Poll: Daniel Tosh threatens Woman with Gang Rape

[CD-R]

Yeah that's noting Bill Burr told an entire city they should be gangraped among other things. I don't see anyone saying he should lose his career.

 

[RagTagBand]

Biased OP is Biased.

Everything is acceptable to joke about and rape is not even the "worst" subject. As long as you're not raping anyone, or telling others to rape other people, you can pretty much joke about what you like.

 

[DJ_DEnM]

He DID personally apologize after, saying that there are many awful things to make jokes about.

 

[Laser Priest]

He's an idiot and has never been funny. He tries being "dark" instead and ends up making himself look like more of an idiot.

And this twat has a television show.

Yes, offensive humor can be funny. However, Tosh can't.

Just curious, would you go to a comedy show with him headlining? And if you did, would you get offended by a joke after you heckle him?

Why would I go to a comedy show for someone I don't think is funny? This situation is ridiculous.

And I wouldn't be offended, nor would I heckle him. Nor when I listen to him, because he is a comedian who isn't funny.

 

[AlmostLikeLife]

I can't stand people like this.

I don't mean Daniel Tosh. The guy is one of my favorite comedians. Saw him live last year, loved it.

I mean that lady that took it upon herself to play hero. Stand up in the middle of an act at a comedy club, obviously just wanting to draw attention to herself. "Look at how much I care about this hot-button issue, everyone!" I'm willing to bet she was all over the Kony 2012 stuff, too.

If she knew anything about Tosh's style of comedy, which you think would be common sense because she was at one of his shows, she would know that jokes about rape, racism, abortion, sexism, and all kinds of other "offensive" stuff were going to be made and made often.

Everybody at any comedy show ever should know that they are there to watch someone perform. They aren't there to try and make themselves popular by heckling or shouting something out.

Now, I'll agree that Tosh's handling of the situation was not the right way to go about it. Just tell her to be quiet and move on. If she persists, have her escorted from the club.


Oh, and nice topic title and poll options. Doesn't make you look biased at all, TS. Cracking a joke, no matter how bad of taste it's in, is not threatening someone.

 

[Korne]

He's an idiot and has never been funny. He tries being "dark" instead and ends up making himself look like more of an idiot.

And this twat has a television show.

Yes, offensive humor can be funny. However, Tosh can't.

Just curious, would you go to a comedy show with him headlining? And if you did, would you get offended by a joke after you heckle him?

Why would I go to a comedy show for someone I don't think is funny? This situation is ridiculous.

And I wouldn't be offended, nor would I heckle him. Nor when I listen to him, because he is a comedian who isn't funny.

Exactly, I don't find a lot of comedians funny. I do find many of them offensive. That doesn't mean I want to bring others down who like them. My parents love this christian friendly comedy shows that I find disgusting, yet i'm glad they have found something to help them laugh. It is healthy and good for you.

 

[Guy Mann]

Rape isn't funny. Rape jokes *can* be funny. The reason people cry "free speech" in these debates is because if you start crossing out one subject, it won't be long until we begin to take every other subject out of the equation too. It may not be true, but it sets a precedent. This kind of thing snowballs. And finding a rape joke funny does not instantly equate to supporting rape. Comedy is always intended to offend, to varying degrees of success.

This wasn't a threat of rape. It was a bad joke. That's all. Daniel Tosh is not a cult leader, sicking his minions of rapist fans onto the women of the world to have sex with them against their will. He's a comedian of questionable skill, who made a silly (not in the good way) remark to a woman who heckled him during his show.

She didn't "deserve" Tosh's response, but you don't step on your morality pedestal (no matter how correct you may or may not be) during a comedy show without expecting to be insulted in return. This is sort of an widely-known unwritten rule. If he made this remark to me or my girlfriend, I'd want to punch him in the face, definitely. But I'd also understand that I was stepping into his arena and I broke the rules accordingly.

 

[xplosive59]

What was that lady expecting when you go and see a comedian who does dark comedy? She is an idiot, if you are offended by dark humor then why the hell would you go?! I hate people like this.

No joke is offensive to me, heck I've made jokes that make rape jokes look tame! ANY SUBJECT CAN BE FUNNY IF DONE RIGHT!

 

[Wintermoot]

never really liked him in the first place

 

[Cheesepower5]

Why is there no "yes" option? She should have kept her mouth shut and realized she was at a COMEDY club where offensive jokes are the norm. I don't blame him one bit for taking down a heckler. Also, as someone said above me, Tosh's humor is very dark.

So you would honestly say if someone made a joke about a serious problem that effects you at a comedy club You'd be like "Ah well, that's humour". We don't know anything about this woman. hat if at some point in her life she had been raped or threatened with rape? Dark humour is not making jokes about how rape is funny, or even how murder is funny. His style is NOT dark humour, it's just plain offensive. Dark Humour requires a certain level of refinement and tends to be self depracating, reffering to a specific event and whilst pressing the borderline of shocking and/or offensive, but never steps the mark. Tosh is an asshole, he sets out to offend people because people with a simple sense of humour choose to take it as dark.

There's a difference between heckling and standing up for a problem that effects you as something that shouldn't be joked about. She had every right to be stand up and tell him he was wrong.

If you go to a comedy club and see a person who is known for his offensive humor then yeah you say ah well or you leave, you dont be an asshole and shout back at him for hurting your litte thin skinned feelings. It is really just that simple.

Just like you dont go see Lisa Lapaneli (SP) if you happen to be homosexual, hell I hate her comedy and find her repulsive, but I will defend her right to say that shit because I am not thinned skin and know there are people who enjoy her work, and above all they are just jokes.

