Poll: Could you stay with someone who hates what you're passionate for?

Recommended Videos

Dwarfman

New member
Oct 11, 2009
918
0
0
Riki Darnell said:
Probably the last person to weigh in on this having never had a relationship. But you and your other half seem to share a lot of things in common aside from your listed passions. Personally I'd look to those things and strengthen your relationship that way. In the mean time I'm sure you have plenty of friends and colleagues out there who share these interests with you. Unless the guys abusive or something and doesn't let you do that to which case get the hell out of there right now!

Just remember no two person is the same. No matter how perfect someone is or seems to be, there will still be something about them that will always be in conflict with who you are as a person body and soul. What makes a relationship is how you work through these disagreements.
 

lumenadducere

New member
May 19, 2008
593
0
0
As a few others have said, it's not a big deal if he isn't into your same passions as long as you've got other things in common. What is a big issue, though, is how he's expressing it. If you're feeling disrespected or put down then that needs to be made known so he can adjust his behavior. Ideally he'd realize that they're important to you and appreciate that you're into them even if he has no interest in it. But what he's doing now where he's just being outright dismissive and insulting isn't good, healthy, or mature.
 

Iron Lightning

Lightweight Extreme
Oct 19, 2009
1,237
0
0
Riki Darnell said:
So, the guy I'm with (for about 2 years) is pretty much my idea for the perfect guy. We share the same dark humor and enjoy playing lots of video games together. We match pretty well not on just small stuff but on deeper levels, too. But, one thing has always bothered me...I can't talk to him about what I'm passionate about. Two things I LOVE talking about is Existentialism and Space related science. I'm always watching the History or Science channel and buying new books on the subjects. If I bring any of that stuff up around him or ask him any "what if" questions he just gets annoyed. If we start talking about it, it ends up into more of an argument with him saying all that stuff is stupid and irrelevant, because it's not helping society in any way and just tells me I'm wrong and dismisses me. I'm not upset that he doesn't like it, I'm upset because I feel disrespected. When he tells me stories from work or something he read online, even if I don't care what it's about, I still listen to him and don't just go "that's dumb" and walk off.
:O I also want you to marry me. Choose me, I've got more posts than that other bastard: Averant :mad:

More on topic: It sounds like this fine gentleman is not only uninterested in your passions but seems to actively detest them. It's one thing if he were to be uninterested in philosophy and space science but still respectful of your true passions. However, it's quite another thing if he hates those passions. If you get into a long term relationship with him he seems fairly likely to discourage you from following your passions since he sees them as highly impractical. He seems like a very mature man and if you're like me then there's nothing you despise more than ultra-pragmatism as this eccentric individual quite well explains:


I could never go with a person who hates my deepest passions as anything longer than a weekend fling. I'm an extremely passionate individual and I could never tolerate living with someone who hates the purpose that I have chosen for my life.
 

Aprilgold

New member
Apr 1, 2011
1,995
0
0
Nope since they would be the ultimate hypocrite. Can't be yelling "God Hates Fags" when your a fag as well. I don't define love by how much someone hates each other or hates the others interests.
 

Rawne1980

New member
Jul 29, 2011
4,144
0
0
I love comedy and gaming, my wife hates both (she's a horror kinda lass and never really got into the whole gaming thing).

We've been together for 9 years.

She doesn't stop me from watching my funnies or sitting at my PC/PS3 for hours as it gives her time to watch her soaps and other things she watches (for the record I hate soaps with a passion).

So it's kinda like she does her thing, I do mine and the world is happy.
 

LetalisK

New member
May 5, 2010
2,769
0
0
Riki Darnell said:
So, the guy I'm with (for about 2 years) is pretty much my idea for the perfect guy. We share the same dark humor and enjoy playing lots of video games together. We match pretty well not on just small stuff but on deeper levels, too. But, one thing has always bothered me...I can't talk to him about what I'm passionate about. Two things I LOVE talking about is Existentialism and Space related science. I'm always watching the History or Science channel and buying new books on the subjects. If I bring any of that stuff up around him or ask him any "what if" questions he just gets annoyed. If we start talking about it, it ends up into more of an argument with him saying all that stuff is stupid and irrelevant, because it's not helping society in any way and just tells me I'm wrong and dismisses me. I'm not upset that he doesn't like it, I'm upset because I feel disrespected. When he tells me stories from work or something he read online, even if I don't care what it's about, I still listen to him and don't just go "that's dumb" and walk off.

So if you really loved sports, art, working out, etc., and your partner hated it and didn't want to hear or talk about it could you stay in that relationship long term?

