Only the occasional Kanye West, Jay-Z, Lupe Fiasco, Beastie Boys, or Eminem song. If they can be considered rap rock, then Linkin Park as well. I'm more of a rock person, honestly.
For that kind of music its a natural progression. Evanescence is the casual version of that style, more rock than metal. You have bands like Epica and Nightwish...little bit more focused on orchestra and synth, guitars too...but more synth. Nightwish, Sonata Arctica, After Forever... thats all power/symphonic metal. It then progresses further...if you like the direction of the some of the synth and orchestra but like guitars more? Maybe like songs that are a bit more agressive? Don't mind a little screaming? Then you are heading into Melodic Death metal territory..PunkRex said:Ive listened to Nightwish before, I don't get why so many hate them... this is always what I thought Evanescence should have sounded like.mitchell271 said:It's called Symphonic Metal. Basically, it's a metal band plus an orchestra. The 2 biggest bands are Epica and Nightwish; both of which have tons of albums.PunkRex said:Thanks for this, sounds awesome sauce!
Is a person rapping over a rock music rap or rock?AnarchistFish said:huh??TehCookie said:I don't mind rapping, but I hate rap.
they're exactly the same thing..
Oh wow, I have never even heard of this band. Thanks for introducing me, I think I know what is going on my MP3 player now.mitchell271 said:PunkRex said:Im mainly a Heavy Metal/Classical kind of guy but abit of Bone Crusher every now and then doesn't hurt.When you say Classical, do you mean orchestral stuff? If so,
Both. Rap rock is a hybrid genre. And it's not one which is done well that often. But rapping isn't particularly a genre in itself. It's like calling screaming a genre.TehCookie said:Is a person rapping over a rock music rap or rock?AnarchistFish said:huh??TehCookie said:I don't mind rapping, but I hate rap.
they're exactly the same thing..
I don't care what you listen to. That part of your argument and those criticisms you aimed at the genre were just flawed. The fact that you're now avoiding countering what I said in the last post and responding with something unrelated suggests you don't have a response to it.Smolderin said:It doesn't matter what I think, It was one example in a long list of other reasons why I do not like the music, and the culture it creates. Are you somehow perpetuating that I give rap another chance? I gave it plenty of chances back in my school days, in fact Rap is the first genre of music I used to admire until I actually started to listen to it. I went from Dem Franchise Boyz to other lesser known artists and no matter who I listened to, Rap didn't do anything for me. Over the years I just found more and more reasons to keep clear of Rap, so eventually I moved on to other genres, and from what I have seen, nothing much has changed since then. No thanks, I'll keep to my Rock musicAnarchistFish said:It's as if you think the genre is somehow in some kind of crisis or something. That's not the culture there is when you look beyond the mainstream rappers and that kind of hip hop is thriving on its own terms. You can't dismiss it because of its relation to the other side of the genre. Otherwise you could pretty much dismiss all music because all genres' mainstream forms are watered down, less interesting and generally worse.Smolderin said:AnarchistFish said:Because it's the genre's fault that shitty pop-rappers appeal to people who listen to the charts?
I don't see any argument here. I dislike rap music for the most part because of it's mainstream subject matter and quite honestly the culture that surrounds it. There is only so many times you can try to go to sleep at the night only to be woken up by posers that spent thousands of dollars on car speakers, who insist they keep blasting some song where a barely speaking english male repeats the phrase "bitches and ho's" at least 5 times. No thank you, not for me. How the genre ends up decaying itself is it's own business, but I sure as hell am not jumping on that particular bandwagon.
Don't assume. I didn't counter not because I didn't have a response, I didn't counter cause I didn't want to counter. I didn't want to counter cause it would continue the discussion in which I had no interest in continuing. And why should I? There are no minds being changed here, no point being proven right or wrong. I have answered the thread's question, you disagreed with it, the end. Different strokes for different folks. You think my observations are wrong? Good for you. Sorry the hint wasn't clear enough for ya. Good day sir.AnarchistFish said:Both. Rap rock is a hybrid genre. And it's not one which is done well that often. But rapping isn't particularly a genre in itself. It's like calling screaming a genre.TehCookie said:Is a person rapping over a rock music rap or rock?AnarchistFish said:huh??TehCookie said:I don't mind rapping, but I hate rap.
they're exactly the same thing..
I don't care what you listen to. That part of your argument and those criticisms you aimed at the genre were just flawed. The fact that you're now avoiding countering what I said in the last post and responding with something unrelated suggests you don't have a response to it.Smolderin said:It doesn't matter what I think, It was one example in a long list of other reasons why I do not like the music, and the culture it creates. Are you somehow perpetuating that I give rap another chance? I gave it plenty of chances back in my school days, in fact Rap is the first genre of music I used to admire until I actually started to listen to it. I went from Dem Franchise Boyz to other lesser known artists and no matter who I listened to, Rap didn't do anything for me. Over the years I just found more and more reasons to keep clear of Rap, so eventually I moved on to other genres, and from what I have seen, nothing much has changed since then. No thanks, I'll keep to my Rock musicAnarchistFish said:It's as if you think the genre is somehow in some kind of crisis or something. That's not the culture there is when you look beyond the mainstream rappers and that kind of hip hop is thriving on its own terms. You can't dismiss it because of its relation to the other side of the genre. Otherwise you could pretty much dismiss all music because all genres' mainstream forms are watered down, less interesting and generally worse.Smolderin said:AnarchistFish said:Because it's the genre's fault that shitty pop-rappers appeal to people who listen to the charts?
I don't see any argument here. I dislike rap music for the most part because of it's mainstream subject matter and quite honestly the culture that surrounds it. There is only so many times you can try to go to sleep at the night only to be woken up by posers that spent thousands of dollars on car speakers, who insist they keep blasting some song where a barely speaking english male repeats the phrase "bitches and ho's" at least 5 times. No thank you, not for me. How the genre ends up decaying itself is it's own business, but I sure as hell am not jumping on that particular bandwagon.
Lot more to rap than that.triggrhappy94 said:Some. I don't really like the stuff that's insulting or abusive, just bragging, or rapping about partying.
I really like Andre Nikatina though
Why are you even on these forums if you don't want to discuss things and if you're unprepared to hear your opinions, that you're all too happy to tell everyone, questioned?Smolderin said:Don't assume. I didn't counter not because I didn't have a response, I didn't counter cause I didn't want to counter. I didn't want to counter cause it would continue the discussion in which I had no interest in continuing. And why should I? There are no minds being changed here, no point being proven right or wrong. I have answered the thread's question, you disagreed with it, the end. Different strokes for different folks. You think my observations are wrong? Good for you. Sorry the hint wasn't clear enough for ya. Good day sir.
So you realize rapping and the genre rap aren't the same thing?AnarchistFish said:Both. Rap rock is a hybrid genre. And it's not one which is done well that often. But rapping isn't particularly a genre in itself. It's like calling screaming a genre.TehCookie said:Is a person rapping over a rock music rap or rock?AnarchistFish said:huh??TehCookie said:I don't mind rapping, but I hate rap.
they're exactly the same thing..
It didn't get better after that.evenest said:I haven't listened to a rap record since "Peter Piper picked peppers, but Run rocked rhymes."
I lost interest in it as I developed my musical appreciation and lost touch with some of the friends with whom I listened to that music. It also coincided with a phase I entered where I couldn't appreciate artists who didn't create their music but rather sampled it.