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mm2publish

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How soon we forget! That was the same attitude Metallica had for MTV just a few short years before we started seeing them on MTV!
 

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Grilled Cheesus said:
Meh. The man sounds like every other asshole who goes on and on about how mainstream is killing the industry.
All I can say is. You have nothing to fear man. Glee would never, ever, ever bother having no name crap like Gorillas on their show.
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Grilled Cheesus said:
Meh. The man sounds like every other asshole who goes on and on about how mainstream is killing the industry.
All I can say is. You have nothing to fear man. Glee would never, ever, ever bother having no name crap like Gorillas on their show.

Besides. As someone else has already said. Fuckers music is already on guitar hero and rock band... he aint got a moral leg to stand on. Hes probably just pissed off since he approached the Glee producers and they rejected him.
Yes, they are much to busy redefining paradigms and thinking outside the box with Rocky Horror...
 

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I see his point, but the world changed. You could write and compose the most amazing song and people won't even lend an ear to listen to a verse, compared to a cheap imitation of a popular song x by singer y.
 

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He has talent. He doesn't want his music being used on some overhyped, silly, high school musical esc piece of shit that is Glee. The man has integrity, and loves what he does. So fuck you mainstream media. You will never get your seething fangs of homogenization into him!
 

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Mordwyl said:
I see his point, but the world changed. You could write and compose the most amazing song and people won't even lend an ear to listen to a verse, compared to a cheap imitation of a popular song x by singer y.
It's always been like that. "Art" designed to appeal to the lowest common denominator is always going to outshine other types of media.
 

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Will someone please explain what the fuck Glee is to me? I know its a TV show marketed to high school age girls and so is probably shit but that is the total extent of my knowledge.
 

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Canid117 said:
Will someone please explain what the fuck Glee is to me? I know its a TV show marketed to high school age girls and so is probably shit but that is the total extent of my knowledge.
Its kind of like a self-aware highschool musical sitcom....
 

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Canid117 said:
Will someone please explain what the fuck Glee is to me? I know its a TV show marketed to high school age girls and so is probably shit but that is the total extent of my knowledge.
It's a show about a high school Glee club, where they sing songs. I saw one episode because I was busy downstairs and my sister was watching it. They did a cover of Sweet Transvestite with fat black american girl instead of skinny white british guy singing and it was from fantastic transilvania instead of transexual transilvania. Also OMG, they had John Stamos and he was sooooooooo hunky xoxo ;).
OT: I think the music industry (this does not mean that I think that all of todays music is shit, rather the buisness and practices)is kind of going into the shitter and they're doing this kind of stuff to try and make money to compensate for pirates. But then I suppose there are some guys who refuse to do this stuff which is good. I really wish he would write it with an "s" instead of a "z".
 

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I don't know about all this...

I'm not saying he's wrong, or even that I disagree with him, but... he comes across as an incredibly arrogant prima donna.

Sacman said:
And this video makes me wonder if that might actually be what he is.
 

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Substance-E said:
Mordwyl said:
I see his point, but the world changed. You could write and compose the most amazing song and people won't even lend an ear to listen to a verse, compared to a cheap imitation of a popular song x by singer y.
It's always been like that. "Art" designed to appeal to the lowest common denominator is always going to outshine other types of media.
Some of the most successful art broke tradition and strayed far from the LCD. Good examples would be the Monty Python comedy group, the One Piece manga, the Watchmen comic to even Jazz and Rock genre of music.

Time itself has no power over what people like, but that doesn't mean you cannot challenge the norm and give birth to something differently outstanding. As a personal talk with David Lloyd (V for Vendetta fame) taught me was that commitment, skill and luck are what bring you success.
 

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Grilled Cheesus said:
Meh. The man sounds like every other asshole who goes on and on about how mainstream is killing the industry.
All I can say is. You have nothing to fear man. Glee would never, ever, ever bother having no name crap like Gorillas on their show.
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Allow me to interject on your behalf. Damon Albarn when blur was his sole focus of income turned down $2 million for the track "Song 2" to be used by the American air force due to them being jingoistic arseholes. His exploration of American music and desire to work with Alan Moore offered very little financial incentive. At the height of Blur's success and the success of "Brit Pop" he took Blur in a radically different direction to the post-modern critique of working class british culture and created an album with a focus upon blur's relationship with America, a decidedly uncommercial move comparable to Radiohead's Kid A (yes Kid A was a suprise success but it was not anticipated).

Glee would put anything on the show that would shift more units and create more ad revenue, I think Damon Albarn is a feirce inrellectual who has managed to stay relevent for almost twenty years now, that is not to say his music couldn't be appropriatted and put as background music to the homogonised conservative setting of Glee or any of its ilk.

GC, Simon Cowell is on the phone he would like to give you an advanced copy of the xmas No 1.
 

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Substance-E said:
If they do it is still the actual song, not some silly musical rehash of it.
It still flies in the face of the whole "develop your own identity" thing.

crudus said:
TV shows tend to take a lot of liberties when putting music on air. They remix it, edit it in various ways, etc. In Rockband, you still have the song in its entirety the way it was meant to be played and heard (also, can't people make their own songs anyway?). Besides, I wouldn't want my art to be associated with Glee regardless.
Rock Band and Guitar Hero remix, edit, and sometimes alter the way the song plays. To argue this is "how they were meant to be played" is fairly incorrect, and certainly heard in different methods than intended. I doubt many of these artists intended their music to be karaoke, but since Rock Band hit, they are or can be. By definition, they're taking liberties.

I'm not sure what being able to make your own songs has to do with it. I'm guessing it's related to the identity comment, but it's only available in some titles, limited, frequently used to remake copyrighted material, and hardly the main draw to the genre. The genre is more or less about living a vicarious rock fantasy, which is about as much your identity as watching characters on TV. Rock Band Network also has the option, but that's off-limits without additional material and not designed for public use (just public consumption, when the tracks become commercially available).

If I did miss another reason the music editor options are brought up, I apologise. But as far as changing the games from a medium of rock fantasy/karoke/party title into something more creative, not really close. And while the new "Pro Mode" in Rock Band 3 does change things up a little, Gorillaz were in Guitar Hero 5 (?) and as DLC while Rock Band 2 was the current title, so it hardly makes a difference with respect to his comments.