Poll: Death Battle Goku vs Superman

[MetalGenocide]

At the peak of their power, they are equal.
At the most common way depicted, goku wins.
Why is this even a thing? It's obvious.
Ah well... I guess a dream fight for the sake of having one.

 

[Moderated]

Superman has heat eye beams. Goku has literally been to hell with no ill effects.
Superman can fly pretty fast. Goku can fly so fast he is invisible to the naked eye.
Superman has super strength. Goku also has super strength, but he can dodge every punch superman throws.
Superman can jump. That's cool, I guess.
Goku can destroy planets. Can superman?

 

[The White Hunter]

This all hinges on whether or not Goku has Kryponite. Because if he doesn't, the Boy Scout will ultimately win.

Teleports him to Kryptonite.

Now I have one for you:

Whitebeard vs Batman.

Batman is the motherfucking Batman. Whitebeards punches shatter the air itself. Discuss.

Mmmm, Whitebeard is human though.

Spoiler

He also dies from normal wounds

if this is a fight to the death Batman always looses because of his "No Kill" rule.

I'd hardly call

Spoiler

the wounds Whitebeard dies from anywhere near normal, all the holes in his body, a huge amount of stab and gunshot wounds, not to mention basically missing half his head and having his insides roasted, all well into his 70's and dying of illness anyway

Yeah if a death fight then Batman loses. Unless he has some kind of Whitebeard repellant bat-spray... What if we replace Whitebeard with Shanks?...

Edit: How about Monkey D. Luffy (post-timeskip, so with all 3 Haki forms and mastery of his Gear techniques) vs that dude from the fantastic 4 that stretches?

 

[The White Hunter]

Clearly this fight will only end when Goku and Superman use the Potara earrings to fuse and become Clarku.

Or Vegeta shows up and they become Vegito and destroy Superman with the flick of a wrist.

Except Vegito would just toy with him and end up getting his ass kicked somehow because he's too much Vegeta and not enough Goku.

SSJ4 Gogeta, now thats victory by just blinking...

 

[chozo_hybrid]

There wouldn't be a fight, because they wouldn't have a reason to. Besides, I call them equals, especially since Superman and Goku are basically alternate versions of one another. Last son of Krypton/Vegeta, arrived in a small space ship, has super human strength and abilities, the list of similarities go on and on.

If for some reason they had to fight, I would say it would end in a draw, Goku wouldn't kill him because he's not evil and Superman tends to not kill people either.

Spoiler: Here's an image to sum up my opnion.

Yeah, this is the most likely scenario. They're both genuinely good guys. Goku has been known to kill his enemies as a last way out.

If they were to fight I would say they would prove to be evenly matched. I really don't know if it would be possible to determine the outcome of such a battle.

Exactly, I've never understood these deathmatch scenarios for characters from different things. I guess the idea is novel, but I've never been one to mash things together like that.

 

[Macgyvercas]

This all hinges on whether or not Goku has Kryponite. Because if he doesn't, the Boy Scout will ultimately win.

Teleports him to Kryptonite.

Now I have one for you:

Whitebeard vs Batman.

Batman is the motherfucking Batman. Whitebeards punches shatter the air itself. Discuss.

Nerd fail.

Superman's home planet's name is Krypton. Kryptonite is what's left of the planet after it was destroyed. Ergo, teleportation to Krypton is impossible unless one can also travel in time.

 

[Ieyke]

See, that's ultimately the thing about this - Warhammer 40,000 completely outclasses every other sci-fi universe in terms of power level. The entire premise of the setting is that everything is turned up past 11 and registers over 9000 on the Holy-Shit-O-Meter.

Dragon Ball Z, similarly, exists purely to make the extreme power level of every episode even more insane than the episode before it.
The DC Universe has limits of sorts designed to sustain an ongoing, shared comicbook universe. Superman can only get so powerful before he outclasses anything any everything and invalidates the need for any other heroes and the possibility of dealing with human-centric storylines.
DBZ has no such issues. Goku is THE hero. Human-level storylines are basically irrelevant when all the relevant characters are godlike superbeings. DBZ simply doesn't need to obey any sort of limits.

