Poll: Dark Knight 3, new characters?

[sms_117b]

IMDB only has "Untitled Batman Project" as a sequel, and it's normally right.

However I am feeling the characters of Harley Quinn and The Riddler, could be really good.

 

[Acid Armageddon]

Dude...Two-Face is dead. If Nolan thinks that The Penguin is too much camp for his Batman, what would he think of Two-Face coming from the grave.

actually they never said he was dead and he was breathing after the fall

i'd like to see catwoman, tho she's not really a villain

i think they'll do the riddler tho

Dude--Two face is dead! They showed the funeral!!!

 

[Space Spoons]

The Holiday Killer. I would kill to see a film adaptation of The Long Halloween. Bit difficult to do without Two-Face, but it's manageable.

 

[Undyingmarksman]

BANE!!!! and he will have a mexican accent because the same character was badass in the old cartoon series. "Hehllo Batman i haive come to kill you".

 

[PeterDawson]

I'm a big fan of the idea of David Tennant playing the Riddler, plus I think if adapted correctly he could be an excellent compliment to the Joker.

The other I'd love to see is Mr Freeze but done right, not campy. I want a good, Bruce Timm style adaptation of the character.

 

[Squarez]

To be honest I think I'd be a hard decision to make.

The Riddler could be seen as too similar to the Joker.
Harley Quinn the same.

Killer Croc could be seen as too similar to The Lizard (who's confirmed for Spider-Man 4)

Christopher Nolan said he wouldn't do the Penguin.

Christian Bale said he would leave if they bought in Robin, so that's unlikely.

Which leaves just Bane and Catwoman, and I don't they'd do those.

 

[EscapeGoat_v1legacy]

I think the Riddler is the most viable character to have in the latest Batman film.

However, I'd like to see Harley Quinn in it, perhaps seeking revenge for the death of the Joker?
Not that Heath Ledger's Joker seemed like the type to make, let alone keep, many friends.

 

[oliveira8]

To be honest...lets think for a moment here. Instead of thinking of new villains, why not thinking if there should be a third Nolan Batman.

The first thing is The Joker. No its not cause Ledger perfomance was awesome or anything like that. In the end of "The Dark Knight" the Joker lives and Two-Face is dead(YES DEAD!ITS CONFIRMED IN THE MOVIE AND OUTSIDE OF THE MOVIE.), obvious Nolan was counting on The Joker for the third installement, if not The Joker would have died.

-The black irony...the villain that lives at the end of the movie the actor dies, but the one that dies in the movie is alive.-

So with no Joker for a 3rd installment, wouldn't it feel strange that Harley Quinn a villain that is connect with The Joker, would never actually come in contact with The Joker itself? He is alive after all. Why doen't Harley break him out of the prison? SOmething?

Yeah...this could all be fixed. Recasting The Joker...but now, would Nolan risk producing a very expensive movie just to see it being ripped by fans and critcs, cause the guy playing The Joker its not worth of licking Ledger's boots. Yeah he won't do that. So introducing a character that is supposedly involved with the Joker is not going to cut in.

Second, The Penguin, Robin are too "camp" and "comic book" for Nolan's Batman(I think that The Penguin could work...) and Bale is not coming back if Robin comes in too. So those two are out. Catwoman would be good as a love interest for Bruce..but again, Nolan doesn't seem to like the character either.

That leaves Bane, The Riddler and the others. Now if Bane can cut in Nolan's Batman and the Penguin doesn't that would be stupid as hell...About the others..ish...maybe Kite Man would be a good choise. xD

But The Riddler uh? But doesn't The Joker fill in the crazy terrorist role already?. Wouldn't it be changing a crazy bomber for another crazy bomber? But besides all The Riddler seems to be the next villain...so...bleh.

Which leads to the conclusion...Don't make a new Batman. The pressure to create a worthy sequel to "The Dark Knight" would be to big, the hype even bigger and the expectations through the roof. The main co-star to the third movie is dead and the 2nd main villain is also dead. Whatever plot Nolan was thinking its now in a big fire. He said he didn't found a reason yet to come back to the Batman franchise which translated says: "I have no idea what to do with it..soo....hmpf."

So don't bother to make a Batman 3, let The Dark Knight be the end of it.

