Poll: Do you believe in the "below the belt" rule?
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The first thing I would do in ANY fight is to break the collarbone of the person I'm fighting. Pretty much the most effective tactic there is, will make one side of the body useless, inflict an uncontrollable amount of pain (broken collarbone ALWAYS (almost) results in a dislocated shoulder), and it is super easy to do on anyone, since the collarbone is quite fragile and badly protected.
Collarbones is like the "Do not press this"-button, from kids shows bad-guy bases. An easy out, instant win.
Collarbones is like the "Do not press this"-button, from kids shows bad-guy bases. An easy out, instant win.
The idea of fighting 'fairly' and 'with honour' seems pretty ridiculous. People who start fights in the main pick targets they can beat. Where's the honour in that? Not to mention the lack of honour in attacking people you disagree with or for a slight. Even fear of escalation only goes so far, in a bar it may apply but in an alley with a gangbanger etiquette basically means whenever he decides to stop.
Since I'm a male, I'd probably follow through it, just because I can sympathize with his groin being smashed to a pulp by my strong kick.
A woman, however, could not, and I'd have strong, hateful feelings towards any girl who would attempt such a lowly kick.
Why, you ask? Because, I can't accept someone having absolutely no fucking respect for things that ought to have deep respect.
A mans jewels are two of them. Once you fully respect them, which is kind of impossible for a woman to do, you are allowed to draw the kick. Period.
A woman, however, could not, and I'd have strong, hateful feelings towards any girl who would attempt such a lowly kick.
Why, you ask? Because, I can't accept someone having absolutely no fucking respect for things that ought to have deep respect.
A mans jewels are two of them. Once you fully respect them, which is kind of impossible for a woman to do, you are allowed to draw the kick. Period.
Personally, I rarely fight, but I'm a nasty when I do, so there's that.kortin said:
Even in that mindset, though, I look to absolutely incapacitate someone as quickly as possible and make damned sure they're out cold and/or not getting back up to come after me again. Kick between the legs really doesn't guarantee that (although, it WILL hurt).
Short answer, no. There's so many better ways to drop someone and be damned certain they won't bother you again (that night, as per the scenario).
Long answer...if someone pressed me to the point that I felt forced to fight, I'm in a totally different mindset, and most likely wouldn't be above it.
Note: I specified between the legs for a reason. There's nothing wrong or unreasonable with aiming for the legs.
Sometimes, you're forced to make the distinction between being a "*****" or a corpse.Sejs Cube said:
Horsing around with your friends when you're plastered? Agreed.
Someone attacking you when you're plastered? You don't know what they'll do. You don't know if they have a weapon. Maybe they'll try to gouge out your eyes. Not everyone follows "rules", hell, they may be trying to kill you. There's a rule against that, last I checked. Survival is a completely different game. You're not trying to be the big man and win, you're trying to not be dead.
Like I said, there are far more effective and efficient ways of being damned sure you've disabled someone, in a fight, but if you get attacked by someone you don't know, all's fair in love and war.
Depends on who I'm fighting. If, like you said, it's the only way to not have the crap beaten out of me, then sure. However, if it's someone my same height and strength, I wouldn't.
However, I'm not sure why it's the "Below the belt" rule instead of the "Don't hit people's genitals" rule. Why can't I kick him in the shins? I can be decent and avoid someone's reproductive system, but I don't see why I can't sweep his legs out from under him.
However, I'm not sure why it's the "Below the belt" rule instead of the "Don't hit people's genitals" rule. Why can't I kick him in the shins? I can be decent and avoid someone's reproductive system, but I don't see why I can't sweep his legs out from under him.
The reason you don't hit bellow the belt is because it gives permission to the other person to do it, and a fight without rules, well what's stopping him from tearing you into Mrs. Kortin?kortin said:
My problem is that, you never know if people will go by those rules, you just try and assume and hope that they will.