Goku in basically all of his adult forms is always more powerful than Superman in all but his very most powerful form - Superman Prime. Even then, Superman Prime isn't really a valid comparison, because he's an alternate reality "What If?" version of Superman from like 1000 years in the future. Superman Prime would be something to compare to like a "What If?" Super Saiyan 10 Goku or something.


Anyone saying Superman is invincible when there's no Kryptonite involved... No.
Superman is simply super tough. There are plenty of beings in DC (Wonder Woman, Darkseid, Doomsday etc) who are easily powerful enough to hurt Superman just by punching him. These are punches that simply devastate structures in the immediate area of the fight.
And that's what I was saying earlier - the attacks regularly aimed at Goku tend to level whole mountain ranges.

Just the ambient power generated by Goku and his enemies fighting tends to be enough to devastate the surrounding landscape.

Goku is like Superman....except waaaaaay more powerful. Instead of Kryptonite, Goku simply ends up fighting more and more powerful enemies. That's the only reason he dies.

Superman's power varies depending on sunlight, proximity to Kryptonite, etc.
Goku only ever gets more powerful.
Getting his ass beat makes Goku more powerful.
Like Hulk, anger makes Goku more powerful...except it's permanent and he only gets MORE powerful the next time you make him mad enough.
Dying makes Goku waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay more powerful.
Being dead is time Goku utilizes to become more powerful.
Flying on a spaceship is time Goku uses to become more powerful.
Growing back his tail makes Goku more powerful.
Kaio-ken multiplies Goku's power.
Every level of Super Saiyan transformation makes Goku exponentially more powerful than the level before it.
Just FIGHTING makes Goku more powerful...and all he does is fight.


Initially it SOUNDS like it'd be a good match up, but Goku just takes all the same concepts as Superman and runs with them like a crazy person.

 

[chozo_hybrid]

This all hinges on whether or not Goku has Kryponite. Because if he doesn't, the Boy Scout will ultimately win.

Teleports him to Kryptonite.

Now I have one for you:

Whitebeard vs Batman.

Batman is the motherfucking Batman. Whitebeards punches shatter the air itself. Discuss.

Nerd fail.

Superman's home planet's name is Krypton. Kryptonite is what's left of the planet after it was destroyed. Ergo, teleportation to Krypton is impossible unless one can also travel in time.

I don't think that person meant teleporting to Krypton, just a place where kryptonite is. It's very common knowledge that even people who don't read comics know Superman has no home planet as it was the reason he was put in a rocket to save his life. So I don't think that's what that post was about.

Don't be so quick to point out "nerd fails" as you put it, because if you read the post again, the word kryptonite was used, not Krypton. We all know that some of his enemies and random places still have kryptonite lying about, so it's entirely possible that it could be used against Superman, as his enemies do as well.

 

[Yopaz]

There wouldn't be a fight, because they wouldn't have a reason to. Besides, I call them equals, especially since Superman and Goku are basically alternate versions of one another. Last son of Krypton/Vegeta, arrived in a small space ship, has super human strength and abilities, the list of similarities go on and on.

If for some reason they had to fight, I would say it would end in a draw, Goku wouldn't kill him because he's not evil and Superman tends to not kill people either.

Spoiler: Here's an image to sum up my opnion.

Yeah, this is the most likely scenario. They're both genuinely good guys. Goku has been known to kill his enemies as a last way out.

If they were to fight I would say they would prove to be evenly matched. I really don't know if it would be possible to determine the outcome of such a battle.

Exactly, I've never understood these deathmatch scenarios for characters from different things. I guess the idea is novel, but I've never been one to mash things together like that.

Yeah, others have already said it, but mixing characters from different worlds don't really work. Both Superman and Goku are as strong as it's necessary to win. Goku has lost on several occasions, he's failed, he's even died, but he's always victorious in the end. The same can be said for Superman, Batman, Spiderman or any protagonist. The protagonist wins.

