Poll: Daniel Tosh threatens Woman with Gang Rape

[puncturedrectum]

Of course rape, like everything,can be joked about, you just have to do it right. Although, according to the articles pertaining to this incident, Daniel Tosh did the right thing but executed it terribly. Don't get me wrong, I hate this stupid douchebag with a passion stronger than my heroin addiction, but this goddamn woman, regardless of how offended she was or how offensive Tosh's (GODDAMN what a stupid fucking name!) reply was, fucking interrupted his set, when you do that you don't come at him with something lame like ?Actually, rape jokes are never funny!?. You're just asking to be insulted (poorly if you're at a Daniel Tosh show)with such a grandma interruption, you have to be prepared to put that micro-phallus in his fucking place with a heckle of such magnitude, such uninhibited hilarity that any agent in the crowd, his brain hungry for blow, would be forced to offer you an HBO special, effectively destroying Tosh's reputation.

In short, rape,as the late, great George Carlin said (and who the fuck do you think you are to claim that you know more about comedy than George Carlin?) can be funny with a certain amount of skill, fuck Daniel Tosh, fuck that goddamn heckler, and fuck Daniel Tosh. In length, however, fuck the person who started this thread. Not because of your opinion on the matter not even for how biased your original post was, but rather for your poll. Every option was the same differing only in severity, not in a funny way, but a very preachy way. Which shows that you don't give a third of a shit about discussion on the topic, only to get other people exposed to your anger towards one party without fully exploring the actions of all involved. So, fuck you Mr./Ms. Bastard/*****, fuck you in your self righteous asshole.

 

[ThegodisAbraxas]

Your post is ridiculous, you obviously just like to argue. Let me ask you something. Do you think he was joking? Or not? Come on. If he had threatened her with rape then it would be different. He didn't. Tosh said he was joking. Even the club owner Jamie Masada, who I have a great deal of respect for and have had the honor of shaking hands with at the Laugh Factory, was sitting in the audience. He says Tosh was joking. You honestly think that laws should be put in place to prevent certain jokes so people's feelings won't get hurt?

First of all, that would require an amendment to the constitution. Which would require a lobbyist group to make appeals to a senator, who would have to write up a bill explaining why certain types of jokes are OK and which are not OK. Then, it would have to be important enough to be brought up by the Speaker of the House. NONE OF THAT WOULD EVER HAPPEN YOU FUCK.

And by the way, when a "social reaction"(what a wordsmith you are), consists of uneducated mongrels like yourself calling for unnecessary and dangerous laws to be written about which type of humor is socially acceptable, then actually that does pose somewhat of a threat to free speech. Smart-ass.

Oh, and just so you know, the ONLY reason Tosh has apologized (via twitter, how sincere) is political. This feminist group has him by the balls right now. It was the same when Tracy Morgan made that comment about fags (he might have been talking about you, I don't know), he ended up 'donating' millions of dollars to that LGBT organization.

And also this has actually already happened, Opie n Anthony made a joke about raping Condi Rice a couple years back, and of course there was a huge public outcry. The best thing to come out of it was the late Patrice O'Neal's response. I have included a link to the video of him explaining to a Fox News panel why comedians need to be considered the authority on humor, and left to do what they do best. Shit is pretty funny I swear lol.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fjIuPSuYSOY
peace

 

[hensethe1]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b4hNaFkbZYU

Louis CK again. He knows how to do rape jokes

 

[chinangel]

eh...i laughed at spooning with spoony...

 

[SadakoMoose]

Your post is ridiculous, you obviously just like to argue. Let me ask you something. Do you think he was joking? Or not? Come on. If he had threatened her with rape then it would be different. He didn't. Tosh said he was joking. Even the club owner Jamie Masada, who I have a great deal of respect for and have had the honor of shaking hands with at the Laugh Factory, was sitting in the audience. He says Tosh was joking. You honestly think that laws should be put in place to prevent certain jokes so people's feelings won't get hurt?

First of all, that would require an amendment to the constitution. Which would require a lobbyist group to make appeals to a senator, who would have to write up a bill explaining why certain types of jokes are OK and which are not OK. Then, it would have to be important enough to be brought up by the Speaker of the House. NONE OF THAT WOULD EVER HAPPEN YOU FUCK.

And by the way, when a "social reaction"(what a wordsmith you are), consists of uneducated mongrels like yourself calling for unnecessary and dangerous laws to be written about which type of humor is socially acceptable, then actually that does pose somewhat of a threat to free speech. Smart-ass.

