Poll: Do Graphics Really Matter?

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cardinalwiggles

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graphics are the mainstay of any game it helps to create emmersion and a sense of realism without good graphics as they can be very useful to tell storeys and relay the gameplay,
hence all our games would be 2D scrollers like pacman and will find it hard to create a storey without masses of text
 

Sheamus

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graphics matter to an extent. graphics need to be there to support, and not to hinder, the rest of the game. In older generations developers had to work around the limitations of consoles, and were still able to make great games.

though I think as time passes on the standards of what is graphically unappealing are getting ever higher and higher. Take myself as an example, the NES was the first console/games hat I ever played, and anything before that, arcade games, commodore, Atari, all those games generally look like total rubbish to me and I've hardly played any games older than the NES.
 

Hazy

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lava_lamp said:
xxhazyshadowsxx said:
But for my contribution: Graphics don't make a game. This is proven by Final Fantasy 7, one of the most popular RPG's of all time, which is 13 years old and still sold 100,000 copies on PSN within a week.

the only reason it sold that well is nostalgia
Or because People really like Final Fantasy 7's Cast.
 

1337mokro

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Well I really cannot agree less with you, some of the most hyped up graphics and cut scene farting wonders like MGS4, Killzone2, God of War are the LEAST immersive games EVER TO BE CREATED.

If immersion was depended on graphics how come I am still totally immersed in old games like DEUS EX, Half Life and so on, to be honest they fucking hurt my eyes till they bleed but it is worth it.

But here is Killzone 2 graphics up the bum spouting out cut scenes from the mouth and I just keep asking myself, why am I fighting a ground war? Why am I not bombing the shit out of this planet? Why am I sent down to the ground to invade a city while I could have just been dropped straight down into the palace, why are we fighting such a costly attrition war when we have a billion space ships in orbit that could take out enemy installations from across the galaxy?

Now because people spent most of those years hyping on graphics they totally forgot the story. PoP another casualty in the Graphics versus story battle, years of developping an art style which would have looked sweet if the gameplay didn't annoy you so much you'd rather play through the game to see the ending, which is completely out of your hands and undoes ALL the things you worked for playing the game by a decision YOU the player would never make in a beautiful and immersion shattering gameplay-cutscene.

The fact is story and gameplay can safe any game, how many Zelda's have been laid out in front of us, but it is still fine because the story is sort of different each time and graphics didn't even change a pixel for like 3-4 games and they still sold. We just get a peek more into a fantastic world that will hopefully evolve further the next time we come back. The fact that God of War sold is not immersion, nor graphics, it was violence, button mashing evil violence. The fact that Kratos had no social blocker of the amount of pain he could dish out or how big an ass he could be made God of War sell, I will never forget the Captain he pushed down a hydra's throat after taking his amulet before using him as a stepping stone to prevent falling into Hades.

That is another IMPORTANT part of making a game, character development. Most characters now are either American or stupid, this presents a problem to the rest of the world who can relate to neither. When the prince spouted of in his American accent I quickly lost interest in him as a character. But when Kratos did it it was OK because he talked in a slightly accented American plus we have an ancient story NARRATOR which explains WHY everything is English, we are seeing a retelling.

It is Story and Gameplay (and characters) that drive games not graphics. The sooner developers realise that having new graphics is cool, we like seeing our hero's look more and more like us, but when it is graphics over gameplay be prepared not to get my money.
 

lava_lamp

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xxhazyshadowsxx said:
lava_lamp said:
xxhazyshadowsxx said:
But for my contribution: Graphics don't make a game. This is proven by Final Fantasy 7, one of the most popular RPG's of all time, which is 13 years old and still sold 100,000 copies on PSN within a week.

the only reason it sold that well is nostalgia
Or because People really like Final Fantasy 7's Cast.
yea i just cant stand FF7 because of all the angst
 

Cuniculus

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Yes, they matter. If a game looks like shit in the previews, chances are you'll never pick it up to try it in the first place. So really, if it doesn't at least look decent, you'll never get to the gameplay.

Also, I can't play games like FFVII because of how shitty the graphics are. I have heard countless times how it is the best game ever... but I can't bring myself to get through it.
 

Hazy

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lava_lamp said:
xxhazyshadowsxx said:
lava_lamp said:
xxhazyshadowsxx said:
But for my contribution: Graphics don't make a game. This is proven by Final Fantasy 7, one of the most popular RPG's of all time, which is 13 years old and still sold 100,000 copies on PSN within a week.

the only reason it sold that well is nostalgia
Or because People really like Final Fantasy 7's Cast.
yea i just cant stand FF7 because of all the angst
I can't stand it because it gets much more praise than it deserves.
But I'm not trying to insight a flamewar, so I'll just leave it at that.
 
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I think the one game that proves that graphics don't matter is the first Operation: Flashpoint. The graphics were truly awful, but I didn't care a damn, because playing the damn thing made me squee when I'd done something truly awesome (and you feel even more awesome because of the fact it is so easy to get killed, which is why most games should do that).
 

GOATOFRAGE

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i like a game that looks good, as does everyone though they wont admit it
but obv gameplay and story are more important
look at infamous, has good gameplay and a good story but the graphics are not as good as other recent titles, and yet its still a great game
 

Atomsforpeace

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I think that a good art direction (not outright photo-realistic graphics) is important in how immersed you find yourself in a game. Examples of this would be anything from WOW to Plants Vs. Zombies I guess...
 

HAVERSHA

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Game play and Story are the most important, but good graphics improve the feel and atmosphere of the game itself.
 

pantallica95

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graphics help with the immersion factor, but no one should sacrifice game features for graphics. But to me everything on XBox 360 and Ps3 look beautiful. I own a Wii. I am not used to good graphics (-_-)
 

R.O.

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Game play is not as important as graphics, length, re playability, story, and plot pacing. Most games play the same. There aren't many ways you can play a game. Sure it might look different on the screen, but you still have to use a controller. The Wii has different game play but sacrifices everything else which is sad because Nintendo used to be smarter than that. Having a 10-15 hour Mario game is not fun, it's a tedious bore.

Graphics are so important that I can't play a game unless it has some stellar graphics. Hands down the game with the best graphics is Metal Gear Solid 4. If that game had crap graphics, I wouldn't had been able to get through it. Also the story, plot pacing, optional length, extra features, and re playability make MGS4 a classic. Gameplay is the same as it was years ago, simple and easy.

The main reason why I can't get into the Wii is that the focus on gameplay is a trick that makes you look stupid if you fall for it. Gameplay? Dude on the screen, the characters do the same things they did years ago like jump, run, and hit stuff. And then the graphics suck, the length is the same, most of their games have no story or plot, and re playability is gonna be crappy if the graphics suck cause why would I want to look at it? If you are a cheap bastard, then go play that Wii. It's like smoking weed.
 

yankeefan19

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I say that graphics are important, but they don't make the game. There are games i enjoy that have crappy graphics, like many online games.