It's inbetween all your limbs so it's easy to block incoming blows. The male pelvis is specifically designed to make sure all glancing blows move away from the groin (women don't have this advantage because their pelvis is made for childbirth not fighting) and the testicles are in a sack so that they can give so they don't take the full front of any force.someonehairy-ish said:
If you really wanna test it out spar with a friend and try to hit their belly button. If they don't want you to you will never get a clean blow.
Of course I would go for it! I don't have any dignity to lose in fighting cheap. If that was the situation anyway, because I wouldn't automatically lock onto balls if I was in a fair fight.
Id rather get KOd. either he can look like a dick for knocking out someone who weighs 140 lbs, or I can look like a vagina for kicking him in the balls.
In most situations I would rely on my MMA training, but for this scenario ill assume the guy has 100 lbs on me, better striking, and good enough wrestling to cock block my jiu jutsu. I would try to win using footwork and leg kicks, which are "below the belt" but clearly not a ***** move like kicking in the balls. Since im going to lose, I would just hope not to ket KOd on my feet so I dont hit my head on the pavement.
For the record, if this guy was a total dick, and deserved a serious injury, I would try to heal hook him. Im a pretty quiet person irl, and if someone seriously forced me into a fight, and they think they cant lose, they are probably a dick and deserve a blown ACL.
In most situations I would rely on my MMA training, but for this scenario ill assume the guy has 100 lbs on me, better striking, and good enough wrestling to cock block my jiu jutsu. I would try to win using footwork and leg kicks, which are "below the belt" but clearly not a ***** move like kicking in the balls. Since im going to lose, I would just hope not to ket KOd on my feet so I dont hit my head on the pavement.
For the record, if this guy was a total dick, and deserved a serious injury, I would try to heal hook him. Im a pretty quiet person irl, and if someone seriously forced me into a fight, and they think they cant lose, they are probably a dick and deserve a blown ACL.
I can think of much better ways of taking down a big dude than by revolviendo sus huevos, specifically hitting the over sized bastard with my belt until either he runs away or I do.
Edit: Plus I'm not really into hurting people very badly, and if you do cause enough damage to the sack I've heard of cases like cancer and permanent damage arising. That isn't something I want on my conscience. On the grounds of fairness alone, I would, though.
Edit: Plus I'm not really into hurting people very badly, and if you do cause enough damage to the sack I've heard of cases like cancer and permanent damage arising. That isn't something I want on my conscience. On the grounds of fairness alone, I would, though.
There's no such thing as a fair fight. If fighting were fair, then nobody would get hurt. However, if nobody gets hurt, then it's not a fight, it's an arguement.
There is no honor in fighting, seeing as you can never take the moral high-ground when you're throwing punches or swinging baseball bats. Nobody who resorts to violence is in the right. It doesn't matter how noble your cause is, or if you're protecting a litter of defenseless kittens, violence invalidates all of that.
That being said. Yea... I'd send his testicles into his stomach with my foot, and then walk away. He's obviously not as skilled as he thinks he is if he can't stop my kick. There are no rules in fighting, stop pretending that there are, and as long as evil exists, there will always be the need to forsake honor and submit to your violent urges.
There is no honor in fighting, seeing as you can never take the moral high-ground when you're throwing punches or swinging baseball bats. Nobody who resorts to violence is in the right. It doesn't matter how noble your cause is, or if you're protecting a litter of defenseless kittens, violence invalidates all of that.
That being said. Yea... I'd send his testicles into his stomach with my foot, and then walk away. He's obviously not as skilled as he thinks he is if he can't stop my kick. There are no rules in fighting, stop pretending that there are, and as long as evil exists, there will always be the need to forsake honor and submit to your violent urges.
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But in my book when you get to walk away with your 500$ sunglasses and soul intact I think its pretty much worth it.
But in my book when you get to walk away with your 500$ sunglasses and soul intact I think its pretty much worth it.
I take karate, and the only point of the below the belt rule is so no one gets their balls crushed during training. in a real fight, anything that works is game, but most good fighters could knock you out before you got the chance to kick them in the balls or the shins.