Poll: Do you enjoy Moviebob's content?
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I don't agree with him on a lot of points, but I give him a chance because underneath the soapbox liberal stuff he does have some interesting points. Its his approach and tone that is very off-putting. Like I said he can raise good points but his method of delivery leaves a lot to be desired and feels almost designed to talk down to anyone who doesn't agree with his views.
Like the whole Scott Pilgrim thing... honestly I disliked that movie for a lot of reasons, some due to Michael Cera.
Like the whole Scott Pilgrim thing... honestly I disliked that movie for a lot of reasons, some due to Michael Cera.
I don't like his movie reviews and that's only because we have different tastes in what we like, so naturally I wouldn't use him as a source for what I would enjoy. Well, I suppose the other reason is because I don't like his condescending tone and his flippant remarks about what people like or don't like.
As for his news articles, and featured columns I don't like his writing style. It drives me crazy, so I don't bother.
His Big Picture stuff, however, I do enjoy, for the most part. Most of it, I do agree with his points, and I really enjoy Schlocktober since typically find some good bad movies that he's talked about. There are a few videos where I really disagree with him on various points, but that's fine. I don't expect to agree with the man on everything he does and says. Again, some times his condescending remarks rub me the wrong way and it's annoying.
As for his news articles, and featured columns I don't like his writing style. It drives me crazy, so I don't bother.
His Big Picture stuff, however, I do enjoy, for the most part. Most of it, I do agree with his points, and I really enjoy Schlocktober since typically find some good bad movies that he's talked about. There are a few videos where I really disagree with him on various points, but that's fine. I don't expect to agree with the man on everything he does and says. Again, some times his condescending remarks rub me the wrong way and it's annoying.
He has some great insight and movies and (sometimes) video games. Hell, I don't always agree with the guy, but I admire his passion and acknowledge the right for him to have an opinion and to criticize however he wants to.
Yahtzee is still the primary reason I stick around the Escapist, but I am glad I discovered Movie Bob.
Yahtzee is still the primary reason I stick around the Escapist, but I am glad I discovered Movie Bob.
Similar to yahtzee, I enjoy him for entertainment value but I wouldn't judge a game/movie over what he said about it. In most cases.
With that said from the movies I have seen that he has also reviewed hes does seem pretty spot on most of the time. I just have a bad habit of liking games and movies that everyone else ever thinks are the worst.
With that said from the movies I have seen that he has also reviewed hes does seem pretty spot on most of the time. I just have a bad habit of liking games and movies that everyone else ever thinks are the worst.
He can certainly be entertaining at times but other times I just disengage. Particularly when he was crossing over his Youtube identity into The Big Picture, he lost me in a big way for a time.
Still, I do enjoy some of his content so I won't write him off but he is nowhere as interesting or entertaining when compared to Jim or Yahtzee's contributions to the site.
Still, I do enjoy some of his content so I won't write him off but he is nowhere as interesting or entertaining when compared to Jim or Yahtzee's contributions to the site.
Aren't "Generally no" and "Occasionally yes" the same thing?
Anyway, those are my answers. A lot of his stuff doesn't interest me because I'm just not into those areas that he's talking about, that's fine. Some of his stuff does bring a unique perspective though, which I enjoy.
Anyway, those are my answers. A lot of his stuff doesn't interest me because I'm just not into those areas that he's talking about, that's fine. Some of his stuff does bring a unique perspective though, which I enjoy.
I mentioned this elsewhere, but I will say it again here. Most of the time I am fine with most of his video content, but I much prefer his written content or when the TV & Movies podcast has a subject that interests me he seems to be interesting to me. An example is Interstellar, for his movie review made it seem like he really dislike the movie, but listening to him talk about it on the podcast it was more of a "its okay, but not great".
With the small exception of some of the wacky and esoteric movies he introduces me to that I've never heard of, no.
He comes across as petty and arrogant and as someone who has a massive chip on his shoulder. His hatred of "bro" culture seems to be entirely rooted in "I was picked on in high school, therefore I associate all bro culture with the people who picked on me and hate it".
His hatred of Kevin Smith seems to be based heavily on jealousy that someone who is VERY similar to him (an overweight, nerdy, comic book geek who loves movies and film and is from the Northeast) has become highly successful, while he hasn't.
