Poll: Do you believe in "women and children first"?

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zenoaugustus

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I believe in it, but to the extent of, if it was my wife and my kids, then they'd be my priority without a doubt. I would do the same to protect other women and children, but I understand that the principle may be sexist or outdated for some. Regardless, I don't think that is how it is intended, and that is never how I intend it when I think about it, but still, I see how it could be a flawed idea. It is all about perspective in the end.
 

babinro

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Voted other. But my answer is basically No.

If woman and children first is going to cause a 20 minute delay that adds 300 additional deaths than I don't consider that a 'win'.

If those 300 lives can be saved by doing things in an orderly fashion where some children or woman may die, I consider that the be the lesser evil.

All things being equal, I'd rather a child survive over a woman/man.

All things being equal, I'd rather someone else live over myself since I've accomplished everything I've set out to do in my life.
 

Jodah

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Children first I can go with and even mothers and children first. If a mother is on a cruise with their children I would probably give up my seat for them. That being said women without kids can wait just like the men. If the father is with the family he can wait too. If you are a mother and don't have you kids with you, you can wait with the men.
 

Wyld Fyre

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If it is my woman or child then yes them first if not... survival of the fittest and all that.
 

soren7550

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I'm sort of inclined to say 'women and children first' since I am a women and/or children. But then again, I believe in equality, that there should be enough precautions to be taken to save most, if not everyone, and that I never want to go on a boat and/or plane since I have an irrational fear of shit going wrong.
 

Biosophilogical

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It really depends on the situation. If it's something like battle/combat, then those who are unable to defend themselves should be given priority of escape (provided all other things are equal). If it's something like the Titanic, with the exception of putting children on the life boats first (with at least one parent so that a) there are adults there to try and keep them alive, and b) that the children don't end up starving in the streets anyway), I think it is a rather inverted priority system. The people who push and shove their way onto the boats are the ones who value their lives at the expense of others, whereas the ones trying to help others onto the lifeboats are the ones with a sense of compassion, and are perhaps more valuable than those they help (possibly because they are acting as 'leaders', or because they represent the qualities of human interaction most conducive to mutual benefits).

So I don't believe in women and children first. I do believe in children first (from the perspective of a society/parent, we are responsible for them (as the continuation of our species, for example), and from the perspective of someone who doesn't feel that way, a child has more to lose than an adult, simply because they still have so much left to experience). Then the next priority is to determine if those who remain behind have a chance of survival (if they do, then the children's parents with the least chance of survival should be seen to next), as it makes sense for those most likely to survive to remain behind as a way of maximising the number of people likely to survive the ordeal, as well as providing the escaping children with a greater chance for a good life (by having at least one parent go with them).
 

wintercoat

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Liquidacid23 said:
LilithSlave said:
Liquidacid23 said:
actually men are technically more expendable than women to a point...
To a very, very small point in the survival of the species.

One that's fairly moot in an overpopulated world.
meh it all depends on the scale...

if we are talking evacuating the planet or a large portion of a specific race or culture it is a very very valid and important point...

if we are talking about one boat which contains such a massively small portion of our population then it simply doesn't matter... but at that point it doesn't matter if ANYONE gets off alive... everyone on the boat could die and it wouldn't matter in any meaningful capacity so the whole discussion of "who should go first" or even if anyone should go at all is moot
Actually, if you were evacuating a planet or any large population that would then have to repopulate themselves, you would want a fairly equal number of males and females for the greatest genetic pool you can get. Genetic diversity is just as important for the continuation of a species as any other factor.
 

Biodeamon

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me first, women later, then politicians, then celebrities, then children.
oh and did i mention there's only room for one?