Oh, and just so you know, the ONLY reason Tosh has apologized (via twitter, how sincere) is political. This feminist group has him by the balls right now. It was the same when Tracy Morgan made that comment about fags (he might have been talking about you, I don't know), he ended up 'donating' millions of dollars to that LGBT organization.

And also this has actually already happened, Opie n Anthony made a joke about raping Condi Rice a couple years back, and of course there was a huge public outcry. The best thing to come out of it was the late Patrice O'Neal's response. I have included a link to the video of him explaining to a Fox News panel why comedians need to be considered the authority on humor, and left to do what they do best. Shit is pretty funny I swear lol.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fjIuPSuYSOY
peace

Peace?
I prefer war, thanks.
And yeah, I'm bisexual thanks for asking.
How would you feel if you called me by a certain racial slur and it turned out I was black?
Of course, given that you use words like "mongrel" and "fag" to describe other human beings, chances are you're on your way to a cross burning already.
Yet again, I've not called for or supported the notion of any censorship laws to be put in place.

 

[Masterdebator]

1. Very mature poll.
2. He's a stand up comedian. Everything is fair game to joke about.

That's really all that needs to be said. Getting upset at a comment like that won't do anything.

 

[thom_cat_]

I had a conversation with a friend not 10 minutes ago:

Spoiler

Me: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5UE2tjRkaCw do you have a problem with this?
not saying you shouldn't, but I want to hear your opinion
Her: i was gonna say 'well he's making fun of a culture where we have to tell people rape is bad which is kinda maybe ok but he's not doing a very good job', but then he went on and i think that he did a pretty good job of reducing the issue to a petty crime and making it seem like, i guess, not that much of a big deal - which is super wrong.
I don't think he handles it in that way
i do personally think rape jokes are only okay if victims use them to alleviate their own pain - if in a context where everyone understands that that is the purpose of the joke
I think the way he words it is clear that it's very wrong and only somebody who is actually fucked up would consider it in the first place.
yeah
but, then he goes on and frankly i think he milks it more than he needs to
I agree, but I think that's just toeing the line in general
I think comedy generally does that, you just have to be sure not to cross it.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b4hNaFkbZYU I think Louis CK's joke handles it in the same way
another problem is that we interpret him as being 'this is horrible that we need to tell people not to rape' but it could be interpreted by stoopids as meaning 'is stupid that we need to be told not to rape because it's not an issue'
yeah well the fucking stupids are not going to change.
mmm but i don't think we should validate their opinions
if you make a joke about murder and somebody takes it as "murder is good" you don't stop joking because some idiot has no sense of right and wrong.
the problem with murder is that 1 in 6 women aren't murdered in their lifetime
Yeah, but my problem with the previous argument is that it has no relation to that statistic, it's a pretend argument that makes no sense. For example, some mass murderers use games as an excuse for murder, say "call of duty taught me to kill people" or whatever. This doesn't mean games are to blame, it means that person is fucked in the head to begin with
and murder victims don't have to live in fear and trauma for the rest of their life
plus a lot of women live in fear of sexual assault, but not in fear of murder
to be honest i find this subject i bit too scary to discuss for too long
so we might leave it at that for now?

...SNIP...

but to be honest the subject matter is frightening and the thought of people who can casually joke about things like that is pretty appalling to me

I think Daniel Tosh is actually joking about rape, and that is really horrible, but the two examples I sent you are not about rape, rape is the subject matter to insert a sting, but the joke isn't about it, it's around it.
i still don't like that
And it's really scary to know that things like that can happen to my friends, it just makes me want to find the fuckers that think it's okay and do some retribution Girl With a Dragon Tattoo style
man girl with a dragon tattoo style is scary
BUT
probably not a good idea seeing as she's a psycopath
/sociopath (i can't remember which is which)
hah, I wouldn't do it to her method.
I don't even want to think about what I would do
some girl on tumblr (yes i spend my life on tumblr) punched a guy on the street in the face cos he said he'd like to rape some girl he saw
and i was like sweeeeet.
I would do that
urgh, how can anyone think that's okay
and what gets me the most is that a GROUP OF PEOPLE can think it's okay
i used to be all 'no violence' but then i realised that some people are actually just dickheads
i know!
I'm all for violence if it's called for
I think I have an issue with the whole tumblr "all rape jokes are not okay," because I want people to actually think about their opinions on things and not just blindly reject (humour) things because it contains rape as a theme. Because then it will just be a group silencing, without any thought.
i have done a lot of thought on my opinions on it
I know you have, but many many people just jump on the bandwagon
my main reason for not thinking they're ok ever is that i don't want to remind victims of the trauma they've suffered unless they bring it up or actively seek out conversation
and on my tumblr i feel like i can discuss this as people can have a tumblr block for trigger words
I disagree, I think there is the case where it is pretty unavoidable, so it just has to be treated carefully and considered.
Because if the case was you can't say anything that may trigger people, you wouldn't be able to talk about a LOT of things. And whilst you say 1/6, that is not 1/6 can be triggered. Don't let that make you think I don't think it's serious, but take war for example, soldiers are exposed to horrible things that scar some of them for life and these things can be joked about.