 

[verdant monkai]

See, that's ultimately the thing about this - Warhammer 40,000 completely outclasses every other sci-fi universe in terms of power level. The entire premise of the setting is that everything is turned up past 11 and registers over 9000 on the Holy-Shit-O-Meter.

Woah woah woah woah....... WH40k outclasses all other sci fi universes? I am a huge 40k fan I play Orks and Dark Eldar, I have a lot of models and play up to 3000 points games with my friend and sometimes we play at a local gaming shop, I have been into it for years. I have read a load of the fantasy books Gotrek and Felix being some of the best fantasy I have read, but the 40k story? I have attempted to read about four of them and not finished one. Anyone wondering what the stories are like should read this ahem:

Las cannon fire carved through the stagnant air of Feragus Prime, Land raiders crawled through debris of a Tycheron class Imperial cruiser, looking like hungry wolves loping through the distended belly of an angry rotting god. But Brother Captain Agothodes gave his undivided attention to the task at hand , his task... no the emperors task. For was he not the emperors unconquerable will made flesh incarnate? His mind a holy chapel, his Bolter the emperors wrath, his power armour the emperors pious zeal, his life a crusade against the enemies of the man god the xenos and the unbearable heretic?
Agothodes lifted his head and roared out a pious war cry "4 DA EMPRAH", with zeal strengthening his arms and heart, hate for the emperors enemies focusing his mighty onslaught. He charged the foul grin skinned xenos carving through them like a furious avatar of the emperors might [INSERT MORE OVER THE TOP ADJECTIVES AND TEDIOUS IN DEPTH KILLING].
Agothodes raised his head from the battlefield which was now a charnel house of slaughter. Agothodes lowered his head in prayer thanking the emporer for prolong in his existence, so he could continue to serve the man god. Then Agothodes really needed a shit but was told by the Chaplain "in the future there is only war". So he decided to go inside his power armour.
The End

They suck. The plots are dull, they are full of stuff you will only recognise if you play space marines, the characters are too undeveloped to be characters, the constant depressing imagery is dull and the whole thing is pointless because no one has any reason to live other than "the dead psychic guy wants us to".

If you are here for the death battle I can only apologise and say move along nothing to see here. Also all you people saying Superman is slow compared to Goku, you are 100% WRONG he can fly so fast he turns back time. He could go back to when Goku was a baby and eat him.
thnak you

 

[Ieyke]

Lets not go off on a 40k tangent. You seem to have missed the point.


No, Superman CAN'T turn back time by flying backwards around the world. He could go fast enough to time travel for little bit in the 40's and in the one movie, and since then it has been utterly disregarded. At best, you can make the argument that an alternate universe Superman was briefly able to do it, but the primary Superman can't.
There was also a Superman who could turn people black.
Superman has had a lot of stupid WTF one-time powers.

Superman can move faster than sound and nearly the speed of light.
Goku is able to move at speeds well beyond the speed of light, making a mockery of vast interstellar distances under his own power of flight.

 

[drisky]

Goku will when with the power poll of all things being a big part of it, as it is an enchanted weapon. He can push Superman away form the sun making him progressively weaker too, Goku has no specific weaknesses like that.

 

[verdant monkai]

Lets not go off on a 40k tangent. You seem to have missed the point.


No, Superman CAN'T turn back time by flying backwards around the world. He could go fast enough to time travel for little bit in the 40's and in the one movie,

You are right I almost derailed my own thread sorry old boy. I guess it really depends on which powers they choose to acknowledge, because I would say that time altering flight is as fast if faster than interstellar flight. As you said though if all else fails he could just change Goku's ethnicity to confuse him.

 

[The White Hunter]

This all hinges on whether or not Goku has Kryponite. Because if he doesn't, the Boy Scout will ultimately win.

Teleports him to Kryptonite.

Now I have one for you:

Whitebeard vs Batman.

Batman is the motherfucking Batman. Whitebeards punches shatter the air itself. Discuss.

Nerd fail.

Superman's home planet's name is Krypton. Kryptonite is what's left of the planet after it was destroyed. Ergo, teleportation to Krypton is impossible unless one can also travel in time.

