Poll: Corn Chips vs Potato Chips.

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Potatoes. Potatoes all the way.

 

[Vicarious Reality]

Corn is absolutely horrid in any form but straight from the cob and even then it needs plenty of butter
Fried corn just tastes rancid

Not that potatos are the best food in the universe but give me a bag of Lays and i will be thankful
Odd that practically all our local swedish chips manufacturers fail at frying so bad compared to imported netherland lays

 

[crimson5pheonix]

Grain Chip Master Race fo' life!

 

[KyuubiNoKitsune-Hime]

It depends enormously on when. Sweeping the US currently (and for the past several years) is a wave of health-nut-ism, of a shallow and obnoxious kind. Upon realizing the increased risk of heart attacks posed by trans fats, many food vendors elected to stop using them, replacing the partially hydrogenated oils with vegetable ones that make fried foods taste awful. Eventually, public demand called for nearly everyone to abandon them, in the name of "health", much to the annoyance of those of us who didn't sleep through biology class. The FDA is even planning on (or may have already; it's really too depressing a situation to keep up with) revoking partially hydrogenated oils' GRS status (generally recognized as safe; essentially a requirement to be used in foodstuffs). If you're wondering why I dismiss this as "shallow and obnoxious", consider the following two facts:
1. The FDA has no problems with the GRS status of fully hydrogenated oils- those, as far as they're concerned, are perfectly fine.
2. These dietary changes have caused no drop in heart disease. The reason being, fried foods now taste awful, so (since most of them are salted), this is made for by adding boatloads more salt, turning, say, fries from "salted potatoes" into "potato-flavored salt". And you can guess what that big increase in sodium does for heart disease, which makes uninformed health nuts demand stronger action. It's a seemingly never ending spiral of stupid.

So, prior to... let's play it safe and say 2000, potato chips, all the way- they actually had real flavor back then. Nowadays, corn chips- they're bland by themselves, but a lot less offensive now.

Trans fat is allowed until 2018. Hydrogenated oils (Artificial) have been removed from the generally safe list.

Some fun facts:

1. Fully hydrogenated oil doesn't have trans fat. Trans fat is what makes partially hydrogenated oil particularly dangerous, which is why its been kicked (The artificial stuff, anyway) and hydrogenated oil is still allowed. Hydrogenated oil isn't exactly healthy, of course, but as far as I know, there's no avalanche of studies proving it affects our diets to the same degree as partially hydrogenated garbage.
2. Since trans fat is still in a lot of stuff, its kinda of unreasonable to start making generalized statements about how its removal from the food supply has had no affect. I'd also be massively interested if you have any studies or proof that salt intake has significantly been increased since Trans fat started getting a bad rap. Though...

http://www.nhlbi.nih.gov/files/docs/research/2012_ChartBook.pdf

The National Heart, Lung, and Blood Institute claims that a) deaths from heart disease have been declining for over 50 years and, more importantly, b) the prevalence of heart disease in general has reduced since 1999. Does this mean trans fat reduction in the food supply has resulted in healthier hearts? Not on its own, of course. But your assertions seem a bit... well, not true. Particularly the whole 'salts killing us faster then trans fat' thing.

The problem is that it's neither the salts, nor the trans fats, nor the hydrogenated oils, nor saturated fats. All that came from an unsubstantiated claim by one guy and the aim was to get people to stop eating meat entirely. Also replacing common hydrogenated oils and trans fats is canola oil... Fun fact on canola oil: There is no canola nut, or seed, it's all made from TOXIC rape seed, the oil has trace amounts of the toxin, and it's linked to causing heart lesions, a prime cause of heart attacks. So the "bad" oils they're phasing out are being replaced by an oil that's a far higher health risk.

OT: I have no opinion most any direction on this. I love grain chips like sun chips, I love corn chips(especially fritos), and I love potato chips, all with flavors, or plain, with dip, or by them selves. What I don't like is people who give me crap for eating an unhealthy snack, those people can go take a flying leap off a skyscraper.

