Poll: Do you believe that Courtney killed Kurt?

[Mondo_Generator]

He killed himself.

That's it.

 

[DisturbiaWolf13]

As much as I love Kurt and Nirvana, I think its suicide. Desperate fans like to think thaty Courtney did it, maybe it feels better being able to blame someone.
But hey, I guess we'll never know.

err... sorry to burst your bubble but kurt's fingerprints werent found on the gun that killed him and he had about 3 times the lethal dose of morphine in his blood when they found him,that amount would have left him no time to load a shotgun (with multiple shots,why would he do that if he just wanted to shoot himself?) and pull the trigger...oh and wipe his finger prints from the gun afterward.dead men dont pull triggers.

 

[mikecoulter]

I think she pushed him too it.

Lets be fair, anyone with a life like that + a drug addiction is going to turn out a bit of a nutter.

 

[DisturbiaWolf13]

suicide, I don't believe in all these conspiracies

The forensics don't lie man; Kurt's fingerprints weren't on the shotgun, suicide note, shotgun shells, the pen that was stuck in the suicide note or the drug paraphernalia that was found near his body. The heroin levels were over three times the lethal dose (that amount can kill a horse in seconds.), a amount that was never found in a junkie before or after his death. Also, his arms weren't long enough to stick the gun in his mouth & pull the trigger. And that's just the tip of the forensics iceberg.

If you don't want to listen to that, just remember his daughter. He loved her to death and would have done anything for her. The main reason he was leaving Courtney was because he wanted to protect Francis from her.

Believe me when I say I know the greater details of this case. I took a forensics course not too long ago and did a 33+ page long essay on his death. I dug through all the shit I could find on his death, even police reports about him before his death and after it. (Still got it)

Read the book Love & Death if you want a complete investigation of his death. It was written by two Canadians who thought the whole "Kurt was murdered" theory was a load of horse crap. Buy the end of the book, the forensics convinced them otherwise.

Do I think Courtney herself killed Kurt? No. Do I believe she was behind his death? You better believe it.

i wish id read this before i posted a shorter run down of the same evidence to someone else.did you read ''Who killed kurt cobain''?

 

[soren7550]

"yawn" Oh sorry...really Cobain? Will it make him any less dead?

This keeps going on because he's dead isn't the whole reason why it doesn't die. That's part of it. It's the fact that the forensics points to murder and no one has been put away for it. Murders shouldn't be allowed to walk around free. That'd be like saying Americans shouldn't bother trying to catch Bin Ladin because 9/11 was almost eight years ago.

But Soren, he's responsible for a lot more deaths. That's different. Murder is still murder. If you kill someone in cold blood, you deserve to die.

 

[soren7550]

suicide, I don't believe in all these conspiracies

The forensics don't lie man; Kurt's fingerprints weren't on the shotgun, suicide note, shotgun shells, the pen that was stuck in the suicide note or the drug paraphernalia that was found near his body. The heroin levels were over three times the lethal dose (that amount can kill a horse in seconds.), a amount that was never found in a junkie before or after his death. Also, his arms weren't long enough to stick the gun in his mouth & pull the trigger. And that's just the tip of the forensics iceberg.

If you don't want to listen to that, just remember his daughter. He loved her to death and would have done anything for her. The main reason he was leaving Courtney was because he wanted to protect Francis from her.

Believe me when I say I know the greater details of this case. I took a forensics course not too long ago and did a 33+ page long essay on his death. I dug through all the shit I could find on his death, even police reports about him before his death and after it. (Still got it)

Read the book Love & Death if you want a complete investigation of his death. It was written by two Canadians who thought the whole "Kurt was murdered" theory was a load of horse crap. Buy the end of the book, the forensics convinced them otherwise.

Do I think Courtney herself killed Kurt? No. Do I believe she was behind his death? You better believe it.

i wish id read this before i posted a shorter run down of the same evidence to someone else.did you read ''Who killed kurt cobain''?

Nah, haven't been able to find a copy.

 

[TriggerUnhappy]

I'm honestly not sure, don't know enough about the forensics. Even then, I don't really care, and I still found it kind of funny that people always call his death "tragic" or "shocking". He was a (possibly depressed) heroin addict, can there really be a happy ending to that kind of story? Even if he hadn't died, he probably would've gone to rehab or something, then slowly faded into obscurity like many bands/people before him.

 

[Sigel]

"yawn" Oh sorry...really Cobain? Will it make him any less dead?

This keeps going on because he's dead isn't the whole reason why it doesn't die. That's part of it. It's the fact that the forensics points to murder and no one has been put away for it. Murders shouldn't be allowed to walk around free. That'd be like saying Americans shouldn't bother trying to catch Bin Ladin because 9/11 was almost eight years ago.