 

[King Yayap]

Well... let's have me an analysis.
First, I'm also calling bullshit on the posters. Most definitely fake - the movie is still in the discussion phase, dammit!
Second I'm going to present two ideas - two entirely different premises based on whether Ledger would be replaced or not.
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Villains: The Joker (mainly as a manipulator in Arkham), Harley Quinn (A la Two-Face), The Penquin (Ugly mob boss rising to mighty godfather)
Plot: The Joker is incarcerated, and Batman is on the run, fighting crime whilst accepting those of the deceased Two-Face. As the police, their resolve stronger after the Dark Knight affair, begin to shut down the mob, the Joker charms his psychiatrist, Harleen Quinzel, stealing her phone and, using it, contacts a former henchman - the deformed, sociopathic Oswald Cobblepot.
A penniless bum with eyes on aristocracy, Cobblepot was formerly a con artist before joining the Joker. Oswald, tormented since youth by the name of Penquin (due to his glandular obesity, stumpy, waddling gait and long, crooked nose) is asked to spread chaos by joining the mob. However, smart enough to run on his own two feet, Oswald insted takes the idea for himself, hoping to collapse Gotham into his headquarters for a new criminal empire. He cons a nightclub from its owner and begins racketeering, obtaining much of the north of Gotham as the Batman clashes with his mob henchmen.
Meanwhile, the Joker begins to mould the quiet and timid Harleen into his twisted mirror image, manipulating the reforming games in their psychiatry sessions and eventually reversing the roles as Harleen, who believes she loves the Joker (her pumpkin'), laps up his worldviews and slips into insanity as his abuse and mind games crack her psyche. Eventually, she takes a razor blade (in a scene reminiscent of both the Jokers mirror scene from Batman and the Catwoman sewing scene from Batman Returns) and carves herself a permanent Nicholson or Comics-esque rictus grin before tearing up her red and black dresses and stitching a costume for herself, taking the moinker Harley Quinn.
After a number of clashes with both the police and the ever growing, Penquin managed mob, Batman begins to doubt his abilities in a city that despises him for doing the right thing. He, as Bruce Wayne, encounters Cobblepot at a socialites gathering. Cobblepot, who has used his ill gotten gains and become a self-claimed-self-made man, attempts to con Bruce out of Waynecorp. However, Bruce recognises Cobblepot for who he is after he utters his characteristic laugh (a wheezing, athsmatic blend between a chuckle and a guffaw) and leaves, confronting and interrogating the Penquin (Burton-ish outfit, but with more of a mod feel, eg black and white two piece suit or a drab grey blazer and a scruffy white shirt). Just before he cracks, though, Harley Quin (wearing her costume and messy white facepaint and black lipstick and three black freckles on each cheek).
Quinn assaults the Batman and eventually slices his stomach across his belly button with a kitchen knife, penetrating the gaps in his armour (Harley's madness is childishly psychotic, making her unpredictable and effective. She also continuously hums the nursery rhyme "Three Blind Mice"). Leaving him for dead, she escapes with the Penquin. Harley then proceeds to feign loyalty to him, while, in actuality, she follows the commands of the Joker ringing in her head (Harley eventually develops schitzophrenia, hallucinating that her "pumpkin'" is in front of her, in his straightjacket [which is purple and green in her hallucinations], barking orders and leading her to their cherished anarchy).
The nightclub where the battle occured is investigated by the police. Commisioner Gordon finds Batman and, instead of arresting him, brings him to his home and, with the aid of his wife, 10 year old son and 16 year old daughter, nurse shim back to health, never removing his mask. Batman remains unconcious (blood poisoning?) for several days. When he awakes, he speaks to Gordon, and, as a thanks and a show of respect, leaves him his mask. Gordon, who did not see Batmans face, places the mask on his mantel.
The film culminates in a collosal mob war, as the Penquin and his legions storm the city, as Harley duels with the Batman. However, as the Penquin revels in his near victory, he begins to aspyxiate due to the smoke and dust from the gunfire. When he reaches for his inhaler (which began in the film as a shabby, cracked blue one and became a perfect condition one, a gold one and culminated in platinum) he realises it is not there - instead, a card with a jesters face on one side and a joker smile on the other alerts him to the treachery of Harley. As the battle rages on, he is shot point blanc in the chest by his own minion, as his flailing around got in the way of the shot as it was fired.
Batman eventually pins Harley to the floor, and, after a lengthy dualogue over the morality of men and the state of the mind, brings her to Gordon, asking for her to go to state prison as opposed to Arkham. Quinn, who had been secure in the belief that her "pumpkin" was at the end of the road for her, begins to writhe and scream before curling into the fetal position, sobbing, in the back of a paddy wagon.
Here, the film ends. However, there is an after-credits scene wherin a hand with long, painted fingernails takes the Batman mask down from the mantel...