 

[DefunctTheory]

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It depends enormously on when. Sweeping the US currently (and for the past several years) is a wave of health-nut-ism, of a shallow and obnoxious kind. Upon realizing the increased risk of heart attacks posed by trans fats, many food vendors elected to stop using them, replacing the partially hydrogenated oils with vegetable ones that make fried foods taste awful. Eventually, public demand called for nearly everyone to abandon them, in the name of "health", much to the annoyance of those of us who didn't sleep through biology class. The FDA is even planning on (or may have already; it's really too depressing a situation to keep up with) revoking partially hydrogenated oils' GRS status (generally recognized as safe; essentially a requirement to be used in foodstuffs). If you're wondering why I dismiss this as "shallow and obnoxious", consider the following two facts:
1. The FDA has no problems with the GRS status of fully hydrogenated oils- those, as far as they're concerned, are perfectly fine.
2. These dietary changes have caused no drop in heart disease. The reason being, fried foods now taste awful, so (since most of them are salted), this is made for by adding boatloads more salt, turning, say, fries from "salted potatoes" into "potato-flavored salt". And you can guess what that big increase in sodium does for heart disease, which makes uninformed health nuts demand stronger action. It's a seemingly never ending spiral of stupid.

So, prior to... let's play it safe and say 2000, potato chips, all the way- they actually had real flavor back then. Nowadays, corn chips- they're bland by themselves, but a lot less offensive now.

Trans fat is allowed until 2018. Hydrogenated oils (Artificial) have been removed from the generally safe list.

Some fun facts:

1. Fully hydrogenated oil doesn't have trans fat. Trans fat is what makes partially hydrogenated oil particularly dangerous, which is why its been kicked (The artificial stuff, anyway) and hydrogenated oil is still allowed. Hydrogenated oil isn't exactly healthy, of course, but as far as I know, there's no avalanche of studies proving it affects our diets to the same degree as partially hydrogenated garbage.
2. Since trans fat is still in a lot of stuff, its kinda of unreasonable to start making generalized statements about how its removal from the food supply has had no affect. I'd also be massively interested if you have any studies or proof that salt intake has significantly been increased since Trans fat started getting a bad rap. Though...

http://www.nhlbi.nih.gov/files/docs/research/2012_ChartBook.pdf

The National Heart, Lung, and Blood Institute claims that a) deaths from heart disease have been declining for over 50 years and, more importantly, b) the prevalence of heart disease in general has reduced since 1999. Does this mean trans fat reduction in the food supply has resulted in healthier hearts? Not on its own, of course. But your assertions seem a bit... well, not true. Particularly the whole 'salts killing us faster then trans fat' thing.

The problem is that it's neither the salts, nor the trans fats, nor the hydrogenated oils, nor saturated fats. All that came from an unsubstantiated claim by one guy and the aim was to get people to stop eating meat entirely. Also replacing common hydrogenated oils and trans fats is canola oil... Fun fact on canola oil: There is no canola nut, or seed, it's all made from TOXIC rape seed, the oil has trace amounts of the toxin, and it's linked to causing heart lesions, a prime cause of heart attacks. So the "bad" oils they're phasing out are being replaced by an oil that's a far higher health risk.

OT: I have no opinion most any direction on this. I love grain chips like sun chips, I love corn chips(especially fritos), and I love potato chips, all with flavors, or plain, with dip, or by them selves. What I don't like is people who give me crap for eating an unhealthy snack, those people can go take a flying leap off a skyscraper.

Can you provide any studies to prove the claim that canola oil is unsafe? While rapeseed (Who named that, I wonder) does contain toxins, all the sources I can find claim that canola oil lacks them, and in fact have numerous omega compounds that have been shown to increase heart health.

