Poll: Conker's Bad Fur Day: Mature or Not?

[Random Argument Man]

It has element that are not for children. (Sex, drugs, war, gorefest, etc). I'd say it's an immature game for adults... Bayonetta was what now?

Saying Nintendo is "only for kids" and dismissing every exemples of the contrary is only being closed-minded. Besides, Nintendo only publishes the game if I recall.

 

[NegaWiki]

There are some adult references, but that's about it. I like to think about it in the same sense as My Little Pony: Season 3 is going to be darker than the last two, but how dark can you get in that demographic? In this regard, Conker's Bad Fur Day is mature... as a children's game. Compare it to mature games on other systems and it falls flat.

 

[Relish in Chaos]

Sometimes, I don't even know what mature is anymore. Since I haven't played Conker's Bad Fur Day anymore, allow me to provide another example: Mortal Kombat.

From the looks of it, it's a fairly usual fighting game with weapons and the like...but the hook is the over-the-top gory violence. In that sense, it's "mature"...but I'd prefer to just call it "for adults", since the way they handle the gore and violence isn't "mature" in the strictest sense of the word. It's cartoonishly pandering. Nothing wrong with that, but adding blood into a video game doesn't suddenly make it "mature". It just makes it more appropriate for adults, even though it's kids that will actually be squealing about getting the chance to play a "forbidden" fighting game where you can literally tear the head off your opponent if you beat them.

 

[pilouuuu]

Who cares as long as it's fun? XD

 

[Wayneguard]

Who cares as long as it's fun? XD

Conker was so fucking fun. And goddamn hilarious. I loved that game...

 

[Exius Xavarus]

Conker's Bad Fur Day presents mature content in an immature manner.

 

[ScrabbitRabbit]

There are some adult references, but that's about it. I like to think about it in the same sense as My Little Pony: Season 3 is going to be darker than the last two, but how dark can you get in that demographic? In this regard, Conker's Bad Fur Day is mature... as a children's game. Compare it to mature games on other systems and it falls flat.

Have you played the game? It has swearing, gore and alcoholism. It is not a children's game, it is not aimed at the demographic you think it is. It's aimed at pretty much the same audience things like South Park and Family Guy are.

I wouldn't call it "mature" but it's definitely aimed at an older audience. Plenty of games on Nintendo systems are, Eternal Darkness was published by Nintendo and that's about as far from a kid's game as you can get.

 

[WoW Killer]

No. Having naughty words and content doesn't make something mature. It gives it a higher content rating. In the majority of cases in video games (often in music and films too), having such things is more likely to be an active attempt to appeal to adolescents. It's only adult in the sense of what gets called adult in the playground. Every kid wants to play the naughty game. It's like calling the Outhere Brothers "mature music".

But then, calling a game or a company's games "kidified" seems to be catering to this same juvenile meaning of "adult" and "mature", so use that argument if you like. It's true that Nintendo had a family friendly policy in the past. In particular they had issues with the unedited version of Mortal Kombat and demanded some changes in the SNES version. I don't think they have such a policy anymore.

To be fair, Nintendo have probably come closer than anybody to creating an adult gaming market, with the likes of Brain Training for the DS or Wii Fitness. That's what adult gaming is, not titties and swearing.

Edit:

Here's an example of marketing towards adults:

 

[NegaWiki]

There are some adult references, but that's about it. I like to think about it in the same sense as My Little Pony: Season 3 is going to be darker than the last two, but how dark can you get in that demographic? In this regard, Conker's Bad Fur Day is mature... as a children's game. Compare it to mature games on other systems and it falls flat.

Have you played the game? It has swearing, gore and alcoholism. It is not a children's game, it is not aimed at the demographic you think it is. It's aimed at pretty much the same audience things like South Park and Family Guy are.

I wouldn't call it "mature" but it's definitely aimed at an older audience. Plenty of games on Nintendo systems are, Eternal Darkness was published by Nintendo and that's about as far from a kid's game as you can get.

I actually did play this game, as a child. Every one I know who loves this game remembered it as a kick ass part of their childhood You know, that game your parents forbade you to play? Target demographic was the wrong word, but I'd like to know which demographic actually bought the game.

 

[Shadowstar38]

The word you are looking for here is juvenile. It has adult themes but are presented in a way that makes it so a 12 year old finds it appealing.

I only consider something "mature" when it presents we with something to think about without being juvenile about it. Actually, No More Heroes inversely does that.

 

[Fishyash]

If that guy was asking for mature as in with the writing, rather than "adult content", then that really has no relevance to the discussion of nintendo's "kiddification".

It's up to the developers as to how mature their game is, and nintendo has already proven they won't do anything to prevent that from happening, because all PEGI and the likes care about are whether there's blood, tits and swearing. How the hell does whether conker is "mature" or not even bear even the slightest of relevancy to that discussion?

 

[mjcabooseblu]

You are aware that I'm notified if you quote me, right?

And no, I was not complaining that the game would be "kiddified," I was expressing concern that they would ruin it as they are wont to do with such things (see also: Call of Duty World at War.)

If you had said, say, that Conker's was a "mature-rated" game rather than a "mature" game, my response may have been different.

 

[Nieroshai]

Does it have "Mature content?" Yes. Is it by any means mature? Hell no, it's downright crude and silly. And that's what makes it fun.

 

[Strain42]

Conker's Bad Fur Day presents mature content in an immature manner.

I agree with this sentiment.

Conker was satirical, it was actually a very clever game through its writing style, use of parody and indeed a few knocks to how video games themselves seem to work (Context Sensitive)

Was the game rude, crude and juvenile? Hell yeah it was.

But I consider a game that shows evidence of well done satire and an interesting commentary on a lot of events, tropes and genres all displayed in a silly fashion to be much more mature than what I guarantee a lot of people would consider to be "mature" titles just because they're gritty, dark and serious.

 

[Groxnax]

Is CBFD mature? Yes, yes, yes.

Look at the first video; it's a singing pile of poop.

There is also sex jokes, references to mature movies and table legs made out of animals.

 

[StriderShinryu]

Is it mature? Heck no. Not even close. Is it appropriate for children? Also no.

It really depends on what variation of mature you're going by. By the ESRB definition, I suppose it is at least a T but probably more likely an M. By the actual real definition of the word, however, it most certainly isn't mature.

 

[RicoGrey]

Well, I suppose it depends on your definition of mature. My kids are only 4 and 2, so no way I am letting them play this game, but if they were past puberty, yeah sure, why not, it is not that bad. Of course this game came out quite a while ago, so it was more likely mature back then. Just to put in context, I am 30 years old, and I played this game in my teens. I think the teenage or college age crowd is appropriate.

So I guess my vote is YES it is mature.

 

[Baron von Blitztank]

Mature? Just look at the majority of the boss fights!

-A sentient boiler piloted by fire demons which are extinguished by weeing on them. To defeat the boss itself you smash it's bulging "balls of brass" dangling beneath him with bricks.
-A sentient pile of shit that sings opera music. Defeated by throwing toilet paper into his mouth and flushing him down a massive toilet.
-A giant caveman who gets his groin munched on by a T-Rex.

So, mature? No, but I wouldn't exactly give it to young children due to the copious amounts of boozing, swearing and blood it has.

Spoiler: But DAMN is it fun!

 

[Alternative]

Its an incredibly immature game that should only be played by a mature audience.

It embraces the immaturity however and because of that it is hilarious.