He can't seem to go 3 minutes without talking about racism, pulling up some borderline insane examples of what he thinks constitutes 'racist' (his theory that people love Zombie movies because it lets us live out our fantasies of white colonials mowing down brainless 'savages' was my definite favorite).
His pseudo-feminist pandering makes him sound like a 35 year old virgin who has put women up on such a high pedestal that they are incapable of doing anything wrong, and he must constantly defend them from all the evil misogynists out there.
But really, it's the insane left-leaning arrogance that bugs me. The smugness in the way in which he addresses anyone who thinks differently than him as being somehow beneath him and an idiot. Dude, you do videos about Samurai Pizza Cats and Power Rangers on a not-particularly well-known internet site, and you wrote a book about Super Mario Bros. 3, you're not Martin Luther King Jr, get over yourself.
He comes across as petty and arrogant and as someone who has a massive chip on his shoulder. His hatred of "bro" culture seems to be entirely rooted in "I was picked on in high school, therefore I associate all bro culture with the people who picked on me and hate it".
His hatred of Kevin Smith seems to be based heavily on jealousy that someone who is VERY similar to him (an overweight, nerdy, comic book geek who loves movies and film and is from the Northeast) has become highly successful, while he hasn't.
He can't seem to go 3 minutes without talking about racism, pulling up some borderline insane examples of what he thinks constitutes 'racist' (his theory that people love Zombie movies because it lets us live out our fantasies of white colonials mowing down brainless 'savages' was my definite favorite).
His pseudo-feminist pandering makes him sound like a 35 year old virgin who has put women up on such a high pedestal that they are incapable of doing anything wrong, and he must constantly defend them from all the evil misogynists out there.
But really, it's the insane left-leaning arrogance that bugs me. The smugness in the way in which he addresses anyone who thinks differently than him as being somehow beneath him and an idiot. Dude, you do videos about Samurai Pizza Cats and Power Rangers on a not-particularly well-known internet site, and you wrote a book about Super Mario Bros. 3, you're not Martin Luther King Jr, get over yourself.
I guess I echo a lot of what's been said.
On a professional level he's fallen off. Long video clips and recapping things instead of critiquing and introspection in movie reviews and comic stuff on the big picture, and less effort to make a convincing argument than just vent his spleen when he talks politics and social issues. It's like trying to make a review of just telling us the already public knowledge and going it's good or it's bad, and show off historical knowledge. That can be interesting, but in the wikipedia age, it's less a baagable skill. His SHIELD stuff actually sums up the laziness: write a 3 page article, 2 that recap the show, and one the give basic searchable stuff for the names they dropped and wild speculation about wha might happen based on comic book knowledge. Don't get me started on the Game Overthinker and what he thinks is an entertaining plot and entertaining jokes.
Non content related, he's always been a bit of an ass, but as time when on he pretty much accepted that as his true nature and ran with it. Now, I have no problem with assholes that are open about it, if they have the skills to pull it off. Bob was never THAT good in the first place, let alone now. He seems to want to yell at strawmen rather than make a point to real people. Okay, he doesn't think some things are censorship, but he states his beliefs instead of telling me why I should share them, and then goes onto twitter to condescend to those that don't see the enlightened view of the internet z-list schlub from Boston. And that's a relatively decent attempt at making a point. At his worst he comes off like his opinions are formed solely while waiting in line at the Starbucks like every hipster know-it all. Even that might not be so bad, but for a guy into the social justice thing and how we should show more empathy for others, so it's hard to take anything he says seriously when he can show none to people he disagrees with.
Maybe when he started he had merit because video blogs were new things and still catching on. If he premiered today, he does nothing not done better by others and would get lost in the shuffle.
On a professional level he's fallen off. Long video clips and recapping things instead of critiquing and introspection in movie reviews and comic stuff on the big picture, and less effort to make a convincing argument than just vent his spleen when he talks politics and social issues. It's like trying to make a review of just telling us the already public knowledge and going it's good or it's bad, and show off historical knowledge. That can be interesting, but in the wikipedia age, it's less a baagable skill. His SHIELD stuff actually sums up the laziness: write a 3 page article, 2 that recap the show, and one the give basic searchable stuff for the names they dropped and wild speculation about wha might happen based on comic book knowledge. Don't get me started on the Game Overthinker and what he thinks is an entertaining plot and entertaining jokes.
