Poll: Could Bioware actually pull off a good Warhammer 40k game?

[Lieju]

What, billions of humans dying by the millions against all odds, the best and brightest humanity has to offer being reduced to cannon fodder isn't "emotional" enough for you? Knowing that a species once on the apex of existence lost themselves to dark vices doesn't have "impact?"

Not if it's told through a Wiki-entry.
Texts like can be a part of the story (I enjoyed reading all the codex-entries in Dragon Age), and even whole stories can be told through nothing more than that, but there's a reason it's not common, and the stuff you quoted doesn't sound interesting or impactful on it's own. Maybe if it was told through a series of research documents or something.

Fine, you want WH40k on the individual level? Go read Ravenor, because clearly you need something more subjective and acute. Imagination seems too obtuse a tool in this case.

I can imagine bleak and depressing and 'dark' stuff myself.
Do you seriously expect me to give a shit about the world or anything based on one paragraph which basically says 'shit's fucked up'? You do know 'Show, don't tell' is one of the cornerstones of storytelling, right?

 

[teebeeohh]

honestly i think volition would make a great 40k game. just turn the stupid level down to saints row standarts and we are good to go

 

[spartandude]

What, billions of humans dying by the millions against all odds, the best and brightest humanity has to offer being reduced to cannon fodder isn't "emotional" enough for you? Knowing that a species once on the apex of existence lost themselves to dark vices doesn't have "impact?"

Not if it's told through a Wiki-entry.
Texts like can be a part of the story (I enjoyed reading all the codex-entries in Dragon Age), and even whole stories can be told through nothing more than that, but there's a reason it's not common, and the stuff you quoted doesn't sound interesting or impactful on it's own. Maybe if it was told through a series of research documents or something.

Fine, you want WH40k on the individual level? Go read Ravenor, because clearly you need something more subjective and acute. Imagination seems too obtuse a tool in this case.

I can imagine bleak and depressing and 'dark' stuff myself.
Do you seriously expect me to give a shit about the world or anything based on one paragraph which basically says 'shit's fucked up'? You do know 'Show, don't tell' is one of the cornerstones of storytelling, right?

yh then who recommends you a book to go read which would really help
however i say read Eisenhorn before Ravenor, i takes place before, introduces some characters which are in both series and is a little better imo (both are really good) or read the Horus Heresy series, start with Horus Rising, False Gods then Galaxy in flames (in that order) after that you can largely read most Horus Heresy books in any order although some quick research will tell you which books are best read early

 

[WindKnight]

Replace 'Shepard' with 'Inquistor, 'Reapers' with 'Chaos/Orks/Eldar/etc', add in a large helping of Grimdark and you've just turned Mass Effect into a decent 40K game.

If they would get Dan Abnett to write it, you'd have a (potentially) great 40k game.

I'd much Rather Sandy Mitchell. Especially if they can make it about Ciaphous Cain, which is probably the best way to make the universe work.

 

[jim1398]

Replace 'Shepard' with 'Inquistor, 'Reapers' with 'Chaos/Orks/Eldar/etc', add in a large helping of Grimdark and you've just turned Mass Effect into a decent 40K game.

If they would get Dan Abnett to write it, you'd have a (potentially) great 40k game.

I'd much Rather Sandy Mitchell. Especially if they can make it about Ciaphous Cain, which is probably the best way to make the universe work.

I still think Abnett would be the better choice in this specific situation due to the inquisitor aspect, which I think would work a lot better with Bioware's general game structure of a single character, normally part of a special organisation, travelling around the world/universe, gathering a group of characters together to fight a huge threat. Ciaphas Cain doesn't really fit into that structure, since he almost always just finds himself in the threatening situation, rather than actually seeks it out.

Any other developer, I'd be all for a Ciaphas Cain game written by Sandy Mitchell though.

 

[Adeptus Aspartem]

Nope. Warhammer is dying, GW is killing it with the 6th edition after the 5th rescued them from the desaster that was the 4th edition.

I'd rather see the franchise die at the moment, so Hasbro/WotC can pick it up to make it into something good.

 

[Jynthor]

Could BioWare actually pull off any good game?
The answer is: no.

 

[Gethsemani_v1legacy]

I can imagine bleak and depressing and 'dark' stuff myself.
Do you seriously expect me to give a shit about the world or anything based on one paragraph which basically says 'shit's fucked up'? You do know 'Show, don't tell' is one of the cornerstones of storytelling, right?

I'd really suggest you read the Eisenhorn-trilogy. As far as I am concerned they are the best work to come out of the 40k-franchise and are good enough to hold their own as novellas (which is more than you can say about much of what Black Library produces. Not only does the trilogy itself tell a compelling story about the rise and fall of its' protagonist but it also manages to showcase the bleak world that is the Imperium without taking too much focus off the central plot or becoming unintentionally parody "grimdark".

Eisenhorn is also a bit different (just like Ravenor) because it doesn't really focus on the constant war aspect of the 40k universe, but sticks to taking place behind the frontlines and showcasing the civil parts of the Imperium.

 

[Elijin]

Anyone who thinks the WH40K universe is humourless just hasnt read the right books.

Read the Ciaphas Cain books. He's a Hero of the Imperium, and the books are written in the form of his memoirs. The running joke is that he finds the general zeal of the Imperium to be ridiculous, and toes the line between maintaining appearances and actively attempting to avoid any real danger or responsibility. His heroic actions are essentially motivated by him trying to keep his own hide intact. They embrace the lore while also taking the piss out of it every step of the way.

 

[kannibus]

Actually I think I want to see another Dawn of War. C'mon, that was an awesome series! Need to see a few more missions with the Blood Ravens and their brigade of madness!

Although, I wonder what'd happen if we got Force Commander Shepard...