Oh my god thank you for showing me that, it was awesome. I've just spent the last half an hour or so watching a bunch of them,lRookiel said:
this is probably my favourite one:
Poll: Do you listen to rap?
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this is probably my favourite one:
After groups like Public Enemy faded away, I stopped listening for rap for a long time. But I have actually been listening to Sirah lately--a bit more modern, and while her mix tape is half-pop, her lives material has all the charm of 1980s rap.
Listen to a lot of different genres. Rock will always be my favorite, I think. But I do love hip hop, and there are some rappers I like. Aesop Rock being one of 'em.
My two favorites. And don't even say something like "You can only have one favorite," because you're right. So shut up.
My two favorites. And don't even say something like "You can only have one favorite," because you're right. So shut up.
Then you can count me in on the "yes" answerlRookiel said:
Anyways i've listened to some other kinds of rap to. I've been listening to some Childish Gambino (The guy who plays troy on community raps pretty well) and he's a pretty good rapper.
Hip Hop and Rap are great. I don't believe there is anymore shitty Hip Hop out there than there is rehashed wank Metal, numbingly boring Indie Folkish Rock, piercing Bubblegum Pop, or whatever genre is out there. You just need to find voices and styles that suit you. I think there is some kind of rappin for everyone. Most of the reasons given seem to be rooted in a lack of vision of what hip hop has been and could be.
For every boring or bad rapper there is a Kool Keith or The GZA or KRS-One.
A great M.C. can lay references you won't fully understand until you see some movie or read a book that influenced them to write it and a great producer can find the perfect sample or sounds to enhance the meaning or atomosphere of the lyrics or a great MC can take a sample and give it more meaning than it had before.
Someday I'll finish this all the way to the present, add more to what's already here and post it in full but this took a long damn time to get where it is now. I'm tired of it languishing in my documents folder. I hope some of you enjoyed it.
For every boring or bad rapper there is a Kool Keith or The GZA or KRS-One.
A great M.C. can lay references you won't fully understand until you see some movie or read a book that influenced them to write it and a great producer can find the perfect sample or sounds to enhance the meaning or atomosphere of the lyrics or a great MC can take a sample and give it more meaning than it had before.
Hip Hop came up from block parties in New York City where old soul songs we're played by DJs and people danced the night away. Soon after the dub reggae scene and it's sampling/isolation of break beats was brought to NYC's DJ's attention by Jamaican immigrants. DJ Kool Herc "The Godfather of Hip Hop" and others began using the break beat techniques of dub to stretch older short soul songs into longer pieces. Soon after the older African religious traditions of call and response "WHEN I SAY HIP. YOU SAY HOP" for example, the spoken word of people like Gil Scott-Heron and other verbal traditions began being used over the top of the beats to hype the crowd up. This evolved over time and MCs with fantastic skill took rapping to places it never dreamed. In a way the evolution of the lyricism of hip hop is an arms race of one person topping the next. Graffiti and B-boying have an inexorable place in this as well but this isn't the place for that.
A few older sampled songs. The vid of Kool Herc is really cool.
A few older sampled songs. The vid of Kool Herc is really cool.
The big break through:
Some other classics:
Some other classics:
"My Adidas" almost singlehandedly changed the entire style of rappers. Out with the rhinestones and glam/disco outfits in with the harder street look.
and of course:
and of course:
Beastie Boys - Licsense to Ill: Rick Rubin produces the best selling rap album of the 80s for the legendary Def Jam records.
L.L. Cool J: Had another early landmark Rick Rubin produced album released on Def Jam records. Later began to adopt of Pop/R&B structures in his Rap.
Doug E. Fresh & Slick Rick: Somewhere between the Old and the Gold. Doug E. is a beatbox originator and Slick Rick's influence is heard in Shock G from Digital Underground and more notably Snoop Dogg. Gotta love the Inspector Gadget sample.
Salt and Pepa: It's not just a boys game out there. PUH PUSH IT REAL GOOD.
Salt n' Pepa's response/diss to the previously listed Doug E. Fresh track AND it samples Revenge of the Nerds!
Eric B and Rakim: Classic Production from Eric B. But it's Rakim's lyricism that truly shines.
EPMD: Highly influential to both the east and west coast. Expert lyricism and smooth production on display.
Boogie Down Productions: KRS-One comes out and starts droppin knowledge all over the children.
MC Lyte: One of the very first hard female rappers.