Ok... I'm going to put the second bit uo tomorrow - I'm tired now. If anyone wants to comment on my overlong post, go ahead!

That sounds pretty in-depth, and actually rather good! Make it now.

 

[Deef]

Ok first off the movie will not be called Dark Knight 3, it'll probably be something more intelligent than that. (Batman Begins, Dark Knight, Dark Knight 3? Wtf?)

But I think that Catwoman should be the next villain. The Batman movies need more sexy.

 

[Jharry5]

I think it'll most likely be the Riddler (I'd heard Johnny Depp and Eddie Murphy were possibilities - yay to the first and hell no to the latter).
I think Harley Quinn would have been a very interesting character to use. But, without Heath Ledger as the Joker (as if anyone else could take that role on now), I can't see how they'd be able to add her in credibly...

 

[Zombie_Fish]

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How good would David Tennant be at the Joker do you think?

 

[King Yayap]

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How good would David Tennant be at the Joker do you think?

I'm not sure, he's not on the same scale of craziness as Heath Ledger. He uses smart and witty humour in Doctor Who, akin to the Riddler, whereas the Joker was more mentally disfunctional and genuinely insane, although David Tennant may be up to the task (first episode of the remake of the series "Randall and Hopkirk (Deceased)" he did play quite the nutter).

 

[Ultrajoe]

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There are quite a few released along side these as well. Also, a few cast members supposedly commented on the casting.

And it's confirmed as a fake (the Dr Riddler picture). Sorry man, I was excited as well, it's faker then the breasts in a rappers music video. Look it up, more than one site has the scoop.

The extra footage in the Dark Knight DvD has the scrolling news in the special features extra scenes read 'Random Steroid Testing begins on officers'. Nolan is leaving his options open something shocking when it comes to future villains, and this confirms that Bane is a very real and awesome possibility.

That and some of the names of passing characters in the films suggest everyone from Black Mask to Ivy, right up to, yep, Mr Freeze. I think they could pull him off properly.

However, my vote goes to Bane, Riddler and Harley Quinn. Depp for riddler, so predictable but sooo good... and sexy.

 

[dontworryaboutit]

I was almost positive that it was going to be the Penguin.

As in the mobster that Batman dropped off the roof. I figured that would be the limp and the plastic surgery he would get from having been in that car crash would cause the nose. But I guess I was mistaken.

 

[CliveMurdoc626]

Sadly we might not see another Batman flick made by Nolan, cause it seems like it would be too difficult to work around the Joker not being there and recasting him would seem like it was in bad taste. If Ledger was still alive then I'd choose him plus Harley Quinn as a back-up villan. Since thats not going to happen then the Riddler seems to be the most logical choice and maybe Catwomen as sort of a neutral character between Batman and the villan. Maybe Penguin if pressed but at least learn from Spiderman 3 and don't cluster-fuck a bunch of stories into a three hour time frame and doen't turn Batman into an angsty ****!

 

[King Yayap]

Sadly we might not see another Batman flick made by Nolan, cause it seems like it would be too difficult to work around the Joker not being there and recasting him would seem like it was in bad taste. If Ledger was still alive then I'd choose him plus Harley Quinn as a back-up villan. Since thats not going to happen then the Riddler seems to be the most logical choice and maybe Catwomen as sort of a neutral character between Batman and the villan. Maybe Penguin if pressed but at least learn from Spiderman 3 and don't cluster-fuck a bunch of stories into a three hour time frame and doen't turn Batman into an angsty ****!

Beautiful...
I see what you mean with the idea that the Joker shouldn't be recast, but to be honest why should the Joker be in the next Batman film? He has obviously been captured and thus is not in Gotham City, so he should merely be mentioned if necessary to the plot.

 

[CliveMurdoc626]

Well with what hapened in the Dark Knight His presence would certainly be felt even if hes not there and it was obvious that Nolan had even more plans for the Joker. Plus one of the best aspects of the Joker (at least in my opinon) is no matter how much hes beat down he still manages to come back. And if nothing eles if there was the opportunity to see Heath Ledgers Psychoticly Masterful performance again wouldn't you want it to be taken.

 

[clicketycrack]

All I really care about is that they don't make a fucking Robin. There aren't any half way decent male stars that about the right age to play so they'd probably just pull a **** move and get some shitty early twenties actor thats never been in anything that wasn't a generic pile of shit. By that I mean Nicholas Cage. HAR HAR HAR Nicholas Cage hate.