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lunavixen

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On the very off chance i get married, i don't want a gold or diamond ring, as I can't wear gold and i hate diamonds (in jewellery). For practical purposes like drill bits and saw blades, diamonds are great, but for rings and stuff, they are well and truly overhyped, i'd much prefer silver and either amethyst, ruby/garnet or sapphires.
 

mattttherman3

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One day, if I am ever well off enough, I swear I'll be getting a custom Green Lantern ring made, with an actual emerald.
 

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The advantage a diamond ring has over anything larger and gaudier is that it's visible, but takes up a small amount of space on a rarely-used digit, and can be worn for long periods of time (Some people NEVER remove their engagement ring, to no ill effect). Other options such as outfits or gaudier, on the other hand, are more cumbersome (Clothes, lol headdresses, broadswords), and/or get in the way (Necklaces LOVE to bounce around and get caught on things during day-to-day activity), and/or need constant replacing (Clothes).

Gold never tarnishes. Diamond is durable and hard-wearing. You never have to replace a ring, unless you remove and lose it. But you never have to remove a ring, so you never have to lose it. A physical, indestructible object is far more permanent than emotions and feelings that can be challenged on a day-to-day basis. Because it's purchased BEFORE the wedding, it's also a nostalgic reminder of when a relationship was enthusiastic, giving a common ground for helping to repair failing relationships. Something that is consumed or temporary(Meals/vehicles), needs maintenance or changes over time (Houses), or becomes indistinguishable from the rest of a person's wealth (Stocks/investments/bullion) doesn't have the same ability to evoke the memories and promises from the beginning of a relationship, and forms a very unstable analogy for the relationship. Houses change over time. Cars are replaced and/or wrecked. Clothes rot away or are shoved away somewhere never to be seen again. Investments are traded and lose their value. Broadswords are just silly. But a diamond-and-gold ring remains as it was when it was first bought forever. And if the relationship does go downhill, you can give the damn thing back. Or keep it as a reminder of how things didn't work out.

And then there's the cost of the ring - One month's wages show that the person is serious about the relationship, especially since most people haven't been working very many months when they get engaged. Talk is cheap, and the flowery romantic can change his mood for a moment in a moment, but the ring says he values you enough that he set aside a significant portion of his earnings to show he wants to spend his life with you. It says he's serious about the relationship in ways no amount of flowery language, no matter how heartfelt at the time, can do. Or it tells you that he's a fool. "One month's wages" instead of some arbitrary, fixed value ensures that the value of the ring is the same for the couple whether they're wealthy or poor - IT IS NOT a competition among women over who has the biggest/shiniest ring - the rings and stones aren't so large and conspicuous that others would notice the size/cut of the gem. That kind of detail is between you and him/her.

Should the diamond stone and metal band itself be negotiable between people? Absolutely, but you need to keep the symbolic qualities in mind and not cast them aside when you change the metal/stone combination - you don't want something that will tarnish, break, or discolor over the next 50-100 years, nor do you want something cheap.
 

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Combustion Kevin said:
meh, there are prettier rocks out there, like the opal that has been mentioned above, but I'm not much of a ring person anyway.

Instead I wanna hear you guy's opinion on this one: Engagement/Wedding broadswords!
Think about it, not only is it a symbol of nobility, chivalry and strength, but also symbolises your trust in her/him that they won't use this weapon on you, and states your wish to see them safe.

It also makes a nice addition to home security, if I were burgling in someones house and I'm confronted with some angry half-naked ************ with a sword, I bail.

in fact, why would you use a ring at all, surely there are more awesome things to symbolise love and commitment?
This. This should be a thing. Plus you could carry them during the ceremony and it would be totally awesome. And you can have them on the wall! With a shield with the new family crest on it. Now I just have to find a girl who thinks that's cool too and I'm in.
 

Canadamus Prime

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I plan on getting the nicest ring I can afford. Whether or not it has a diamond in it is hard to say at this point. It probably won't though.
2HF said:
Just a quick thing, I see this come up a lot. Don't use this thread to whine about how you are forever alone. If you truly believe that then clearly the poll question wasn't meant for you. Stop being whiny and go ask someone out. The worst they can do is say no.
And since YOU brought it up, if it were that bloody easy don't you think I would've done that???
 

Aris Khandr

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Combustion Kevin said:
Instead I wanna hear you guy's opinion on this one: Engagement/Wedding broadswords!
Think about it, not only is it a symbol of nobility, chivalry and strength, but also symbolises your trust in her/him that they won't use this weapon on you, and states your wish to see them safe.
Let's just go all out: DIAMOND BROADSWORD!!!!!

I'm way too small for a broadsword, though. I'll take a diamond rapier.
 

Xan Krieger

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You know why I love diamonds? Do you realize the amount of work I save using a diamond pickaxe over an iron one?

Aside from that you wanna tell me diamonds are worthless but I guarantee you if I had a big one in my hand and I walked down the street with it I'd be robbed by the first person who could reach me. Humanity says they're worth a lot so however worthless they may be to you they're worth a ton to other people.