Non content related, he's always been a bit of an ass, but as time when on he pretty much accepted that as his true nature and ran with it. Now, I have no problem with assholes that are open about it, if they have the skills to pull it off. Bob was never THAT good in the first place, let alone now. He seems to want to yell at strawmen rather than make a point to real people. Okay, he doesn't think some things are censorship, but he states his beliefs instead of telling me why I should share them, and then goes onto twitter to condescend to those that don't see the enlightened view of the internet z-list schlub from Boston. And that's a relatively decent attempt at making a point. At his worst he comes off like his opinions are formed solely while waiting in line at the Starbucks like every hipster know-it all. Even that might not be so bad, but for a guy into the social justice thing and how we should show more empathy for others, so it's hard to take anything he says seriously when he can show none to people he disagrees with.
Maybe when he started he had merit because video blogs were new things and still catching on. If he premiered today, he does nothing not done better by others and would get lost in the shuffle.
But when you're making content for a global audience... and said audience is salivating for a sequel to one of last years best action films... when said action film came out and was awesome... do you not think it may have been cool to do a Big Picture episode on the origins of said character or about the book he spawned from?Lilani said:
It's just something that irks me, especially when he's also one of those occasionally known to pull the "All of geek culture..." crap (and I do mean occasionally)... when it comes down to it, what he means is "All of American Geek Culture...", because apparently the European Geek Culture doesn't exist. But it's especially galling as Bob likes to frame himself as someone who tries to make a point of getting his audience out of their comfort zone and reading/watching something interesting, the fact that he'd ignore the British scene, a scene where people like Alan Moore, Grant Morrison, Mark Miller, and Neil Gaiman (some of the most influential names in comics and legitimising comics as an art form respecting by traditional critics) were forged in the hearts of dying stars and solar empires, are you telling me that isn't worth doing a Big Picture episode on? I dunno just seems like... dare I say it... the dreaded American Imperialism.
That would be Dredd.Zhukov said:
Ah apologies for the confusion Dredd was 2012, but aside from that, my point still stands.
I used to watch him from time to time when I lurked about six or seven years ago, but since I signed up, no, not really. He's just not really that entertaining to me, and as someone who basically grew up about three years behind everyone else around me, I've found out most of the things he brings up in terms of movies and cartoons that's interesting to me and he just doesn't bring anything to the table.
Even Yahtzee's worst content still has his accent and speech patterns. Even Jim's worst episodes had his Willem Dafoe doll. Unskippable still gives you an idea that you might want to check out a game due to the artstyle you see at least. Bob's worst episodes are dead air with nothing all that shiny to draw the eye.
And his views on some things are just horrendously skewed and outright wrong to me. I mean, there was the infamous "Link should be a girl for progressive reasons"(and I will never let anyone forget that, the Zelda franchise has a huge amount of female characters that should get a game before Link gets chesticles). And then the two-month(?) lead-up to the TMNT movie earlier this year where he was defending Bay and his movies, while simultaneously bashing Smith, and saying it wouldn't suck when everyone knew it was going to except for maybe a scene or two.
Even Yahtzee's worst content still has his accent and speech patterns. Even Jim's worst episodes had his Willem Dafoe doll. Unskippable still gives you an idea that you might want to check out a game due to the artstyle you see at least. Bob's worst episodes are dead air with nothing all that shiny to draw the eye.
And his views on some things are just horrendously skewed and outright wrong to me. I mean, there was the infamous "Link should be a girl for progressive reasons"(and I will never let anyone forget that, the Zelda franchise has a huge amount of female characters that should get a game before Link gets chesticles). And then the two-month(?) lead-up to the TMNT movie earlier this year where he was defending Bay and his movies, while simultaneously bashing Smith, and saying it wouldn't suck when everyone knew it was going to except for maybe a scene or two.
Yeah, I don't agree with a lot of things he says, especially his views on the more way he looks at a lot of the equality discussion either explicitly or implicitly, but regardless he makes good content.
Let me put it this way. If moviebob was an indie game developer, Jim sterling probably would have a jimqusiiton about him.He seems to be unable to share his opinion without insulting the people who have the opposite opinion. He just constantly comes off as a bitter child who throws a fit if everyone doesn't agree with him.