Encore, Encore!alandavidson said:As a self-defense instructor I have to say that I agree with this statement completely. I cannot count the number of times I have seen a person trained in traditional martial arts attempt to perform self-defense in class, only to fail miserably.Thebiggestpanda said:Not to disclaim anybodies asskicking abilities, you really can't know how you'd do in a fight until you actually get into a fight. No matter how much training someone has, if they can't adapt to the pressures of having clear and present danger right in front of them they will lose. I was a competitive boxer for five years and have seen plenty of people hesitate when they need to make a move. In a real fight, hesitation is the same thing as letting your opponent/attacker kill you.
Also, most martial arts schools available to the public don't normally teach their students anything applicable to a real combat situation. They're geared to get asses in seats paying membership fees and not teaching you something that could kill somebody and get you thrown in jail.
Speaking from firsthand experience I would have to say that if you wanted something that could be used in a life or death situation, find a real mixed martial arts gym, learn wrestling, or join the military. If your just looking to be able to kick ass and kill if neccessary, just get a guy who is ex-special forces to teach you a thing or two.
Lastly, if you don't know anything about fighting and find yourself in a situation where you have to defend yourself from extreme violence(worst case scenario), try to use anything and everythig you have on hand as a weapon. do anything you can to put the person in front of you on the ground and then run for help. Remember, in real life there is no fighting fair, there is only making sure your ass doesn't get killed.
The problem is not so much the technique - a good punch or kick is crucial to any fight - it is the mentality. In a ring there are judges and referees to call it off when the going gets too tough. On the street there is no towel to be thrown. The mindset of self-defense is truly one of total brutality, wait for your opponent to strike, then use crippling blows until he cannot or does not wish to continue the fight. It is mostly about timing and brutality.
I know this from experience. I have never been in a streetfight that lasted more than 15 seconds because I knew that if it did the playing field would quickly even out.
BUT MOST IMPORTANTLY, most people do not know how to talk down an attacker and avoid the fight altogether. Keeping cool and talking your way out of conflict is the most desirable course of action. Asking questions, agreeing with your potential attacker, speaking in a calm, soothing voice, rationalizing the situation, negotiating, these are all elements of self defense. Once again, I know this from experience. I have avoided countless fights because I talked my opponent down.
Overall, I think that people are afraid of violence. They see it on TV and in movies and applaud it, but once it comes into their lives and homes they are terrified. People do not realize that knowing violence does not make you a violent person. Violence is a last resort, a necessary evil if you will. Learning brutal action must be accompanied by learning peaceful minds. Only then can you truly be able to defend yourself.
It depends on how your club teaches you. My club doesn't involve itself in tournaments so our focus is purely self defence and our instructor is very keen on making us get the mongrel out when we have to fight.Abanic said:Encore, Encore!alandavidson said:As a self-defense instructor I have to say that I agree with this statement completely. I cannot count the number of times I have seen a person trained in traditional martial arts attempt to perform self-defense in class, only to fail miserably.Thebiggestpanda said:Not to disclaim anybodies asskicking abilities, you really can't know how you'd do in a fight until you actually get into a fight. No matter how much training someone has, if they can't adapt to the pressures of having clear and present danger right in front of them they will lose. I was a competitive boxer for five years and have seen plenty of people hesitate when they need to make a move. In a real fight, hesitation is the same thing as letting your opponent/attacker kill you.
Also, most martial arts schools available to the public don't normally teach their students anything applicable to a real combat situation. They're geared to get asses in seats paying membership fees and not teaching you something that could kill somebody and get you thrown in jail.
Speaking from firsthand experience I would have to say that if you wanted something that could be used in a life or death situation, find a real mixed martial arts gym, learn wrestling, or join the military. If your just looking to be able to kick ass and kill if neccessary, just get a guy who is ex-special forces to teach you a thing or two.
Lastly, if you don't know anything about fighting and find yourself in a situation where you have to defend yourself from extreme violence(worst case scenario), try to use anything and everythig you have on hand as a weapon. do anything you can to put the person in front of you on the ground and then run for help. Remember, in real life there is no fighting fair, there is only making sure your ass doesn't get killed.
The problem is not so much the technique - a good punch or kick is crucial to any fight - it is the mentality. In a ring there are judges and referees to call it off when the going gets too tough. On the street there is no towel to be thrown. The mindset of self-defense is truly one of total brutality, wait for your opponent to strike, then use crippling blows until he cannot or does not wish to continue the fight. It is mostly about timing and brutality.
I know this from experience. I have never been in a streetfight that lasted more than 15 seconds because I knew that if it did the playing field would quickly even out.
BUT MOST IMPORTANTLY, most people do not know how to talk down an attacker and avoid the fight altogether. Keeping cool and talking your way out of conflict is the most desirable course of action. Asking questions, agreeing with your potential attacker, speaking in a calm, soothing voice, rationalizing the situation, negotiating, these are all elements of self defense. Once again, I know this from experience. I have avoided countless fights because I talked my opponent down.
Overall, I think that people are afraid of violence. They see it on TV and in movies and applaud it, but once it comes into their lives and homes they are terrified. People do not realize that knowing violence does not make you a violent person. Violence is a last resort, a necessary evil if you will. Learning brutal action must be accompanied by learning peaceful minds. Only then can you truly be able to defend yourself.
I am loving both of these statements!
A life/death fight needs to be viewed as any other survival situation. The most important thing that you must have is the will to survive. You must be willing to do anything and everything in order to live. The first step in practically all survival situations is to remain calm and take an accurate assessment of what is happening and your own abilities.
Assuming that the worst case scenario is occurring in a fight situation, a survivor must be willing to use everything at their disposal - bite, gouge eyes, punch throat, crush testicles, break kneecaps, use car keys as weapons, etc - do whatever it takes to escape the situation and survive. If you have assessed the situation and come to the conclusion that the only way to survive is to use deadly force, then you must act and not hesitate or your opportunity to survive might be lost.