Poll: Do people even WANT sex in their video games?

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I am of the opinion of "I don't mind/Ooh sex with hotchick, awesome"

The Madman said:
I still have nightmares of those cringey puppet sex scenes from Dragon Age: Origins. If a games plot finds sex absolutely necessary, then fade to black is perfectly fine thanks... although I do have to admit the goddamned unicorn in Witcher 3 was a scene of beauty.

Saints Row 4 also had the surprisingly touching Kinzie romance.


So I guess they're not all bad, just mostly bad. Kinda like in TV and movies now that I think about it.
If you think Dragon Age Origins' sex scenes as is looks like some cringy puppet sex, than you haven't seen the "Better" Sex Scenes mod.
 
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Ezekiel said:
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I don't, but not for any puritanical reasons or worry. Simply because they're always terribly written, horribly acted and animated like that scene from Team America.

Its just embarrassing, stops the game dead and gives those R34 channers too many ideas. And I think we can all agree, those are bad things.
This. Though, the scenes from Wolfenstein: The New Order were fine. They served a narrative purpose and didn't go over the top or show too much of the rigid bodies, unlike in the Witcher series, where you have sex with lots of random women and it's always there for fanservice.

Until developers animate the muscles and all the flesh (Never going to happen.), it's going to remain quite crappy for the most part.

I'd rather have sex games that are able to dedicate all their resources to the bodies and actual sex. But that's not going to happen either because no talented developer is going to go into the niche porn business.
The original Witcher game did it perfectly, where the actual scenes were like PG soap opera fade-outs, then you get those awesome conquest cards which were even uncensored in the Director's Cut.

Other than that, simply having attractive in-game NPCs in skimpy clothes with innuendo is about the limit imo. Like you said, it'll always end up looking/sounding awkward the more they try to push the boundary due to technical imperfections. Has there even been a realistic jiggle effect yet?
 

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I think story is overrated in videogames. So, I don't really care about sex scenes in games. The only ones that I came across are the God of War games. That was a fun diversion from the action. I forgotten about the sex scenes in Wolfenstein: The New Order. Until, I read this thread.

My biggest problem is with people who have a sex negative attitude. If a character, especially a female character, expresses any sexuality, people get upset with that. I have a problem with that. I think it's a negative, regressive attitude about sexuality.

Other than that, if you want to play a dating simulator, or a game that feature barely dressed characters. Go for it! If the game is any good, I might play them as well.
 

CritialGaming

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Sex sells.

I mean plain and simple. Sex sells.

Regardless of what your personal or moral stance on sex is, there is a fundamental human desire in all(most) of us for it. There is a reason why they use hot chicks to sell man's cologne, or most female video game armor is skimpier than a bathing suit. It sells.

I don't think it is the immaturity of the developers for creating this things in their games. And some developers even handle it rather well. But it is the immaturity of the buying public that dictates the continuation of sexual content included in video games. We buy it, people buy it, market research has shown that games featuring some forms of titillation do better than games than don't when the target audience is the same. This actually applies to most products. Fast food, feminine products, body wash, you name it and they use sex to sell it.

And honestly I don't think that it is a bad thing. Sex, when done well, in films, video games, books, etc, can be very engaging and fit the given media. What we should be looking at is a bit more care given to sex when included in a video game. People have been asking for more LBGT inclusion, so what about love scenes featuring LBGT characters? If handled tastefully, it can greatly enhance a players connection to a set of characters.

We should encourage good sexual content. Not fan service and cheesy titillation for the sake of it.

Honestly more Witcher 3 and far far far far far far less Ride to Hell: REtibution.
 

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Personally I'd like to see it done well all over the spectrum, and I feel like not wanting them at all is throwing out the baby with the bathwater. Yeah, most of the attempts out there have been pathetic, but I still feel like there's something to be done with the concept.
 

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Nope. It always looks bloody stupid. Like mashing two barbies against each other while making boom noises with your mouth.

I'd be fine for it to be included for narrative purposes, but it's typically just used for fanservice.
 

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Ezekiel said:
I wonder what people would think of a female witcher who has as much promiscuous sex as Geralt in TW2.
EQUALITY! :D

Honestly I like the Witcher series because the sex in those games isn't like a reward for X amount of goals achieved. Especially inn the Witcher 3. It is no reward, you can just go have sex whenever you want. Like the game doesn't make a big deal about it. It's there if you want it, but it doesn't direct you too it. I think you can even beat the entire game without ever getting laid, but I would never do that.....chaste Geralt is angry Geralt and angry Geralt kills people. Well.....more people.
 

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In certain games I kinda like it. Like the Witcher 2 and 3. Though it still looks awkward with how it's animated. In most games though, no thanks. Not needed. A simple fade to black would do if you really want to put it in, but it's not needed. A big problem in a lot of games also, is that it feels forced. Like it's there for the sake of it, rather than for actual character or plot development.
 