But Soren, he's responsible for a lot more deaths. That's different. Murder is still murder. If you kill someone in cold blood, you deserve to die.

Seriously? You are going to compare Cobain to 9/11??? I think that is a wee bit out of proportion.

Am I saying murderers should walk around free? No, I am not. Are we going to wade through all the speculation, drama, and mystery of Cobain's murder and solve it now or ever especially on an Escapist forum? I am going to go with no on this one. The topic just seems a little "schmeh".

 

[Goldbling]

A lot of people think she hired someone to kill him. You should put in a 'contract killer' option.

I believe it was suicide because of his crippling stomach problems.

Now, let's go solve the mystery of Tupac.

easy, he got shot. DEAL WITH IT. Or did he? Wait, what?

I couldn't care less.

I was never really into Nirvana.

Is that what he's from? I've herd his name before but I never knew who he was

 

[TheXRatedDodo]

I firmly believe that Courtney was BEHIND his killing, but not the perpetrator. (sp?)
He asked Dylan Carlson to buy that shotgun for his own self protection, that alone says it all, he wanted to stay alive.
He had 3 times the lethal dose of heroin in him as well, you'd be fucked within seconds, even if it took longer to kill you, good luck shooting yourself.

Those are the 2 things that seal the deal for me.

 

[soren7550]

"yawn" Oh sorry...really Cobain? Will it make him any less dead?

This keeps going on because he's dead isn't the whole reason why it doesn't die. That's part of it. It's the fact that the forensics points to murder and no one has been put away for it. Murders shouldn't be allowed to walk around free. That'd be like saying Americans shouldn't bother trying to catch Bin Ladin because 9/11 was almost eight years ago.

But Soren, he's responsible for a lot more deaths. That's different. Murder is still murder. If you kill someone in cold blood, you deserve to die.

Seriously? You are going to compare Cobain to 9/11??? I think that is a wee bit out of proportion.

Am I saying murderers should walk around free? No, I am not. Are we going to wade through all the speculation, drama, and mystery of Cobain's murder and solve it now or ever especially on an Escapist forum? I am going to go with no on this one. The topic just seems a little "schmeh".

My point was that if its one or thousands, murders should be brought to justice no matter how many they kill or who the hell they are.

And yes, I know that a bunch of people on a Escapist forum aren't exactly going to "solve it once and for all", but who knows? Maybe someone who can do something about it will see this and do something about it to put all the speculation at rest. (yes, I can see how stupid & cheesy that sounds) If enough people start asking the right questions, the SPD might re-open the case (which is highly unlikely. They aren't good at what they do.)

I believe it was suicide because of his crippling stomach problems.

By the time he died, he didn't have the stomach problems anymore. A doctor finally figured out that it was his spine was pinching his stomach (something like that, don't remember the proper term for it.), and he was easily able to prescribe the right medication for him so that his stomach wouldn't bother him anymore.

Next.

 

[mooncalf]

I think Cobain's death was by misadventure, not murder or suicide, you get drugged up, you're not happy to begin with, you don't intend to do anything, but you've done it for pretend before, and it's all that much more authentic with a real firearm...
In regards to Courteney, I don't think of her as a nice person, but a killer? I doubt.

 

[Sigel]

"yawn" Oh sorry...really Cobain? Will it make him any less dead?

This keeps going on because he's dead isn't the whole reason why it doesn't die. That's part of it. It's the fact that the forensics points to murder and no one has been put away for it. Murders shouldn't be allowed to walk around free. That'd be like saying Americans shouldn't bother trying to catch Bin Ladin because 9/11 was almost eight years ago.

But Soren, he's responsible for a lot more deaths. That's different. Murder is still murder. If you kill someone in cold blood, you deserve to die.

Seriously? You are going to compare Cobain to 9/11??? I think that is a wee bit out of proportion.

Am I saying murderers should walk around free? No, I am not. Are we going to wade through all the speculation, drama, and mystery of Cobain's murder and solve it now or ever especially on an Escapist forum? I am going to go with no on this one. The topic just seems a little "schmeh".

My point was that if its one or thousands, murders should be brought to justice no matter how many they kill or who the hell they are.

And yes, I know that a bunch of people on a Escapist forum aren't exactly going to "solve it once and for all", but who knows? Maybe someone who can do something about it will see this and do something about it to put all the speculation at rest. (yes, I can see how stupid & cheesy that sounds) If enough people start asking the right questions, the SPD might re-open the case (which is highly unlikely. They aren't good at what they do.)

I believe it was suicide because of his crippling stomach problems.