(I didn't add a "maybe" because I wanted this to be a strictly yes or no answer. I didn't want anyone going "depends on what it is" cuase I'm saying, imagine something MAJOR in your life you couldn't share or talk about with your partner)
Ugh, the last two pages of this thread have made me want to vomit. Newsflash: you aren't going to agree with everything with your partner. My wife is super into astrology. I think it's bullshit. I'm really into gaming. She's passively into gaming, mostly casual gaming, but really more into...beading and scrapbooking. She's conservative. I'm liberal. We're both fucking adults! We understand that we will have disagreements and we live with it. In fact, probably look forward to disagreements. Usually leads to sex. Don't ask me how. Point is, even though we have these disagreements, I wouldn't leave my wife for anyone in the world. Ever. Disagreements are a part of this world.
 

UrieHusky

New member
Sep 16, 2011
260
0
0
Sure, but what's the point? if I can't share my passion with my partner its not the end of the world but I'd much rather be with someone that I could talk to about my interests openly and exchange opinions etc rather than it being one sided.

So I say no, even though I could (and have) it's not worth it in my opinion
 

Phasmal

Sailor Jupiter Woman
Jun 10, 2011
3,676
0
0
My boyfriend used to worry about this, too.
We have loads in common, but we also have loads of things we disagree on.

(For example, I hate Halo, he loves it... thats just a minor example though).

But as I always say to him, I like going out with someone who occasionally challenges me, if I was going out with someone who always agreed with me all the time I would get bored. I don't want to date myself, I want to date him.

You shouldn't stop talking about stuff you like, but what I generally do is compromise. We spend time talking about what the other wants to talk about, then swap.
Just tell him it annoys you when he dismisses what you wanna talk about.
 

MasochisticAvenger

New member
Nov 7, 2011
331
0
0
The question you need to ask yourself is whether or not the fact you cannot talk about these topics to him is a dealbreaker. If it is, you should end the relationship as soon as possible. Trust me, you're not doing anyone any favours by staying with someone you don't want to be with.

Also, don't worry about the time you wasted. It wasn't a waste, because you will hopefully learn from the experience so you can grow and develop as a person. Remember, nothing is a waste as long as you can learn from it.
 

PureChaos

New member
Aug 16, 2008
4,990
0
0
then find something else to talk about and talk about the science 'what if' stuff with someone who does have an interest in it and will be able to give you the debate you want.

if he doesn't like it then that's fine, if he was trying to prevent you from taking part in it because he doesn't like it then there would be a problem. it would probably be a good thing to have an interest your partner isn't part of, something that's yours alone
 

Xannidel

New member
Feb 16, 2011
352
0
0
Because I always believe things can work out, I say it can work. However, if he is going to be immature and just dismiss your conversations just because he dislikes the topic then you need to really sit down and try to talk to him about this and explain that you are concerned that he does not seem to respect your opinion (or you can include other things as well).

Love and relationships are going to have bumps and sometimes they are going to require you and your better half to take time to pause down that road to fix anything that either you or he/she have against you. That is what a relationship is to me, opening up and talking things out so you and he/she can have an easier time communicating.

captcha quote: "have an inkling"
Oh Escapist, you so crazy.
 

krellen

Unrepentant Obsidian Fanboy
Jan 23, 2009
224
0
0
Rawne1980 said:
I love comedy and gaming, my wife hates both (she's a horror kinda lass and never really got into the whole gaming thing).

We've been together for 9 years.
Does she make fun of you and call you names because you like comedy and gaming? Because "not liking what I like" and "hating the very concept of what I like" are very different things.
 

Sehnsucht Engel

New member
Apr 18, 2009
1,890
0
0
Riki Darnell said:
So, the guy I'm with (for about 2 years) is pretty much my idea for the perfect guy. We share the same dark humor and enjoy playing lots of video games together. We match pretty well not on just small stuff but on deeper levels, too. But, one thing has always bothered me...I can't talk to him about what I'm passionate about. Two things I LOVE talking about is Existentialism and Space related science. I'm always watching the History or Science channel and buying new books on the subjects. If I bring any of that stuff up around him or ask him any "what if" questions he just gets annoyed. If we start talking about it, it ends up into more of an argument with him saying all that stuff is stupid and irrelevant, because it's not helping society in any way and just tells me I'm wrong and dismisses me. I'm not upset that he doesn't like it, I'm upset because I feel disrespected. When he tells me stories from work or something he read online, even if I don't care what it's about, I still listen to him and don't just go "that's dumb" and walk off.

So if you really loved sports, art, working out, etc., and your partner hated it and didn't want to hear or talk about it could you stay in that relationship long term?