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I voted "No", not because I'm sex-negative but because I'm sex-annoyed. I hate how it seems like 90% of fiction has some kind of romantic sub-plot when really only about 35% benefit from it and to me that extends to video games. Gears of War didn't need to match up Marcus with Anya and it didn't need us to see Dom's wife being killed when it's so strongly implied that she's already dead (Cole and Baird were a pretty cute couple though so 2 out of 3 isn't terrible). I really liked the first Star Wars: The Force Unleashed and I loved how that could have been a platform from which to launch an anthology of action-based games where you control new/obscure Jedi or Sith who are let loose upon the Galaxy to wreck shit. It didn't have a great story but it was good enough for a sequel...and it was a direct sequel...about a romantic subplot that had to be invented because there was no chemistry between Juno Eclipse and Starkiller's corpse but that didn't stop Lucasarts from forcing a garbage romance-based, direct sequel to happen.

Even when they're not freaking awful though, unless I'm playing a dating sim or something else that's HEAVILY story driven I don't want to see sex or romance in the games I play...unless it's used to comedic effect.
 
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There's so much fan artwork with just about any moderately to super attractive character that it's unnecessary anyway.

I can appreciate sex appeal in games, like an attractive character or even some mild in-character flirtation, but I don't get very much from sex scenes themselves in video games.

Like I said though, if I wanted to see a character naked, I could just google it and get hundreds of results, likely multitudes better than what could have been forced into the game itself.

I like VN's that have it though. I don't think it needs to be as prevalent or as forced to sell copies, but I don't mind picking one up for my own...enjoyment now and again.
 

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I voted fade to black but heavily implied works too. I'm not really a fan of full on sex scenes in fiction. Obviously sex is a part of life so including people having sex is fine. But actually witnessing people having sex I find rarely adds anything to the story and generally feels gratuitous and unnecessary. If I want to see people having sex I'll watch porn.
 
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KissingSunlight said:
I think story is overrated in videogames. So, I don't really care about sex scenes in games. The only ones that I came across are the God of War games. That was a fun diversion from the action. I forgotten about the sex scenes in Wolfenstein: The New Order. Until, I read this thread.

My biggest problem is with people who have a sex negative attitude. If a character, especially a female character, expresses any sexuality, people get upset with that. I have a problem with that. I think it's a negative, regressive attitude about sexuality.

Other than that, if you want to play a dating simulator, or a game that feature barely dressed characters. Go for it! If the game is any good, I might play them as well.
Yeah I kinda forgot about those. They were kept pretty tongue-in-cheek with the act being offscreen while some playful eye candy compliments the sounds. This is an example of sex that fits within the game world well enough to avoid being awkward.
 
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Ezekiel said:
CritialGaming said:
Ezekiel said:
I wonder what people would think of a female witcher who has as much promiscuous sex as Geralt in TW2.
EQUALITY! :D

Honestly I like the Witcher series because the sex in those games isn't like a reward for X amount of goals achieved. Especially inn the Witcher 3. It is no reward, you can just go have sex whenever you want. Like the game doesn't make a big deal about it. It's there if you want it, but it doesn't direct you too it. I think you can even beat the entire game without ever getting laid, but I would never do that.....chaste Geralt is angry Geralt and angry Geralt kills people. Well.....more people.
I don't get why all those incredibly sexy women even fall for this stoic, emotionless mutant. But yes, TW3 was slightly better at this, thanks to his lover Yennefer.

Well then there's Dandelion, who also gets laid lol. I think the Witcher women are intrigued by Gerald because of his Witcher status, and he's "manly" on a B-Cell level even. He never forces himself either, so the women appreciate that.
 

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So long as they make the scene...They make all scenes skippable I couldn't really give a fuck.
 

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Why isn't there an "all of above" option? And why are the title, the poll and the OP content not related with each other? Before saying sex itself isn't mature, you should research examples of movies and literature that handle sex in a mature manner.
 

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If the adult sections on Nexusmods are any indication, there are indeed people who want to see sex in their video games.
 
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Meh. I don't particularly have a problem with sex. Don't even have to be mature about it, just make sure it fits the tone of the game. Don't just pop in a sex scene just because.

Romance, or relationships, on the other hand, need to die in a fire. Particularly because most games have two characters fall in love just to kill one, usually the female, in an attempt to get some quick cheap rise out of the player. I can hardly get invested in relationships anymore. As soon as I see a love interest the first thing that comes to mind is "Huh. I wonder when she's going to die."
 

