I honestly don't know. I have seen several Discovery Channel and Science Channel specials on the subject, and that is what they always say.Naheal said:I'm not doubting you, but I'd like to see those equations.crudus said:It is possible. However, the math points to being unable to travel to a point before the time machine existed.
Rockchimp69 said:Rule number 1, there's point in having a discussion thread if you don't argue why you think that. Although I totally agree about the Star Trek thing, the only decent time travel plots were the DS9 Trials and Tribilations episode and that one from TNG where they find data's head.Fursnake said:I flat out don't believe time travel is possible...and quite frankly sick of seeing Star Trek fall back on it time and time again as a plot device.
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Alrighty I'll elaborate. I don't think time travel is possible either forwards or backwards.
Time travel backwards in time- I see no plausible (or even barely plausible) explanation for how one can revisit people, places and events which have passed and no longer exist in one way or another. Far enough back and the people from previous eras are dead and gone, places have changed, places have changed. Time traveling to the past would mean that those people, places, events etc would have to be 'recorded' in a sense or stored somehow to be revisited somehow, seems preposterous to me. Those things are gone. If not, where are they stored...in another dimension?
Time travel to the future- well for this to work you have to accpet the idea that everything and I mean everything is predetermined, which I don't on accept principle. I believe that things are mostly random in our existence; there are rules and laws that govern how things coexist and interact but beyond that I think it is random what happens. I don't believe it is possible to advance forward in time to a point that hasn't occurred yet because there is so much that could happen in between to change the outcome of that specific point in time and hus not reach that actual specific point in time, the variable are too much.
Actually I guess I look at it a bit deeper than that; time is constantly moving forward it never moves back. How could it? It is really more of a concept of the progression, evolution and eventual destruction of everything in existence...but it is not predetermined and you can't guess your way to a future point in time. Anyway, time is really just a human concept and it seems a bit arrogant to think that manipulation (time travel) of a human concept (time) could actually effect all of existence. Because it would have to or any theories of time travel at all are invalidated from the start.
Fursnake said:You don't have to accept that everything is pre-determined to believe in travelling to the future, for example, I just travelled one second into the future. If that doesn't qualify as time travel than how would you define it? Your point disproves a type of time travel where you would be instantly skipping several years. But that would take an infinite amount of energy so is impossible anyway. In a practical sense however you could, by travelling extremely fast, pass through time faster than everyone else. Is that not good enough for you?Rockchimp69 said:Rule number 1, there's point in having a discussion thread if you don't argue why you think that. Although I totally agree about the Star Trek thing, the only decent time travel plots were the DS9 Trials and Tribilations episode and that one from TNG where they find data's head.Fursnake said:I flat out don't believe time travel is possible...and quite frankly sick of seeing Star Trek fall back on it time and time again as a plot device.
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Alrighty I'll elaborate. I don't think time travel is possible either forwards or backwards.
Time travel backwards in time- I see no plausible (or even barely plausible) explanation for how one can revisit people, places and events which have passed and no longer exist in one way or another. Far enough back and the people from previous eras are dead and gone, places have changed, places have changed. Time traveling to the past would mean that those people, places, events etc would have to be 'recorded' in a sense or stored somehow to be revisited somehow, seems preposterous to me. Those things are gone. If not, where are they stored...in another dimension?
Time travel to the future- well for this to work you have to accpet the idea that everything and I mean everything is predetermined, which I don't on accept principle. I believe that things are mostly random in our existence; there are rules and laws that govern how things coexist and interact but beyond that I think it is random what happens. I don't believe it is possible to advance forward in time to a point that hasn't occurred yet because there is so much that could happen in between to change the outcome of that specific point in time and hus not reach that actual specific point in time, the variable are too much.
Actually I guess I look at it a bit deeper than that; time is constantly moving forward it never moves back. How could it? It is really more of a concept of the progression, evolution and eventual destruction of everything in existence...but it is not predetermined and you can't guess your way to a future point in time. Anyway, time is really just a human concept and it seems a bit arrogant to think that manipulation (time travel) of a human concept (time) could actually effect all of existence. Because it would have to or any theories of time travel at all are invalidated from the start.
And about what you said about everything being pre-determined, i'm sorry but that is simple not true. Everything happens for a reason, and if you knew all the reasons for something, you could accurately predict the future, does that not count as the future being "pre-determined"? I agree that different points in time probably aren't "stored" somewhere but I do believe that because of Causality the future is pre-determined. But that doesn't mean we can't make decisions about things, which I think most people don't understand. We are still mostly in charge of our own lives, the future being "pre-determined" just means that we can PREDICT what's going to happen.
Anyway sorry about this long reply I just got a bit carried away there![]()
Sounds ridiculous, what the person probably meant was that it is possible in some limited form, but the energy released would devastate the universe as we know it. You can't "destroy" the universe because the universe is a concept of everythingWenseph said:I read somewhere that time travel was possible, but it would destroy the universe. Sounds a little extreme.
I think it's possible, but the consequences could probably be pretty bad, even if you only changed something small.