(I didn't add a "maybe" because I wanted this to be a strictly yes or no answer. I didn't want anyone going "depends on what it is" cuase I'm saying, imagine something MAJOR in your life you couldn't share or talk about with your partner)
No way in hell. I love being creative, in a lot of different ways, drawing, making movies, photography and writing. If the girl I was with hated that and stated that it was stupid... I'd tell her to fuck off, most likely.

If she wasn't interested in talking about it, but we still got along and had a lot of things in common then i wouldn't mind. I could find others to talk about it with. I agree that you're being disrespected, if that's the way he expresses himself.
 

Zeema

The Furry Gamer
Jun 29, 2010
4,580
0
0
i dont expect someone to like all the things i like and passionate for

but if they hated 95% of it then im not sure
 

Devil'sAdvocate

New member
Jun 3, 2011
31
0
0
Having similar interests is an important foundation for a relationship, after a while the passionate love becomes more sporadic at times and so it is important to have a strong friendship to fall back on.

The exchange of knowledge and passion will keep a relationship 'interesting' and 'worthwhile. Perhaps these terms seem flaccid and superficial ("I will only maintain a relationship if I get something out of it"), but ultimately, companionship functions better if both party's benefit from its dynamic; a simple truth.

Thus, Enjoying similar things is great. But symmetry is complemented by symbiosis.

My partner is incredibly passionate about immigration-related issues; Something I know little about. Over the years, I have come to appreciate the topic, and more importantly, have become more knowledgeable on the subject, simply by listening to her. A cheap and effective education; never a waist. Sometimes it bores the shit out of me though... but that's love; you put up with it to make the other person happy.

I really enjoy cringe-comedy stand-up performance, on which I am writing my Master's thesis. My partner HATES the feeling she gets from cringe-worthy moments (she hides in the closet
-LITERALLY- every five minutes while I'm watching "the office", or "peep-show" etc) but, she endures. Just so we can talk, and learn from one another. Gaining an insight into another human being is one of the greatest perks of a long lasting relationship.

However, have you considered the possibility that you might approach your 'guy', with regard to existential debate, in the wrong way? When trying to get someone interested in something you like, taking the approach from one's own perspective is no road to success. You'll have to empathise with HIM, and connect your interest to something he already likes. I enjoy a good philosophical debate as much as the next man and will admit that these can be rather 'aggressive' at times; its the nature of the sport to joust with you opponent. I learned this can be very intimidating to others, who do not share this hobby.

If it turns out that there is nothing you can do about his lack of interest in your passion, conciser whether this passion is more important than the relationship you have with your 'guy'. Is the answer yes, part ways, if no, then love him for who he is. This is essentially what you are asking of him; to love you for who you are, including your lust for the contemplation of the self and the universe you live in. But if he can't, or just won't, and you can't except that of him, then it would be hypocritical (and thus not serving to your best interest) to leave him; provided this particular 'lack' in compatibility is the ONLY reason you would want to.

1)Does he listen to you? Surprise you every so often? Think about you when you're not there? Laugh with you? Care about what you want/need sometimes?

2) Does he punch you every time you quote Hegel?

If yes to 1) and 'no' to 2); then you've struck gold in relationship terms as far as I'm concerned. If not, there's plenty of good men left in the world. And you could always try lesbianism, they seem to have a knack for existentialism.

* whether it is entirely immoral to punch those who quote Hegel remains ambiguous... but that's a different story.
 

Amethyst Wind

New member
Apr 1, 2009
3,188
0
0
I dunno about the rest of you guys but I never really thought the issue was that Riki's fella didn't have the same interesst, rather just how negatively he reacts to her interests.

Not wanting to talk about them is one thing, belittling and devaluing them is another.
 

Rawne1980

New member
Jul 29, 2011
4,144
0
0
krellen said:
Rawne1980 said:
I love comedy and gaming, my wife hates both (she's a horror kinda lass and never really got into the whole gaming thing).

We've been together for 9 years.
Does she make fun of you and call you names because you like comedy and gaming? Because "not liking what I like" and "hating the very concept of what I like" are very different things.
I think you're getting "hating what someone likes" and being a moron mixed up.

She detests gaming and doesn't understand how it can be fun but we're both in our 30's so mocking doesn't come into it.

There is a world of difference between hating something and taking the piss out of someone because of it.

For instance, I hate rap music but i'm mature enough to not abuse someone who does. Apart from the time a friend tried to put a CD on in my car and I threw it out of the window. I don't mind people listening to it but not in my bloody car.

So yeah, my wife hates gaming and comedy but she is mature enough to not act like a 14 year old when i'm in the middle of shooting things in the face.