If you go to a comedy club and see someone known for their offensive humour there's usually someone else on the bill. That's how comedy clubs work. More than one person performs. So you're a firm believer in the whole "Sticks and Stones" bullshit.
Btw, Bad idea to bring Lisa Lapaneli in as a method of defending your argument, I'm bi and MASSIVELY against her revolting brand of shit. People who do offensive humour are one of the main reasons for intolerance in the wider scale of things, when it's done for "Comedy" It's apparently less bad than any other circumstance. It's not. For example (Because we all like talking about LL so much) why is it that if a woman on the street screams homophobic abuse it's wrong, but if she says the exact same things in a comedy club it's ok, and even gets laughs? Freedom of speech is a bullshit argument to bring up in these situations, because their freedom of speech silences others through promoting intolerance and hate. It only goes so far. Thin skinned feelings? Okay, hows about you walk up to a rape victim and do five minutes of stand up on why it's her own fault and it's so damned funny? I guess if she cries she's just thinned skinned. They are NOT just jokes. That's like saying the N word is just something to describe black people with. This sort of offensive humour goes out of it's way to upset people, for every one person who finds it hysterical, there's another that finds it deeply upsetting. Don't you dare put it down as those people are just thinned skinned. It ultimatly only serves to make you look like a jerk.

a very well thought out and insightful post, thank you for that! One thing I would like to address first.

It ultimatly only serves to make you look like a jerk.

Ultimately I am an insensitive jerk, I have an admittedly hard time empathizing with others. I suppose it could be a failing on my part, but its just how I am.

Now, onto your earlier points!

I did not know that, the comedy club in my town books one person per show, pay for the ticket go in, listen to the show then mingle and talk with others after the show.

Yes I am a believer in "Sticks and Stones" and I wouldn't say it is bullshit, at least from my perspective, people have insulted me plenty, I just laugh at them.

I agreed before your post that LL is a disgusting foul creature, but that doesnt mean I dont think she should say her piece, And the reason that she is laughed at and considered comedic while the crazy woman on the street corner is crazy (but also laughed at most likely) is because hers is a joke, its not like she goes from yelling about "dem fags" and goes straight to a WBC rally to protest gay marrages and the like, she is very friendly with homosexual folk.

As for the five minute tirade, as I said the only rape victim I have known was my close friends ex-wife and she made more crude rape related jokes than I even knew before I met her, and she loved Daniel Tosh's work.

And the "for one person who enjoys it one person is hurt buy it" argument is false, because that can be applied to damn near every medium from games to movies to music to comedians.

Hope you enjoy reading my post as much as I enjoyed yours, though next time consider paragraphing, it makes things much easier to read!

Well your arrogant response teaches me one thing: I have absoulutley no reason to value your opinions and nor does anyone else. Toodles.

Holy shit that was hypocritical. That's the most arrogant post I've seen since last night.... which is sad. That's a lot of arrogance.

 

[everythingbeeps]

Well Daniel Tosh's main category of comedy is dark humor. Sometimes it delves into incredibly dark areas. Being offended at what he does is like being offended at Lisa Lampanelli for calling any man that looks even slightly effeminate a ******.

Its just what they do.

It's what they do when they're incapable of telling real jokes.

It doesn't offend me, it just makes me roll my eyes.

Too many comedians nowadays are resorting to those kinds of shocking statements in order to get a response. It's laziness. It's much easier to say "oh rape is funny" than it is to actually put some thought into your humor.

Since when are you the damn comedy king?

There are many genres of comedy, all of them are real.

I don't like anti-humor, but at least I am not calling it "fake humor." Dark humor is almost as complex as Anti-humor.

So what, you seriously want Family guy/Simpsons "normal" humor?

Dark Humor has been around for centuries, and is a well established genre. Its a niche form of comedy because it always deals with human suffering in one form or another. Often it requires you to detach yourself from normal reality like Absurdism requires that you do.

Next time, don't start calling entire established genres "fake humor." Don't like it? Then go the fuck away.

Fake humor. It's fake humor. It's ironic that you'll defend a non-comedian's right to tell not-jokes, but you lose your shit when people say that shit isn't funny.

Rape jokes are not "complex", and if you think so, that says more about the workings of your mind than about the "humor" itself.

Jokes like that are the opposite of complex, and they usually appeal to people who are incapable of complex thought.

 

[SomebodyNowhere]

I'm not terribly fond of his sense of humor, but I know enough about his comedic style to not be all that surprised by such a statement

 

[Ninjamedic]

I'm surprised no one has brought this up:

 

[RatRace123]

Yeah, I'm not seeing a story here. I'm seeing a comedian making fun of a heckler, someone who felt the need to interrupt the show just because they were personally offended. The only big thing about this story is that we're seeing it from the Heckler's point of view.
And I do believe that everything in comedy is fair game; whether or not certain comedians have the skill to tell certain jokes is a different story, but I believe they should be able to. And when you're at a comedy club, I think you should be prepared to be offended since a lot of comedians tell jokes that are of an offensive nature; it's to be expected.

 

[Carrots_macduff]

if she didnt like the jokes she could have just left and that would have been the end of it.
if you have the nerve to address someone while they are trying to perform, i hope you're ready to get torn to pieces. in the words of george carlin, anytime you enter a theatre you should be completely open to any experience, if not, keep your mouth shut and get the fuck out

 

[Thrashgrinder]

This thread is fun. People yelling "not acceptable" and "it's a joke, relax" left and right.

A person said something bad to a person. The person saying the bad thing is geting paid to say awful things to people. What's the big deal?