Public Enemy: Chuck D, Flava Flav et al. Came together behind the fire of Chuck D's Social commentary and the explosiveness of the Bomb Squad's production.
Queen Latifah: Man... Queen used to go hard.
Big Daddy Kane. I could listen to him brag all day.
L.L. Cool J: Had another early landmark Rick Rubin produced album released on Def Jam records. Later began to adopt of Pop/R&B structures in his Rap.
Doug E. Fresh & Slick Rick: Somewhere between the Old and the Gold. Doug E. is a beatbox originator and Slick Rick's influence is heard in Shock G from Digital Underground and more notably Snoop Dogg. Gotta love the Inspector Gadget sample.
Salt and Pepa: It's not just a boys game out there. PUH PUSH IT REAL GOOD.
Salt n' Pepa's response/diss to the previously listed Doug E. Fresh track AND it samples Revenge of the Nerds!
Eric B and Rakim: Classic Production from Eric B. But it's Rakim's lyricism that truly shines.
EPMD: Highly influential to both the east and west coast. Expert lyricism and smooth production on display.
Boogie Down Productions: KRS-One comes out and starts droppin knowledge all over the children.
MC Lyte: One of the very first hard female rappers.
Public Enemy: Chuck D, Flava Flav et al. Came together behind the fire of Chuck D's Social commentary and the explosiveness of the Bomb Squad's production.
Queen Latifah: Man... Queen used to go hard.
Big Daddy Kane. I could listen to him brag all day.
Someday I'll finish this all the way to the present, add more to what's already here and post it in full but this took a long damn time to get where it is now. I'm tired of it languishing in my documents folder. I hope some of you enjoyed it.
@Lionsfan & @major_chaos the 4 seconds it took to type that post was completely worth it to see you two americanos get your undies in a twist
i still don't like rap and you can't stop meh! the rest of you may continue to listen to rap my work here is done
i still don't like rap and you can't stop meh! the rest of you may continue to listen to rap my work here is done
I can't stand about 99% of it, but that last percentage can be pretty awesome. I like Flobots, Eminem. Erm. Can't remember who else.
Older rap tends to be better too. Modern 'gangsta' rap is a uniquely terrible genre of music.
Older rap tends to be better too. Modern 'gangsta' rap is a uniquely terrible genre of music.
I'm a metal head really but I like a fair bit of hip hop I've heard, mainly Fliptrix, Jehst, Bliss N Eso, Dirty Dike. Just anything with sick lyrics really.
Yeah when I was 15 and didn't know any better.
Rap = Retards attempting poetry
I kid, I kid....... but not really.
Rap = Retards attempting poetry
I kid, I kid....... but not really.
Yup, but mostly pre 2000 stuff. The only current rappers that I can stand are Lupe (my favourite artist in general), Nas , Joell Ortiz, Cole and Kendrick. The rest are just lame copy cats, the type of "real nigga" that kisses their metaphorical father on the lips and wears jeggings, ex male strippers and ex cops rapping about how much coke they sell. Pretty much everyone in the game today is fake, and it sickens me.
My word... I hate modern rap so much.
My word... I hate modern rap so much.
Don't. It's awful compared to his earlier stuff. Buy Food & Liquor and The Cool, they're some of the best rap albums this decade.Shoggoth2588 said:
2011 was the year I got much more into electronic music
2012 was the year I started really listening to hip hop
A few years ago I vilified it, even this time last year I barely gave it a second glance, but in the end a huge amount of my favourite music from 2012 ended up being hip hop.
I'm predicting 2013 will be the year of indie
2012 was the year I started really listening to hip hop
A few years ago I vilified it, even this time last year I barely gave it a second glance, but in the end a huge amount of my favourite music from 2012 ended up being hip hop.
I'm predicting 2013 will be the year of indie
I absolutely love rap.....when it is done well and has a fucking point. most of the modern mainstream rap is pointless bullshit, but then again most modern music in general is pointless bullshit.
The rap artists I really enjoy: NWA, Dr. Dre, Eminem, Styles of Beyond, Lupe Fiasco, Flipsyde, and recently I discovered Sage Francis thanks to a punk song which I have included below!
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The rap artists I really enjoy: NWA, Dr. Dre, Eminem, Styles of Beyond, Lupe Fiasco, Flipsyde, and recently I discovered Sage Francis thanks to a punk song which I have included below!
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