Poll: Counterstrike Source update goes live. Anyone got opinions?

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Sikachu

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The controversial CS:S update finally hit yesterday and I wanted to gauge your reaction. I've only played it for half an hour or so, and like the stereotypical cs player, I HATE CHANGE. Here [http://store.steampowered.com/news/3976/]'s a list of all the changes.

While I understand that many people like achievements, I find them really annoying. Pointless stats for the gamer equivalent of jocks that we can then all use to compare our e-peens! Great! I also really dislike the new scoreboard. On the old one, you could see everything you wanted to see, and it was crystal clear what was going on. The new one has changed the arrangement of the teams (so that means learning a new convention for quick checking) and added moronic avatar power so that people can annoy me with their pretentious or stupid profile pictures in yet another place. A place where they have no value, and hinder the clarity and ease-of-use of something that is best kept simple. Good job. MVP, 'interesting fact', domination, and death-cam bullshit I can take or leave, it seems a bit juvenile, but at least it doesn't really interfere with the game. Lifetime stats good, but I imagine there are more than a few players dreading being able to find out that kind of information eventually. Changing the patterns of the spray of the guns to a much more randomised version (though I'm sure with hundreds more hours we'll learn some patterns) is incredibly annoying and frustrating, though I guess what it takes away in the 'how to spray' skill set, it adds in emphasising first shot accuracy.

What you won't find in the release notes are references to a weird skating effects where character movement seem a bit like they're running on oil, weird mouse tracking that at best has just screwed up sensitivity settings, or several problems such as disappearing walls, invisible enemies, and constant wrong tracking as spectator.

Really though, I just have one question that Valve probably won't answer; if 6 years after it came out, your game is still the #1 played FPS on the internet, WHY THE FUCK WOULD YOU START MAKING MASSIVE GAMEPLAY CHANGES THAT AREN'T OPTIONAL?

Anyway, I'm pretty sure you've worked out my opinion, what's yours and why?
 

Riobux

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My initial response when I was playing it was "so what?". They didn't exactly add anything significant that didn't just function as a cosmetic change. There's no new guns, no new game-play modes and nothing here to gawk at game-play wise. It's all the same to me. So I can't help but wonder why I should care about this update.
 

Gladion

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At least you acknowledge the fact you're a stereotypical cs player (whiny about the smalles things), the next step would be trying to do something against that.

Still, I voted that I don't like the update because it somehow turned my version of the game into the low-violence version (steam forums tell me this is a bug that many users have encountered). It is very irritating to see the enemies surrender to you when you shoot them instead of dying.

But CS is shit anyways, I played it yesterday for about half an hour until I remembered why I quit playing years ago, so who cares? :)
 

Sikachu

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Gladion said:
At least you acknowledge the fact you're a stereotypical cs player (whiny about the smalles things), the next step would be trying to do something against that.

Still, I voted that I don't like the update because it somehow turned my version of the game into the low-violence version (steam forums tell me this is a bug that many users have encountered). It is very irritating to see the enemies surrender to you when you shoot them instead of dying.

But CS is shit anyways, I played it yesterday for about half an hour until I remembered why I quit playing years ago, so who cares? :)
Haha you're right, it's just that when you've done something over and over for several hundred hours, acquiring an instinctive notion of the spray patterns, as well as hundreds of other tiny habits that have been repeated so many times you never think about them any more, someone deciding that 6 years later they should invalidate some of the skill-set you've built up is very frustrating. Unless this proves easier to adjust to than the first few minutes suggests, I think I may well follow you out of the door marked 'Exit'.
 

teqrevisited

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The update's nice but of course there's a hell of a lot of bugs. Zombie mod is broken for now and the maps that were made for it are riddled with graphic and physics glitches. Once the issues have been dealt with, though, I think it'll be worth it.

Hitboxes seem a bit better too but as CSS was and is it's hard to tell. At least today I've not seen someone get shot in the foot & recieve a headshot instead. Yet...
 

Penguinness

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It was a great game, years ago... but I can't play it forever. I doubt these changes will put me back into it.

Achievements aren't for e-peen because I don't know anyone who compares them. They are a bit more like milestones that could probably keep people interested a little or make them think they've achieved something. To be honest most long time players (myself included) could probably say they've technically unlocked all these in the past anyway.

I'll have to go see what the other changes are, probably not much. OP mentioned a change in the scoreboard.. it could be better now since teams of over 10 couldn't fit on all the scores.

Edit: Yeah the scoreboard is nice. Sprays have changed a bit but since I haven't played in a while I'd have to slowly warm up to the game anyway. The stars, now they're the e-peen factor, not the achievements.. but they're alright.
 

DazZ.

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I got used to it awhile ago, it took around a week into the beta for me to start liking it, then I couldn't go back to how it was before.

I'm happy with the changes, only once have I seen people farming achievements and I haven't heard talk of K:D ratios.

But the moment people start not playing properly and not working as a team for a ratio or achievements is the time I hate it.
 

Kajt

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Well, it resurrected my interest in CS:S, so it gets my seal of approval.
 

Shockolate

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I can't go into a server without someone bitching about how fucked up the game is.

It's exactly the same to me. Except with achievements, and dominations.

And I love it.
 

Stoic raptor

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I like it.
I really love the scoreboard, it makes things so much easier.
The guns seem to be slightly modified, but that is debatable
My only problem is the lag and other bugs(One of my teammates looked like a terrorist when he was a counter-terrorist)
And I really dont like the death animation in that its not a death, its a surrender.
Its seems to be good overall.
 

LightOfDarkness

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Shockolate said:
I can't go into a server without someone bitching about how fucked up the game is.

It's exactly the same to me. Except with achievements, and dominations.

And I love it.
Dominating those bitchers always gives me a fuzzy feeling inside :3

I LOVE IT, although I could do without the low violence. I WANT MY GODDAMN RAGDOLLS DAMMIT!