By the time he died, he didn't have the stomach problems anymore. A doctor finally figured out that it was his spine was pinching his stomach (something like that, don't remember the proper term for it.), and he was easily able to prescribe the right medication for him so that his stomach wouldn't bother him anymore.

Next.

I don't think Yahtzee and the dudes from Unskippable are going to take the case.

 

[Standby]

suicide, I don't believe in all these conspiracies

The forensics don't lie man; Kurt's fingerprints weren't on the shotgun, suicide note, shotgun shells, the pen that was stuck in the suicide note or the drug paraphernalia that was found near his body. The heroin levels were over three times the lethal dose (that amount can kill a horse in seconds.), a amount that was never found in a junkie before or after his death. Also, his arms weren't long enough to stick the gun in his mouth & pull the trigger. And that's just the tip of the forensics iceberg.

If you don't want to listen to that, just remember his daughter. He loved her to death and would have done anything for her. The main reason he was leaving Courtney was because he wanted to protect Francis from her.

Believe me when I say I know the greater details of this case. I took a forensics course not too long ago and did a 33+ page long essay on his death. I dug through all the shit I could find on his death, even police reports about him before his death and after it. (Still got it)

Read the book Love & Death if you want a complete investigation of his death. It was written by two Canadians who thought the whole "Kurt was murdered" theory was a load of horse crap. Buy the end of the book, the forensics convinced them otherwise.

Do I think Courtney herself killed Kurt? No. Do I believe she was behind his death? You better believe it.

I love Kurt as much as the next guy who never met him, but if there's so much evidence (such as his heroin kit being put neatly back together despite shooting up so much) why has nothing been done about it if it's such a blatant murder?

I used to strongly believe that Courtney had Kurt murdered because he planned on leaving her and quitting Nirvana, the whole thing with the suiceide where the bottom few lines are written in different handwriting was quite convincing for a while (assuming he didn't write the rest whilst high or something), but now i tend to think that he did kill himself, Courtney however either mentally drove him to do it, or did nothing to prevent it.

 

[effilctar]

It's quite interesting to see from the votes that the forums are pretty much half and half about this topic.

 

[esperandote]

As pamela anderson said

"I didn't know that Courtney love could do stand-up comedy, i mean, i knew she was funny i just didn't know she could stand up."

 

[ace_of_something]

I believe it was suicide because of his crippling stomach problems.

By the time he died, he didn't have the stomach problems anymore. A doctor finally figured out that it was his spine was pinching his stomach (something like that, don't remember the proper term for it.), and he was easily able to prescribe the right medication for him so that his stomach wouldn't bother him anymore.

Next.

Oh, I did not know that. Though my knowledge on the subject is only cursory. In that case I change my answer to suicide because he was depressed and had lotsa drugs.

 

[cleverlymadeup]

suicide, I don't believe in all these conspiracies

The forensics don't lie man; Kurt's fingerprints weren't on the shotgun, suicide note, shotgun shells, the pen that was stuck in the suicide note or the drug paraphernalia that was found near his body. The heroin levels were over three times the lethal dose (that amount can kill a horse in seconds.), a amount that was never found in a junkie before or after his death. Also, his arms weren't long enough to stick the gun in his mouth & pull the trigger. And that's just the tip of the forensics iceberg.

If you don't want to listen to that, just remember his daughter. He loved her to death and would have done anything for her. The main reason he was leaving Courtney was because he wanted to protect Francis from her.

Believe me when I say I know the greater details of this case. I took a forensics course not too long ago and did a 33+ page long essay on his death. I dug through all the shit I could find on his death, even police reports about him before his death and after it. (Still got it)

Read the book Love & Death if you want a complete investigation of his death. It was written by two Canadians who thought the whole "Kurt was murdered" theory was a load of horse crap. Buy the end of the book, the forensics convinced them otherwise.

Do I think Courtney herself killed Kurt? No. Do I believe she was behind his death? You better believe it.

actually the most shocking one involved in all this is Tom Grant, he's an investigator and former sheriff's office investigator hired to investigate Kurt's disappearance. he at first did it as a missing persons case.

however after a while and certain things that came up, he switched his opinion from being a suicide to a murder plot.

there are a few things, besides the shot gun thing. his "suicide" note has 2 distinctly different hand writing styles, up until the last couple lines it's a "good bye to the music industry and fans" as it was widely known that Kurt hated the fame and wanted to be left alone. read his suicide note without the ending part that's a bunch of chicken scrawl

there is also the rumour he wanted to divorce Courtney and was trying to cut her out of his will and give it all to Francis

anyways here's Tom Grant's website

http://www.cobaincase.com/