Poll: do you concider cheerleading a sport

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Anonymous Overlord

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Eliam_Dar said:
I dont consider it a sport. Why, because if I did then I should also consider Ballet a sport. I'll admit though that it requires a lot of training.
I see your argument, but what makes a sport a sport is public competition. Ballet is not a battle between who dances better, but a performance (at least on the stage, auditions are another matter)much like a stage performance or a television show. Where cheer leading is organized dance against the other teams. Organized dance for the point of being more exciting than the other team. in other words two teams face each other in completion, ergo a sport.

not to mention there are whole event dedicated to competitive cheering.
 
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Cheerleading, a spectator sport? People pay money to watch cheerleaders? Weren't they used as a morale booster for a sport?

Hard work, sure. A sport? Nope.
 

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Anonymous Overlord said:
not to mention there are whole event dedicated to competitive cheering.
If that's what you base you logic on, then almost everything you can make a competition out of would be a sport. By that logic, robotics competitions, eating contests, and poker tournaments are all sporting events.
 

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I consider it entertaining.

Wouldn't say a sport, but definitely a form of exercise, and some incredible skills if you get good at it. It's not a sport in the same way single-player video games aren't a sport. Yea, you can get incredibly skilled and do some amazing things, but it's just not sport-worthy.
 

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my secondary school did not have a cheer leading squad
also those girls are usually prettier than me. so i don't consider it a sport.
as another mentioned ballet is not a sport so why should cheerleader be considered one?
 

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I believe anything that requires some sort of judge to decide a winner is not a sport they are performances. The reason I believe that we call these performances sports is because it is easy to see how they are directly connected to an existing sport(synchronized swimming)and/or have no narrative so it's not seen as a performance(gymnastics)

Also all of these "sports" have no meaningful choices being made while the game/competition is actually taking place. Sports are a sub-section of games right? If that is true then these "sports" are not sports because they are not games. These are not games because the players never experience game play. All they do is use the muscle memory that they have been building. Any and all game decisions are made outside of the game so they are all meta-game.
 

WolfLordAndy

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More of a sport then Darts, Pool or Shooting...

Its effectively what you get when you take Gymnastics, Dance and Syncronised Swimming. Combine together and take away the water...

I don't however think they should ditch another sport in favour for it. I'd say they were better keeping the current sport then starting up a new one if they're really that stretched for budget.
 

Scolar Visari

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Demented Teddy said:
No, it´s basically just dancing or gymnastics.

People saying that it´s a sport because it´s competitive, well, ever hear of dancing compititions?
Woah there. You saying gymnastics isn't a sport? If so, we may have to scrap.
 

viranimus

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agrandstudent said:
I believe anything that requires some sort of judge to decide a winner is not a sport they are performances. The reason I believe that we call these performances sports is because it is easy to see how they are directly connected to an existing sport(synchronized swimming)and/or have no narrative so it's not seen as a performance(gymnastics)

Also all of these "sports" have no meaningful choices being made while the game/competition is actually taking place. Sports are a sub-section of games right? If that is true then these "sports" are not sports because they are not games. These are not games because the players never experience game play. All they do is use the muscle memory that they have been building. Any and all game decisions are made outside of the game so they are all meta-game.
My thoughts almost exactly. I respect that it takes a great degree of skill, training and stamina. But in my personal estimation, a sport is something that the competitive element of it is decided specifically by the action of the activity. At the end of a basketball game, the victor is made clear by the point talley. In a race the victor is made clear by who crossed the finish line first. In cheerleading or any sort of judged activity, the victor is decided not ness. on the action of the activity, but on the opinion of those who are judging.
 

Anonymous Overlord

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Reading the posts in this thread, i have to wonder if the people replying are aware what cheer leading is. Cheer leading is not just the preppy girls from your local high school shouting tired lines to an uncaring crowd while the home team puts on a display of epic mediocrity. Okay maybe thats what its like allot of places, I'll make that concession. And maybe posting about cheer leading on a gaming culture website would naturally draw allot of ignorance. I would wager most people here only think about them as side line decoration in Madden *year* (or other sports game). However whether you recognize cheer leading as a sport or not is irrelevant, cheer leading is a sport, and here is a couple reason to care.

Firstly cheering is a form of group dance. Performance dance on is always a challenging experience. to make that performance exciting to the audience coordination is forged in the fires of unending practice. A single routine may take months to hammer out before its ready to be preformed for an audience. Long hard hours of potentially dangerous practice that comes down to a brief few moments where precise execution is required or else failure, humiliation, or worse injury. Which leads to the next point, Danger.

Cheer leading, on a professional level can and often does require extensive gymnastics, without a safety net. Accidents happen. More accidents happen to cheer leaders than most other athletes, and what else would you expect. On top of that those gymnastics are made to be done at precise moments to coincide with music. Throwing and catching people flying through air all for the sake of entertainment, glory, And to see the face on the rival team. Bringing us to what makes cheer leading a sport rather than just an extreme form performance art.

Cheer leading is a sport tied to another sport, the cheer leaders travel with the "main" team so that when the face there rivals they can be more exciting than their foes cheer leaders. Direct competition between teams. The face off to try and be more exciting than their adversary, and if nothing else that fact alone makes cheer leading its own athletic event. In fact there are events that are solely dedicated to cheering. teams get together and preform their most complex and intricate routine in hopes of winning a trophy. Hear that, teams spend months on choreography, planning, training, and all for a trophy. just like any other sport.

Next time your bored look up some cheer leading on you-tube, you can find some incredible things.

Edit: saw some one say "cheerleading has no judges, there fore not a sport". in the case of non-cheerleading specific events the audience is the judge. if the audience remains more entertained by one group over the other there is a clear "win". some times theres not, but just because there isn't a standard judge, or even a reward at the end of every event does not make the other points of cheer leading any less valid as a sport.
 

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I believe it's a sport in the same way gymnastics or figure skating are sports. There's no question that it takes an incredible amount of endurance and years of difficult training to get to the point where you can compete seriously, but the competitions, as far as I know, are not direct confrontations in the vein of other sports. That is to say, who wins and who loses is decided by judges. Unless you get right down into the technical aspects of it, it's entirely up to personal interpretation, unlike volleyball, where there usually isn't any question as to which team played better.

So yeah, while I acknowledge the legitimacy of competitive cheerleading, I have to say, volleyball really does deserve the spot.
 

Kair

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Well from the definition of sport, even dancing is sport. We might need a better definition.

I say sport requires physical scoring.