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Reason 1: It's Boring
Have you ever watched a kissing scene where you felt nothing for the romance, or worse it was gross, like something from PrankInvasion? Now imagine sitting through even a 1 minute sex scene. Now I've played many a VN, and I could probably count the number of ones with sex scenes with two hands, maybe a foot. Yet I've only played one or two, which I actually read through and thought, "yes Sir Elton John, I can feel the love tonight." Basically, if it ain't your waifu, chances are you won't care.
I think this really depends on the story and game as to whether its boring. Sex isn't just there to arouse you and titillate you. When it is... Most people don't care whether its their Waifu or not TBH. Porn exists for a reason, and most people I know don't just watch one actress and get bored when she's not in their porn; they get aroused by the sex itself, and the attractive bodies, whether its their waifu or not.
If the player is meant to feel an emotional bond with that character personally - then sure, it can be boring. If it is supposed to show an emotional bond between two characters, whether one is the one the player is playing {Which is a separate entity from the player themselves; you are you, the character on the screen can be a stand in for you, or can be their own character} or not, then it doesn't need to engage the player themselves on a personally emotional level, and is much easier to be non-boring.
You bring up GoT, and much as people don't rave about the sex scenes, I don't think I've heard it said "OMG those sex scenes are so boring" either. They fit the world, and the characters, and tell us things about them. They're not prudishly holding back because some viewers might be embarrassed, or trying to make a kids show - they're just showing their world, and that level of genuineness tends to be appreciated by viewers [That said it can go past that sometimes, but that's another conversation].

Reason 2: Most are Unnecessary
Since VNs probably have the most sex, I'll be talking about those I've read threads on VN sites discussing whether sex was necessary in VNs, and the response is yes, but some are unnecessary. However, if you use the word "necessary", you might as well ask "Would you choose between having sex scenes or not having sex scenes?" Obviously the answer would be, I'd rather have sex scenes, because there is one I like or may like. Still, it's basically if it ain't your waifu, you won't care.
I'm picking the main reason you've got a lot of your opinion is because you are basing it primarily of Eroge. Lets be honest here, a lot of Eroge is fan service, with a main character that is just a stand in for the player, trying to arouse the player sexually and act as porn, often unnecessarily for its plot. Now, this isn't an exclusive truth, there are some truly great eroge and VNs out there, but a lot of them are just glorified porn. When you're focusing on glorified porn, yeah, a lot of the sex is going to be unnecessary. You're looking at the wrong sort of genre for that.
See what I said about GoT above for when it can be 'necessary' to have a sex scene, or at least more detrimental to leave it out. Games naturally have their own considerations to worry about too, but by and large the rule ends up pretty similar.

Reason 3: It's Too Much
Honestly kissing and hugging is more than enough to convey a sense of romance. Being sexually aroused is distracting, to say the least. If a video game is good enough to be porn to do you know what, then you want to do you know what.

For whatever reason, I found softcore scenes to be more romantic than hardcore scenes.
Again, see what I said about GoT. Some of it isn't meant to sexually arouse you, but to build the world, and kissing and hugging in a world of excess, brutality and animal instinct tends to come off as fake, and contrast with the tone more than agree with it - I.E: Its detrimental to only go half way. Again, depends on the game, but hey.

Reason 4: Humans are Sex-Negative
Besides humans, name me a animal that has sex and masturbates in private. I think the shame of sex is universal. The word "awkward" is frequently when used to describe sex scenes, perfectly describing a faux pas. Some of us are different, but generally, we don't like sex and sexuality in public situations. At least, we avoid bringing it up with randoms.
This is just your own personal bias. Imma guess you're either being brought up in a quite conservative or Christian area, or are 30+ years old. Sex is nowhere near the taboo subject it once was, and a lot of the younger generation don't have too much problem with talking sex, to be entirely honest. Now, kinkiness and fetishes are still a bit awkward for most, but being able to say you had sex, or you jerk it at night, or TBH even a lot of flirting with some BDSM vibes can be quite acceptable. It is far from a universal shame, that's just a cultural thing in certain areas and demographics [Especially in America]. "Awkward" is used when describing sex scenes, because they tend to not be natural. They tend to try and do the just "hugging and kissing", or softcore sort of thing, and it just looks awkward because we all know that's not what sex is like. See Dragon Age; Origins and its weird sex scenes that really were just awkward, not the least of which was because they were all just grinding against each other while still wearing underpants. Again, I haven't heard anyone call GoTs sex scenes "Awkward". They're just kind of there, they're part of the world and story. There's nothing shameful about that.

tl;dr
Video game sex will never mature because sex isn't mature at all. What people think is mature is basically a bunch of people implicitly agreeing X is tasteful and you nodding your head.
What people think of as mature is not being ashamed of what you are, but also not to take it too far in excess. It isn't mature to have a basic PG romantic story, and halfway through there's this outrageous R18+ full sex kink show going on. That's simply fanservice a lot of the time.
But likewise it isn't mature to take something like Game of Thrones, and insist on everyone just hugging and kissing in their clothes on screen because we're too ashamed of the oldest and most common of human expressions of intimacy.

Mature is knowing what suits the story you're telling, and the medium, and following through on that. If you're making a more tasteful narrative, then yeah, mature is going to be tasteful. If you're making a narrative about excess and exaggeration, your sex scenes are going to be anything but tasteful.

Sex is in no way immature. Its the attitudes that our cultures built towards sex in the lead up to the 20th century that is immature. Those cultural attitudes are slowly shifting, however, and sex is becoming a more and more accepted part of our shared culture, and more people are realising that it is nothing to be ashamed of, but also not something to be implicitly proud of. It simply is what it is.