So that is my opinion. Rape jokes are not okay if they are about rape, and this is. This is directly about rape, and this was directed at someone personally. That is pretty much one of the worst things he could have done.

 

[Flight]

It's not funny. It's never funny, and it is absolutely not okay that this happened. And using humor as a shield in an attempt to deflect how disgusting his reaction was isn't okay, either.

 

[Aurora Firestorm]

I tend to give comedians a pass on just about anything, because worst case scenario, as long as they don't go bonkers, people get offended and stop giving them money by going to their shows. But more to the point...

I have triggers. They aren't for rape jokes, but I have them. My reaction to them being pressed at, is to do one of two things. 1) walk away and don't participate. If it's a show, and the guy has a reputation for fair jokes in bad taste, you know, it's my responsibility to take myself off. 2) Talk back. This is for the guy making horribly wrong jokes (and there really is a right and wrong way to do these things), or who is insulting victims, or what have you.

I'm not going to demand that everyone tailor their humor and comedy choices for me. I'm also going to hope everyone treats everyone civilly. I think Tosh didn't play this particularly well, and that his comment about the audience member was uncalled for. However, I also don't think we should ban comedians from approaching certain topics.

Basically, do it right.

 

[CorruptCor3]

Not sure why you even bothered to put up a poll...do you need people to agree with you that badly? Obviously with a subject such as rape there's a very fine line between offensive and funny and I think Tosh crossed it. A lot of his stuff crosses from just poking fun to just uncomfortable, so this isn't surprising to me. He's kind of a prick.

 

[mirasiel]

I had a conversation with a friend not 10 minutes ago:

Spoiler

Me: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5UE2tjRkaCw do you have a problem with this?
not saying you shouldn't, but I want to hear your opinion
Her: i was gonna say 'well he's making fun of a culture where we have to tell people rape is bad which is kinda maybe ok but he's not doing a very good job', but then he went on and i think that he did a pretty good job of reducing the issue to a petty crime and making it seem like, i guess, not that much of a big deal - which is super wrong.
I don't think he handles it in that way
i do personally think rape jokes are only okay if victims use them to alleviate their own pain - if in a context where everyone understands that that is the purpose of the joke
I think the way he words it is clear that it's very wrong and only somebody who is actually fucked up would consider it in the first place.
yeah
but, then he goes on and frankly i think he milks it more than he needs to
I agree, but I think that's just toeing the line in general
I think comedy generally does that, you just have to be sure not to cross it.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b4hNaFkbZYU I think Louis CK's joke handles it in the same way
another problem is that we interpret him as being 'this is horrible that we need to tell people not to rape' but it could be interpreted by stoopids as meaning 'is stupid that we need to be told not to rape because it's not an issue'
yeah well the fucking stupids are not going to change.
mmm but i don't think we should validate their opinions
if you make a joke about murder and somebody takes it as "murder is good" you don't stop joking because some idiot has no sense of right and wrong.
the problem with murder is that 1 in 6 women aren't murdered in their lifetime
Yeah, but my problem with the previous argument is that it has no relation to that statistic, it's a pretend argument that makes no sense. For example, some mass murderers use games as an excuse for murder, say "call of duty taught me to kill people" or whatever. This doesn't mean games are to blame, it means that person is fucked in the head to begin with
and murder victims don't have to live in fear and trauma for the rest of their life
plus a lot of women live in fear of sexual assault, but not in fear of murder
to be honest i find this subject i bit too scary to discuss for too long
so we might leave it at that for now?

