Poll: Do you agree with the Black Ops Swastika Ban?
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look I believe that your both a bunch of idiots with to much time on your hands mankind has done some reaalllly stupid things but to argue about who was bad and who was worse is not something we should argue about they are both symbols that both have a negative meaning involved with them, aswell as a positive I just dont think that a freaking symbol in a game will influence an intellectual person and if it will change your though processes you have bigger problems
vilespartan231490 said:
1. Loathsome; disgusting: vile language.
2. Unpleasant or objectionable: vile weather. See Synonyms at offensive.
3. a. Contemptibly low in worth or account; second-rate.
b. Of mean or low condition.
4. Miserably poor and degrading; wretched: a vile existence.
5. Morally depraved; ignoble or wicked: a vile conspiracy.
I think that covers having a phallus as an emblem on Black Ops.
I don't know why you wanted me to define vile, though :|
Sure, it could also cover the Swastika, and a host of other images, but as long as the sexually explicite emblems are gone along with them, I don't care.
It's just a symbol. Wich has, just like the touthbrush mustash, become a taboo because of the actions of one imbicile, over 60 years ago. But I'm with the ban. It's still a touchy subject, people from ww2 are still alive after all.
He has a point, Charlie Chaplin's moustache is now seen not as his, but as the facial hair of a very silly little man with a funny walk. (hang on...)John the Gamer said:
My ideal fix for it would be that all players who disagree with the swastika, just make sure that they shoot anyone wearing one first whenever the choice arises. Same goes for any dumb penis or sexual emblems.
After a few months (I doubt these people are swift learners somehow), they may realise that it's their idiotic choice of badge that is making them a bullet magnet.
After all, in WOW, if I get someone being rude, arrogant, or otherwise irritating, but not enough to be worth kicking, they'll just get less priority healing, and if they so much as say 'gogogo' once, I can generally persuade the group to stand still for 10 seconds, purely to irritate him. I for one think, in group play, tactics, planning, and letting the healer get full mana is more important than finishing a dungeon 30 seconds faster.
Well if you ban the swastika you must ban all political and religious signs. LKet us not forget that the swastika is a symbol from eastern religions. No censoring. Unless the image is illegal in the first place let us have whatever we want as our emblem.
Some religious ones aren't drawn in different directions. they can be drawn facing clockwise or anti-clockwise. The Nazi one is always facing clockwise though.Nile McMorrow said:
EDIT: Oh and my above post was ninja'd
OMFG, seriously people what the fuck....I literally cannot believe the majority of people actually disagree with the decision to ban a symbol, which btw NONE- NONE of you would even consider using if it wasn't for the use by the Nazi's, thus empowering it for "shock value" or some shit like that, If it wasn't for the Nazi connotations the swastika wouldn't even be known to any of you, so don't even try to say "oooh its been around for years". The fact is its neither a particularly attractive symbol, or has any other meaning than those of great trauma for people all around the world, maybe xbox live are limiting free speech, but unless you are actually a Nazi, i think its one you can live without. Using the Swastika on your emblem is no better than all those people who choose to use other inappropriate images, in fact its worse as it has FUCKING GENOCIDAL CONNOTATIONS.
FFs all i mean to say is people should just use common sense, its alright to say your all for freedom of speech and against censorship, but that doesn't mean you have to abuse it just for kicks, because whatever anyone claims the only reason they would want to use a swastika is to "shock" people, and to be honest its not even that shocking its just offensive and uneccessary
Yeah perhaps it does have something to do with some religions, but even so its inappropriate, i think many Christians would be offended if they saw that someone had made an emblem of Jesus on the cross, no doubt many Jews would be offended if they saw someone using the Star of David, in a game where alot of graphic killing happens perhaps religious symbols are inappropriateYuriHellsing said:
FFs all i mean to say is people should just use common sense, its alright to say your all for freedom of speech and against censorship, but that doesn't mean you have to abuse it just for kicks, because whatever anyone claims the only reason they would want to use a swastika is to "shock" people, and to be honest its not even that shocking its just offensive and uneccessary
Im indifferent
I can see why people may be offeneded but i dont really care
especialy when the german level of zombies (cant remember the name) is full of swastika's and nazi's
I can see why people may be offeneded but i dont really care
especialy when the german level of zombies (cant remember the name) is full of swastika's and nazi's
Bottom line is that 'Conditions of Use' override any moral agree/disagree arguments; Activision determines what they let you do in the game once you clicked that 'I Agree' button before installing the game. As such arguments about freedom of speech are meaningless in this context. The only meaningful discussion point is personal feeling towards motivations for Activision decision.
Yes. a good 80% of the people doing it are pretty much going "Haha look I made a Swastika."
Same thing goes for the penises and all the other garbage people are using in the emblem system. Honestly would have been a much better idea to just have preloaded ones that you had to pick from. Would have saved everyone a lot of headaches...
Same thing goes for the penises and all the other garbage people are using in the emblem system. Honestly would have been a much better idea to just have preloaded ones that you had to pick from. Would have saved everyone a lot of headaches...
I would save the effort. Lamenting a double standard will get you nowhere slowly. If you want to throw the hypocrite stone, you might as well throw in the symbols associated with the US, the UK, France, Spain, Italy, China, Japan. . . more or less any nation that has existed for a few hundred years. Nations have a way of acquiring a lot of blood on the hands in the course of history.Iwata said:
The problem with banning certain signs and pictures is that you then have to carry it on and be consistent which is going to be difficult due to the amount of manpower it would require. The other difficulty is the fact that certain symbols aren't legally allowed to be used. If i recall correctly this is true for the swastika in Germany, hence why if you play a german version of a ww2 game all the logos are removed, it's an offence to display the logo. I only believe that bans should be carried out for items of legal dispute.
People love controversy so of course they will use the swastika as a joke. It's not right though and they love to point out the first amendment arguement too. This is not covered by that at all. The swastika is offensive and they know it.