody broke into it and stole your radio.

No, it's not like that at all.
As they decided to have such an elaborate online component, they do need to have some sort of assurance to the users that the data entered is safe. If they were unable to do so, they should've set everything up differently... which they could have. BUT, they were more interested in making it easier for us to make little microtransactions on PSN and in the end, they couldn't back it up.

If we are able to sue the hackers, we should but we shouldn't forget who laid out everything (including the challenge) to them.

Don't banks say there going to secure your money but look what happened all over the world, wide spread recession. I am also pretty sure banks still get robbed, would you sue the bank for getting robbed?

Even the most secure thing can still be robbed. Have you never watched Oceans 11,12 or 13?

Joking aside, I don't know secure our data is/was but I can't imagine them just password protecting it with a simple password, that a 4 year old could hack.

As long as there were was a system in place that was thought to be sufficant at the time, I can't fault them.

I haven't been hawking around PSN twitter or there forums for info, so I am not 100% up to date on the whole affair but I doubt there saying "our password for all of the private data was: "password" ... whoops! Sorry for that boo boo".

If your bank gets robbed, they still give you your money you know. As for the financial meltdown, the only people that think that worked out fairly are politicians and the top people at the top financial institutions because they really should be rotting in jail.

My point is that they wanted to make security loose enough that you didn't have to put in your CC info every time you made a transaction because they wanted everybody to make a lot of transactions. Since they made everything that way, their security should've been able to back it up. Maybe you're right and there's no way they could've kept everything safe but then they should've said "you have to enter your CC info with every transaction so your data remains secure."

See abouve for my steam comment.

What would you suggest 'cos every shop I know online has more or less the exact same system, were most of your data is kept so you have to put in little to no info to speed it up.

I would suggest they Don't do that if they can't really back that shit up. Same goes for Paypal. It can be a useful service but if they can't keep their info secure (as we learned they couldn't a few years ago), they shouldn't hold onto it. In fact, I hold Paypal in even less regard because that was their primary job.

 

[Conza]

We deserve compensation, and Playstation knows that, so their providing it in the form of Playstation plus for 1 month, and a few other things which I can't recall.

It would be negligence to do nothing, but, perhaps they should do more, we'll see.