...SNIP...

but to be honest the subject matter is frightening and the thought of people who can casually joke about things like that is pretty appalling to me

I think Daniel Tosh is actually joking about rape, and that is really horrible, but the two examples I sent you are not about rape, rape is the subject matter to insert a sting, but the joke isn't about it, it's around it.
i still don't like that
And it's really scary to know that things like that can happen to my friends, it just makes me want to find the fuckers that think it's okay and do some retribution Girl With a Dragon Tattoo style
man girl with a dragon tattoo style is scary
BUT
probably not a good idea seeing as she's a psycopath
/sociopath (i can't remember which is which)
hah, I wouldn't do it to her method.
I don't even want to think about what I would do
some girl on tumblr (yes i spend my life on tumblr) punched a guy on the street in the face cos he said he'd like to rape some girl he saw
and i was like sweeeeet.
I would do that
urgh, how can anyone think that's okay
and what gets me the most is that a GROUP OF PEOPLE can think it's okay
i used to be all 'no violence' but then i realised that some people are actually just dickheads
i know!
I'm all for violence if it's called for
I think I have an issue with the whole tumblr "all rape jokes are not okay," because I want people to actually think about their opinions on things and not just blindly reject (humour) things because it contains rape as a theme. Because then it will just be a group silencing, without any thought.
i have done a lot of thought on my opinions on it
I know you have, but many many people just jump on the bandwagon
my main reason for not thinking they're ok ever is that i don't want to remind victims of the trauma they've suffered unless they bring it up or actively seek out conversation
and on my tumblr i feel like i can discuss this as people can have a tumblr block for trigger words
I disagree, I think there is the case where it is pretty unavoidable, so it just has to be treated carefully and considered.
Because if the case was you can't say anything that may trigger people, you wouldn't be able to talk about a LOT of things. And whilst you say 1/6, that is not 1/6 can be triggered. Don't let that make you think I don't think it's serious, but take war for example, soldiers are exposed to horrible things that scar some of them for life and these things can be joked about.

So that is my opinion. Rape jokes are not okay if they are about rape, and this is. This is directly about rape, and this was directed at someone personally. That is pretty much one of the worst things he could have done.

And now would be where some of our classier posters accuse you of just white knighting to get into 'her' panties.

Because in their minds there is no other reason for a person to be nice or sympathetic/empathetic to a woman except to use her as a fucktoy.

Just thinking about your last bit about soldiers, I know a few ex-forces who did tours in N.I during the 70's and 80's, yeah they can make some awful jokes but jesus you do not want to be the person who actually triggers them on something and then follow it up with "Well I hope a bomb blow your fucking guts out too, it'd be so funny" for obvious reasons.

 

[Khazoth]

And now would be where some of our classier posters accuse you of just white knighting to get into 'her' panties.

Because in their minds there is no other reason for a person to be nice or sympathetic/empathetic to a woman except to use her as a fucktoy.

Just thinking about your last bit about soldiers, I know a few ex-forces who did tours in N.I during the 70's and 80's, yeah they can make some awful jokes but jesus you do not want to be the person who actually triggers them on something and then follow it up with "Well I hope a bomb blow your fucking guts out too, it'd be so funny" for obvious reasons.

No, you know what? Thats not the point, you might not be white knighting, but you are completely WRONG. This is YOUR tastes, this is YOUR line and the world does not revolve around YOU. The fact that you people focused on this says that you truly couldn't care less what happens to anyone or anything else on this world if its not a woman.

Have you seen his comedy? What he makes fun of? What other comedians make fun of? What they said to hecklers? But no, dead babies, massacres, tragedies, war, all of this is okay to make fun of...

But for the love of god don't make fun of a woman or any woman's issue or the legion of new feminists will march in and tell you how awful you are.

 

[Delsana]

In any case, maturity isn't subjective by its actual form and definition.

Yes it is. Go back to the drawing board and try again.

Maturity is not subjective. You can be immature and thus juvenile or you can be mature and thus conducive to proper behavior.

You can't subject what proper behavior is because etiquette and proper behavior has and will always be universal. Your opinion of what is proper may change but the definition of what is in society won't.

You can also not interpret what juvenile behavior is, because that's pretty much set in stone, and while you can debate age, it has nothing to do with age.

Maturity is entirely subjective. Different locations and societies have entirely different views of maturity. Why do you think different areas have different ages for when a person becomes an adult, or different ages of sexual consent? Because not everyone agrees on when someone is mature or not.