Snopes says it safe.

http://www.snopes.com/medical/toxins/canola.asp

The USDA even makes a distinction between safe canola oil, which comes from seeds breed to have extremely low erucic acid levels (The poison you refer to, but you couldn't be bothered to name) and unsafe canola oil, which is made from seeds they never bothered to breed erucic acid out of. The high level erucic acid oil is used as a cheap industrial lubricant, while the low erucic acid oil is used for consumption.

http://www.ers.usda.gov/topics/crops/soybeans-oil-crops/canola.aspx

So, I make the same exact claim to you that I did to Recusant (Who I don't blame for not replying, as he rarely logs in): Are you able to provide any proof that canola oil is dangerous? Do you have any studies that show that edible canola oil (The kind sold in stores) contains enough erucic acid to be harmful to a human being?

 

[KyuubiNoKitsune-Hime]

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Well this gives a good history, [http://draxe.com/canola-oil-gm/] along with plenty of reasons other than the erucic acid as to why LEAR/canola oil isn't all that good for you anyways.

But there have been basically no viable studies done on the longterm effects of low erucic acid rapeseed oil. However my dad and his brother come from a family with very low heart disease rates, they both tried to get healthy with canola oil. They both have heart lesions and other heart issues that developed during this time of consumption of products containing canola oil. On the other hand their other brother, who avoided canola oil like the plague because it's a GMO product, he has no heart or vascular issues at all. That's plenty enough evidence for me, and enough to make me worry because I had a lot of exposure like my father and uncle through my childhood.

 

[DefunctTheory]

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Well this gives a good history, [http://draxe.com/canola-oil-gm/] along with plenty of reasons other than the erucic acid as to why LEAR/canola oil isn't all that good for you anyways.

But there have been basically no viable studies done on the longterm effects of low erucic acid rapeseed oil. However my dad and his brother come from a family with very low heart disease rates, they both tried to get healthy with canola oil. They both have heart lesions and other heart issues that developed during this time of consumption of products containing canola oil. On the other hand their other brother, who avoided canola oil like the plague because it's a GMO product, he has no heart or vascular issues at all. That's plenty enough evidence for me, and enough to make me worry because I had a lot of exposure like my father and uncle through my childhood.

The link you gave says that modern canola oil does not have high enough levels of erucic acid to be unhealthy, and instead focuses entirely on the dangers of GMOs (Of which it provides zero evidence that GMO rapeseed is bad for you, instead providing disputed claims regarding corn and soy) and the fact that it may contain more partially hydrogenated oil then the label specifies (But it still has very, very low amounts of it).

As for your examples, they don't prove anything. One could easily say that your Dad and his brother had a reason to switch to healthier oil, but were too late, or that the other brother, paranoid of modern food as he is, has simply managed to stay away from decades of processed food, preserving his heart. Three examples, provided without context, scientific investigation, or documentation proves nothing.

 

[LetalisK]

The fuck is a corn chip? Fuck that noise.

Potatoes or go home. Go home and eat your scrubby corn chips.

Sorry, I just really like potato-based things.

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OT: Corn ships. Potato chips are all about the extra bullshit on them. Corn chips are all about the extra bullshit you put on them.

 

[chuckman1]

Overall I have to say potato chips, even though Doritos are the best chips ever.
And corn nachos are superior to all other chips.

 

[Parasondox]

Doritos is still my all time favourite corn crisps/chips and Pringles is my favourite potato crisps/chips. Yes I know Pringles are doing corn but I prefer the original.

Potato crisps/chips goes great with sandwiches as a side or in the sandwich itself and Corn is good for spicy meals and sauces. However potato is annoying when it's stuck in your teeth, damn you Walkers, and corn is easier to get out I believe but the after taste stays in your mouth longer than potato which can be yucky. Okay, maybe I am overthinking this.

I would go for... Potato. Corn, you would have to have at the right moment and be in the mood for it but potato, you can have it whenever.