when you're on a strict, minute budget like me? used games from several years ago are your only option.
especially in this economy
especially in this economy
Poll: Do you hate the used game market?
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This all happened because some dude at penny arcade made this statement and a bunch of fanboys unable to see past his logical fallacies went on a crusade. But rest assured a lot of people out there were able to pick up on the fallacies and call bullshit.
Any person with a brain can walk into Gamestop and figure out the used copy is 5 bucks less than the new one. If 5 bucks is worth it to you, I can assure you I ain't judging. I have done it myself on occasion. What everyone arguing along side penny "antics" arcade is failing to see is a cardinal rule of marketing known as "You have to mark it up to mark it down". So let them fall for it every time. All they are doing is rooking themselves and advertising the fact with crap logic. Consumerism isn't 1 sided and neither is the market.
There is nothing economically wrong with used games.
Any person with a brain can walk into Gamestop and figure out the used copy is 5 bucks less than the new one. If 5 bucks is worth it to you, I can assure you I ain't judging. I have done it myself on occasion. What everyone arguing along side penny "antics" arcade is failing to see is a cardinal rule of marketing known as "You have to mark it up to mark it down". So let them fall for it every time. All they are doing is rooking themselves and advertising the fact with crap logic. Consumerism isn't 1 sided and neither is the market.
There is nothing economically wrong with used games.
As a gamer, no objections, only good for us. But as someone that is really interested in the industry I never buy used, except for Activision games or others I've deemed unworthy.
No matter what your opinion is, it won't matter for much longer. Downloads will soon dominate the market anyway.
No matter what your opinion is, it won't matter for much longer. Downloads will soon dominate the market anyway.
I don't like the idea of it no. But it's a system that thrives because of the outrageous cost of full price games.
So I buy at least 90% of my games used.
So I buy at least 90% of my games used.
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If I bought a used game, it's probably a game that I wouldn't have bought at full price anyway, if at all, and the only reason I'm buying it is BECAUSE I found it used for about $15. If I couldn't find it used it's not like I would ever buy a full price new copy of the game. Therefore it isn't like I'm stealing from the developer since they wouldn't have gotten any money from me anyway.
The [a href=http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/piracy]Dictionary[/a] would like to have a word with you.Zetion said:
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Indeed. And I predict steep increases in piracy as a result of this unfortunatly =/. Once we're to a strict digial distribution scheme the used market is officially dead. You can't resell your steam games. And at that point the per unit price will be a few cents. Regrettably, even though like half the profits from a new game end up going to the retailer and other middle men(that will be effectly gone) I doubt we see any movement in prices, except for up.GeorgW said:
I mostly only buy games from Steam these days..
When I buy the occasional consol game, I usually just wait for the price to drop. But I'm not opposed to getting a used game from Ebay or something...
...But I avoid Gamestop like the plague.
When I buy the occasional consol game, I usually just wait for the price to drop. But I'm not opposed to getting a used game from Ebay or something...
...But I avoid Gamestop like the plague.
Because when you buy used, that's money they aren't getting, for the same number of people buying their game. How do you not see where they lose out?JedivsPaper said:
If a game sells 1 million copies, if they were all new, they made $60 million. But if half buy them used, then they make only $30 million. $60 million > $30 million.
Not buying new hurts developers. It gives them less money to spend on development of future titles.
I'm not saying buying used is bad. Even I buy used occasionally. But saying it has no effect on the industry is asinine.
how the hell can used gaming be wrong? i bought the disk, and that means i can do what i want with it. if someone wants to buy my disk for such and such price, that's fine with me. and once i sell it, i can't use it anymore. it's like a car.
Absolutely, has an affect. Used sales affect every industry. But you never hear someone say they only buy new cars because they're worried about the indsutry. You can pretty much swap cars for any product of choice. With all these garage sales going on we're shafting many many industries.Jaded Scribe said:
Some folks seem to be missing the point..... used sales absolutely remove some money from developers.
I don't oppose used games at all. In fact, I just bought the original Splinter Cell used less than an hour ago (it was $1.99, no way I'm turning that down). That game I probably couldn't find new, or if I did it'd be prohibitively expensive (as a somewhat related example, new copies of Nintendo 64 games are ~$100-150 on Amazon, but I can get them used for $20), so I buy used. Do I buy more recent games used? Sure, it's mostly a matter of economics, being a college student who buys games with money that I get as gifts or don't spend on eating out (I don't have a job, all my money comes from family members/the occasional survey that I take). I'd really like to support the developers more, but it's simply not reasonable for me to do. I also just don't see most games as worth the $50-60 they cost new, so I wait until they fall in price.
I've never sold a game to a store before, however (I did sell an old console once, but I literally have no use for a GBA with both a Game Boy Color and a DS Lite), mostly because I like collecting games.
But yeah, that's my story.
I've never sold a game to a store before, however (I did sell an old console once, but I literally have no use for a GBA with both a Game Boy Color and a DS Lite), mostly because I like collecting games.
But yeah, that's my story.