I didn't fail, I done goofed. I had meant to say he could teleport him to some Kryptonite. This is what happens when I type things when I'm exhausted, sorry.

 

[generals3]

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If you are here for the death battle I can only apologise and say move along nothing to see here. Also all you people saying Superman is slow compared to Goku, you are 100% WRONG he can fly so fast he turns back time. He could go back to when Goku was a baby and eat him.
thnak you

If that's a reference to that movie i'd say the only reason why could travel through time is because the movie went full battshit stupid. Goku could probably do the same if the DBZ series decided you could go back into time purely with speed. And let's not forget Goku can travel faster than light (much much much much faster) (teleportation).

Look, the problem is that DBZ has given a whole new meaning to "overpowered". Comparing anything to DBZ characters is like comparing a roman legionnaire with a B-2 armed with nukes.

 

[Macgyvercas]

This all hinges on whether or not Goku has Kryponite. Because if he doesn't, the Boy Scout will ultimately win.

Teleports him to Kryptonite.

Now I have one for you:

Whitebeard vs Batman.

Batman is the motherfucking Batman. Whitebeards punches shatter the air itself. Discuss.

Nerd fail.

Superman's home planet's name is Krypton. Kryptonite is what's left of the planet after it was destroyed. Ergo, teleportation to Krypton is impossible unless one can also travel in time.

I didn't fail, I done goofed. I had meant to say he could teleport him to some Kryptonite. This is what happens when I type things when I'm exhausted, sorry.

Ahh, fair enough. Carry on, good sir.

 

[The White Hunter]

This all hinges on whether or not Goku has Kryponite. Because if he doesn't, the Boy Scout will ultimately win.

Teleports him to Kryptonite.

Now I have one for you:

Whitebeard vs Batman.

Batman is the motherfucking Batman. Whitebeards punches shatter the air itself. Discuss.

Nerd fail.

Superman's home planet's name is Krypton. Kryptonite is what's left of the planet after it was destroyed. Ergo, teleportation to Krypton is impossible unless one can also travel in time.

I didn't fail, I done goofed. I had meant to say he could teleport him to some Kryptonite. This is what happens when I type things when I'm exhausted, sorry.

Ahh, fair enough. Carry on, good sir.

Thank you, I shall do so. Though I will admit I'm not too up on Superman, or anything in terms of western comics, but I do know enough for that > >

 

[verdant monkai]

Look, the problem is that DBZ has given a whole new meaning to "overpowered". Comparing anything to DBZ characters is like comparing a roman legionnaire with a B-2 armed with nukes.

This is generally just rule of thumb with anime really isn't it? It may have something with the Japanese preferring their hero stories being as far removed from reality as possible. Where as we in the west seem to have developed some massive hard on for realistic "gritty" stuff recently ugh.

You only have to look at the super hero films, they removed Bane's super strength and made Ras al ghul a normal bloke instead of immortal. The X-men films are also a good example because instead of the diverse interesting comic outfits they have the mind numbingly dull black leather uniform, with an X on their belts which just looks out of place and pathetic. And since Goku is way ahead in terms of votes it seems the Japs have the right idea, so less normal people in bland outfits and more crazy planet bashing freaks in pyjamas I say!

 

[Ieyke]

Well, to be fair, the X-Men movies started in an era where it was believed comic book movies with heroes in bright or crazy costumes(aside from Batman) couldn't be successful. The X-Men followed in the belief that the reason certain superhero movies (Blade, Punisher, Batman, etc) were fairly successful was that you could take them seriously dressed in black. The pattern DID seem to support that....so the costumes were toned down and tamed to what they saw as the most "realistic" easily-digestible form they could imagine.
Starting with Spider-Man, they sort of realized it CAN work (though the Green Goblin still suffered from the "must be realistic" mind set). And from there you can watch the costumes evolve up to Iron Man, where they went as straight-up faithful to the comics as they could, and knocked it out of the park.
Now we have The Avengers, which is just colorful as all hell, but also one of the most massively successful things ever.