No, politics and religion are far more harmful. How many wars have started because of games (flame wars not included) and how many have started because of politics/religion?
i completely agree here, though you can't ignore the fact that there HAVE been cases where the videogame in question was the cause of what happenedGeekmaster K said:I've heard of many cases where someone stupid will actually carry out what he does in-game, and in those cases, it's not the game's fault, but the person who did it. Sadly, the non-gaming politicians ALWAYS blame video games for this, even if the game itself was unrelated. For example, little Jimmy brings a gun to school, shoots a teacher and a couple of students, and then shoots himself. The police and lawyers in the case find out that he was a gamer, and they immediately blame video games on the shooting, then try and find some way to get a law passed to ban a certain game or video games in general. They completely ignore the fact that he had a dysfunctional home life, his parents were getting a divorce, he had no friends and was picked on all the time at school, the teachers at the school did nothing about him being picked on, etc. Instead of looking at these factors, they blame it on the video games, and ruin everything for people who AREN'T screwed up.
This is why I'm thankful for the Wii despite Nintendo's casual gaming shift. Getting older people into gaming through this console may help them understand that video games are not inherently evil.
I have to agree, I think that perhaps games don't make some people commit violent acts but instead give them ideas on how they can perform them...if that makes sense to you?Jharry5 said:No, I think games don't cause violence. I think that the perpetrators of 'video game violence' had the tendancy towards violent acts in them before they picked up a controller. Me and all of my friends that play violent video games have never commited an act of violence. I know I never would be able to, and I severely doubt that they would. It's just not who I am.
It seems to me that the authorities rely on games as a scapegoat for violence; they also forget that violence/violent crime has many different causes...
I doubt that any sort of violent media has a noticable affect on anyone who didn't already have underlying pschological problems.
Indeed, I agree with these two.xmetatr0nx said:Me likey you...oliveira8 said:Are Video Games Harmful?Yes they are. In the hands of stupid people. Can we do something about stupid people? Yes we can. What? Kill the stupid people...or keep the stupid people from playing games. I like the first option better.
Also yes, have you seen 2/3 of the population of this site? I would say thats pretty damn harmful. Go get some fresh air you dateless....ill stop there to be kind...
Yes, that makes sense.Archetypal_Maniac said:I have to agree, I think that perhaps games don't make some people commit violent acts but instead give them ideas on how they can perform them...if that makes sense to you?Jharry5 said:No, I think games don't cause violence. I think that the perpetrators of 'video game violence' had the tendancy towards violent acts in them before they picked up a controller. Me and all of my friends that play violent video games have never commited an act of violence. I know I never would be able to, and I severely doubt that they would. It's just not who I am.
It seems to me that the authorities rely on games as a scapegoat for violence; they also forget that violence/violent crime has many different causes...
I doubt that any sort of violent media has a noticable affect on anyone who didn't already have underlying pschological problems.
For example the kid who suffocated his friend with the plastic bag after playing manhunt, I am of the opinion that this kid has a mental issue and was likely to kill or commit acts of violence, however I don't think he would have suffocated his friend like that if he hadn't played manhunt.
If a person is psycho enough to kill somebody then there going to get inspiration fromJharry5 said:Yes, that makes sense.Archetypal_Maniac said:I have to agree, I think that perhaps games don't make some people commit violent acts but instead give them ideas on how they can perform them...if that makes sense to you?Jharry5 said:No, I think games don't cause violence. I think that the perpetrators of 'video game violence' had the tendancy towards violent acts in them before they picked up a controller. Me and all of my friends that play violent video games have never commited an act of violence. I know I never would be able to, and I severely doubt that they would. It's just not who I am.
It seems to me that the authorities rely on games as a scapegoat for violence; they also forget that violence/violent crime has many different causes...
I doubt that any sort of violent media has a noticable affect on anyone who didn't already have underlying pschological problems.
For example the kid who suffocated his friend with the plastic bag after playing manhunt, I am of the opinion that this kid has a mental issue and was likely to kill or commit acts of violence, however I don't think he would have suffocated his friend like that if he hadn't played manhunt.
I remember hearing about the Manhunt case. The media made a big fuss about the content of the game (which, if I'm not mistaken, he was too young to legally play anyway), but neglected to say whether he'd had a history of bad behaviour. There's that media scapegoating again...
I agree with your last sentence, as it isn't what could be classed as a 'usual' act of violence.
Well this is the natural elaboration on my first point, we are inspired by media. Media as a general term, in this case the media was a game. However I am all for games but due to his young age and his exposure to this game, do you feel that if perhaps this content was with-held from him, his issue could have been shown in a less fatal way and help could have been offered which would have resulted in the survival of the young boy? Just a thought and something to dwell upon from what I said in my first post in this topic, media can have a negative or positive influence on a person, and the same piece of media can have both a positive and negative effect on different people.omega 616 said:If a person is psycho enough to kill somebody then there going to get inspiration fromJharry5 said:Yes, that makes sense.Archetypal_Maniac said:I have to agree, I think that perhaps games don't make some people commit violent acts but instead give them ideas on how they can perform them...if that makes sense to you?Jharry5 said:No, I think games don't cause violence. I think that the perpetrators of 'video game violence' had the tendancy towards violent acts in them before they picked up a controller. Me and all of my friends that play violent video games have never commited an act of violence. I know I never would be able to, and I severely doubt that they would. It's just not who I am.
It seems to me that the authorities rely on games as a scapegoat for violence; they also forget that violence/violent crime has many different causes...
I doubt that any sort of violent media has a noticable affect on anyone who didn't already have underlying pschological problems.
For example the kid who suffocated his friend with the plastic bag after playing manhunt, I am of the opinion that this kid has a mental issue and was likely to kill or commit acts of violence, however I don't think he would have suffocated his friend like that if he hadn't played manhunt.
I remember hearing about the Manhunt case. The media made a big fuss about the content of the game (which, if I'm not mistaken, he was too young to legally play anyway), but neglected to say whether he'd had a history of bad behaviour. There's that media scapegoating again...
I agree with your last sentence, as it isn't what could be classed as a 'usual' act of violence.
anywhere.
Just about anything can be used to kill, so if they never saw a horror film or manhunt there still going to use something to kill if thats what they have set there mind on.
I don't think the columbine massacre was down to call of duty or medal of honor.
Films can be just as much to blame for people getting hurt has any body seen the "devils rejects" directed by Rob zombie?
While I admit manhunt is amazingly graphic and so easy to recreate but 99.9% of people who will play that game will just enjoy the gore in the game.
The only time a game can cause harm is when you rage quit and the controller becomes a flying object.