There is a huge group of people that consider playing video games to be immature. I'm sure you and I would disagree, meaning that maturity isn't some law that is set in stone.

Playing games isn't immature, but it is immature to make them a focus as the majority on here do.

And no, maturity doesn't differ for societies, adulthood differs for societies and locations. Maturity is a demeanor and behavior, you're thinking of the "age" variant of maturity, which is not being discussed.

 

[Delsana]

In any case, maturity isn't subjective by its actual form and definition.

Yes it is. Go back to the drawing board and try again.

Maturity is not subjective. You can be immature and thus juvenile or you can be mature and thus conducive to proper behavior.

You can't subject what proper behavior is because etiquette and proper behavior has and will always be universal. Your opinion of what is proper may change but the definition of what is in society won't.

You can also not interpret what juvenile behavior is, because that's pretty much set in stone, and while you can debate age, it has nothing to do with age.

Lol. Don't make me giggle and fall of my stool. What you consider proper is purely opinion based--different people, cultures and races all believe different things are proper and improper. I don't think you even know what subject and object mean. Here, let me show you a few examples of what the two are:

Subject: good, bad, right, wrong, hot, cold.
Object: science, mathematics, time, reality.

Don't try to argue the definition of words with an author unless you know a little something about English.

Since maturity has a definition, there is a reality view. That definition doesn't change. The adulthood stage and what makes them an adult does, but maturity is not about age or adulthood... it's about demeanor.

 

[Clearing the Eye]

In any case, maturity isn't subjective by its actual form and definition.

Yes it is. Go back to the drawing board and try again.

Maturity is not subjective. You can be immature and thus juvenile or you can be mature and thus conducive to proper behavior.

You can't subject what proper behavior is because etiquette and proper behavior has and will always be universal. Your opinion of what is proper may change but the definition of what is in society won't.

You can also not interpret what juvenile behavior is, because that's pretty much set in stone, and while you can debate age, it has nothing to do with age.

Lol. Don't make me giggle and fall of my stool. What you consider proper is purely opinion based--different people, cultures and races all believe different things are proper and improper. I don't think you even know what subject and object mean. Here, let me show you a few examples of what the two are:

Subject: good, bad, right, wrong, hot, cold.
Object: science, mathematics, time, reality.

Don't try to argue the definition of words with an author unless you know a little something about English.

Since maturity has a definition, there is a reality view. That definition doesn't change. The adulthood stage and what makes them an adult does, but maturity is not about age or adulthood... it's about demeanor.

One's level of maturity is subject to the onlooker's yardstick; your cold isn't cold to an Eskimo and your idea of maturity isn't mature to an individual a great deal more mature than you.

Ever heard the expression, beauty is in the eye of the beholder? So too is maturity.

 

[twohundredpercent]

Yo this poll is broken, there's no 'yes' option.

 

[locoartero]

May I ask what's the pint of a poll if you're going to force us to agree with your opinion to one degree or another? As Carlin put it once, you can joke about ANYTHING, as long as you pay attention to how you construct said joke.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5FsfLPohZ_c
Woody Allen proposes in "Crimes & Misdemenaors" (better than "Match Point", come on, people) that jokes are "tragedy plus time". Problem is, rape is, sadly, timeless, for the lack of a better word. Is something that happens all time. The formula doesn't apply here. But we've been making jokes about murder for years. Hell, I make jokes about soap and jews all the time in my classroom and not a single one of us is anti-semitic or a neo-nazi, and yet they're still funny.
Humor is humor. And it shouldn't be put on a leash just because some people get offended. Most jokes WILL offend somebody. Jokes about the frickin Titanic might be offensive to survivor descendants. Jokes about how annoying and slow was the guy who took your order at McDonalds will offend other McDonalds employees.
Hell, look at Bobcat Goldthwait's last three films. He should be set on fire by a similar standard. Bestiality, auto erotic asphyxiation, and for "God Bless America" would need a separate post.
Everyone has a right to make jokes about whatever they want, as long as they are jokes meant to be funny and not stupid insults hurled around passing as jokes. Problem is, humor is subjective and there's no unanimous distinction between the two. Any attempt to censor people trying to past disgusting shit under the radar as humor might smite actual jokes and humorists. The medicine would be worse than the disease. (I don't know how you use that phrase in English, I translated it from my native Spanish)
I just realized my hands are so cold some strokes didn't type letters. Tried to correct it manually, sorry if I missed some.