As to your poll, on the off chance I do get a girl she can have the biggest diamond I can buy.
 

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Moonlight Butterfly said:
Diamonds are pretty but I really prefer Tanzanite because they are such a beautiful blue. I doubt there is a guy out there that thinks I'm worth that though. xD

That's not true pretty lady, besides Tanzanites are actually pretty cheap.
 

Moonlight Butterfly

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Aris Khandr said:
Combustion Kevin said:
Instead I wanna hear you guy's opinion on this one: Engagement/Wedding broadswords!
Think about it, not only is it a symbol of nobility, chivalry and strength, but also symbolises your trust in her/him that they won't use this weapon on you, and states your wish to see them safe.
Let's just go all out: DIAMOND BROADSWORD!!!!!

I'm way too small for a broadsword, though. I'll take a diamond rapier.
Minecraft wedding? :p

disgruntledgamer said:
I just think they are really pretty. In my opinion a lady should always wear jewellery that compliments her eyes.
 

disgruntledgamer

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Moonlight Butterfly said:
I just think they are really pretty. In my opinion a lady should always wear jewellery that compliments her eyes.
That wasn't really the point, but I take it your eyes are blue like mine? I have little to no fashion sense so I have no idea what compliments blue other than maybe....Blue?
 

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Perhaps useless (I am of the opinion that the symbology and romance actually means something), but with your logic OP, the same can be said about nearly every consumer product available. Why buy Nikes? They're more expensive, don't protect your feet better than other shoes, and were made with child labour. Almost anything that is non essential to life can be claimed to be worthless.

If it is the actual "function" of diamonds that are worthless when in personal possession, I must point out that the refractory properties can one day save your life from a laser beam attack.
 

Moonlight Butterfly

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disgruntledgamer said:
Moonlight Butterfly said:
I just think they are really pretty. In my opinion a lady should always wear jewellery that compliments her eyes.
That wasn't really the point, but I take it your eyes are blue like mine? I have little to no fashion sense so I have no idea what compliments blue other than maybe....Blue?
Yeah mine are blue but they are admittedly more like turquoise than the straight up blue the tanzanite is. :)
 

disgruntledgamer

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Moonlight Butterfly said:
Yeah mine are blue but they are admittedly more like turquoise than the straight up blue the tanzanite is. :)
Isn't that more green? Mine are just really dark blue so I have no clue.
 

Moonlight Butterfly

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disgruntledgamer said:
Moonlight Butterfly said:
Yeah mine are blue but they are admittedly more like turquoise than the straight up blue the tanzanite is. :)
Isn't that more green? Mine are just really just dark blue so I have no clue.
light blue/green.

This is turquoise.

 

TimeLord

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Diamonds are very important to my life, they make very useful items like weapons and tools;



And armour;

 

Starik20X6

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I hope my hypothetical future wife will not want one, and would rather I spent the money on something more practical. My parents both have plain silver rings, and I hope to continue that tradition. If she must have something fancy, I hope it's something like this [http://img.wonderhowto.com/img/06/07/63409634175775/0/lego-wedding-rings.w654.jpg].
 

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dumbseizure said:
Saying you won't buy a diamond because of those reasons would be like saying you won't use a bank because one of them has been caught up in a scandal of funding terrorism and money laundering for the Mexican drug cartels. [http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2184657/British-banks-links-global-terror-US-accuses-Standard-Chartered-laundering-billions-Iran-Hezbollah.html]

In other words, it is ridiculous.
I personally intend to stop storing my money in a bank fairly soon. I will still have an account as most employers won't use cash and buying things online would be difficult, but I will be storing my money in cash. The reason for this is that I do not trust large corporations.

OT: If I am ever in a position to be presenting rings to love interests, I will be using a much more personal touch.

Maybe something nerdy like this:





Or maybe something with a Celtic pattern:






Or possibly something with a more common stone such as quartz:





It is not the intrinsic value of the materials that matters, it is the sentimental value of the item that is important to me.
 

disgruntledgamer

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Moonlight Butterfly said:
disgruntledgamer said:
Moonlight Butterfly said:
Yeah mine are blue but they are admittedly more like turquoise than the straight up blue the tanzanite is. :)
Isn't that more green? Mine are just really just dark blue so I have no clue.
light blue/green.

This is turquoise.
So like an aqua color. Mine kinda look like this
Not my actual eye btw.
 

Moonlight Butterfly

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disgruntledgamer said:
Moonlight Butterfly said:
disgruntledgamer said:
Moonlight Butterfly said:
Yeah mine are blue but they are admittedly more like turquoise than the straight up blue the tanzanite is. :)
Isn't that more green? Mine are just really just dark blue so I have no clue.
light blue/green.

This is turquoise.
So like an aqua color. Mine kinda look like this
Not my actual eye btw.
Yeah pretty much that colour I think mine are a lot lighter though