Poll: Do You Still Like ZP?
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Yeah I still like Zero Punctuation. Yahtzee is one of my favourite contributors and I look forward to his new review every Wednesday.
It seems like people stop liking it when they get butthurt about a game they like. I really enjoy game criticism and I enjoy comedy and he's untouchable as far as those two things go. He has said before he doesn't just want to review games and assign numbers to them--he actually wishes to criticize.
There's a huge difference in reviewing and criticism. He isn't IGN or Gamespot. He isn't there to tell you the overall picture. He's there to CRITICIZE it. And hopefully get some laughs in the process.
ZP is still the first thing I watch when I get home on Wednesdays after work and in terms of growing "games are art" movement, I think Yahtzee is at the forefront even if he's doing so with a heavy hand.
There's a huge difference in reviewing and criticism. He isn't IGN or Gamespot. He isn't there to tell you the overall picture. He's there to CRITICIZE it. And hopefully get some laughs in the process.
ZP is still the first thing I watch when I get home on Wednesdays after work and in terms of growing "games are art" movement, I think Yahtzee is at the forefront even if he's doing so with a heavy hand.
Its alright.
I sometimes have to wonder if the humor is really just the combination of the English accent and the overall speed. Honestly any more seems like there is entirely too much I find myself laughing at and then a split second later wondering why. Sort of like a laugh track, in reverse, or through watching years of episodes attaining a level of Pavlovian conditioning to his style.
I would like to think Jim Sterling is far better and funnier, but I find it so hard to do so knowing he has basically ripped off both my ideology and sense of humor.. GET OUTTA MAH HEAD!!!!! So yeah, hard to get really amped up about things I thought years ago =)
But even if Yahtzee has lost a step over the years... at least it is still a world more enjoyable than anything offered up by Movie-Bob. Bob works for the escapist for free... doesnt he
I sometimes have to wonder if the humor is really just the combination of the English accent and the overall speed. Honestly any more seems like there is entirely too much I find myself laughing at and then a split second later wondering why. Sort of like a laugh track, in reverse, or through watching years of episodes attaining a level of Pavlovian conditioning to his style.
I would like to think Jim Sterling is far better and funnier, but I find it so hard to do so knowing he has basically ripped off both my ideology and sense of humor.. GET OUTTA MAH HEAD!!!!! So yeah, hard to get really amped up about things I thought years ago =)
But even if Yahtzee has lost a step over the years... at least it is still a world more enjoyable than anything offered up by Movie-Bob. Bob works for the escapist for free... doesnt he
The problem is as many people have stated that Croshaw has kinda lost interest in it over the years, the basic premise being: "You have five minutes to review a video game as snarkyly as possible" he only really seems to point out the subtitles in the game itself when the contribute to the make factor of the game.
the second issue as he said in an interview is thats its a job now, not something that he's utterly passionate about making each video as unique as possible and the other reason being that (I feel) he has less time to craft a quality script to pack in as much information as possible about the game.
His work schedule (for Australians and other aliens in the same timezone) is get games whenever, decide to play game a little, pick one for ZP to review, start Thursday, finish monday, take notes and hammer into some kind of recognisable script, send off to be edited/producered, animate, finish script, finish animation, record vox for video, edit vox (which ends up as a pain in the arse sometimes).
When you add on running the Manna bars, Extra Punctuation, any other media commitments he has to fulfil, its amazing he has anytime for passion projects like poacher or his novels, of course he might be an insomniac as the poor guy has dealt with some depression recently.
The closest Comparison I can find is a person called Spike Milligan, which better illustrates what I imagine his schedule must be like.
Also to all those people who think he has an Australian accent, Croshaw is a brit living in Oz, with a British accent.
the second issue as he said in an interview is thats its a job now, not something that he's utterly passionate about making each video as unique as possible and the other reason being that (I feel) he has less time to craft a quality script to pack in as much information as possible about the game.
His work schedule (for Australians and other aliens in the same timezone) is get games whenever, decide to play game a little, pick one for ZP to review, start Thursday, finish monday, take notes and hammer into some kind of recognisable script, send off to be edited/producered, animate, finish script, finish animation, record vox for video, edit vox (which ends up as a pain in the arse sometimes).
When you add on running the Manna bars, Extra Punctuation, any other media commitments he has to fulfil, its amazing he has anytime for passion projects like poacher or his novels, of course he might be an insomniac as the poor guy has dealt with some depression recently.
The closest Comparison I can find is a person called Spike Milligan, which better illustrates what I imagine his schedule must be like.
Also to all those people who think he has an Australian accent, Croshaw is a brit living in Oz, with a British accent.
I said Yes, as I still love his reviews for the comedy writing. Perhaps there haven't been so many classic videos lately, but I still look forward to them.
Oh as for them being reviews, I don't pay a blind bit of attention to whether he likes or hate a game. I actually like when he rips apart a game I enjoy
Oh as for them being reviews, I don't pay a blind bit of attention to whether he likes or hate a game. I actually like when he rips apart a game I enjoy
I still enjoy the videos, but then, I never really took Yahtzee's critiques seriously. I always mentally stamped them "For entertainment purposes only" because, if I really took them seriously, I wouldn't play any game at all (pessimistic cynicism is just as much a distortion of reality as naive optimism. I used to be young, too, so I know how it can sound like truth; however, as you get older, you come to realize it's not. Reality almost always lies somewhere in the middle).
His earliest videos are much more humorous, in my opinion, because they don't feel like they're trying so hard to be a gamer curmudgeon; they feel more like a real opinion of the game rather than a forced rant for the sake of ranting. The ones today sometimes feel like he's just shitting on a game just to shit on it. It may also be that he's doing one every week, rather than every 2-3 weeks like in the earlier days, and he's becoming strained to provide a real quality critique on that schedule; plus, with the books and the bar, I can imagine his time is stretched thin.
His earliest videos are much more humorous, in my opinion, because they don't feel like they're trying so hard to be a gamer curmudgeon; they feel more like a real opinion of the game rather than a forced rant for the sake of ranting. The ones today sometimes feel like he's just shitting on a game just to shit on it. It may also be that he's doing one every week, rather than every 2-3 weeks like in the earlier days, and he's becoming strained to provide a real quality critique on that schedule; plus, with the books and the bar, I can imagine his time is stretched thin.
Nothing has really changed, some episodes are funnier than others. I still watch and enjoy ZP whenever a new episode is up.
Yup. Still one of the funniest things on the internet. Still one of the highlights of my web-browsing week. Hope ZP stays the course.
This is a tough one, I still like it, but it isn't as funny as it once was. I think its over exposure perhaps? I never expect Yahtzee to like a game, he even commented himself that when he liked Portal he got complaints from people who wanted to hear him hate on things. To an extent I think he hates on things because it's what the audience expects. He gave quite a bit of shit to Just Cause 2 in his review, then gave it one of his games of the year for that year. Personally I watch his videos for creative insults and amusing turns of phrase, for actual reviews I will go elsewhere. I do read Extra Punctuation, that seems to be more about making a point than taking the piss.
I still enjoy them very much, even though I no longer laugh as much as in the beginning. That is perfectly normal to me, though. He's been making one almost every single week for over five years. We basically know everything about his game-related opinions already, and we got used to his style of humor.
The games coming out these days certainly don't help. How many times can you make jokes about cover-based shooting before it stops being funny?
But as long as he enjoys doing them - and I believe he still does - I'll still watch and enjoy them. Jimquisition is my favorite Escapits show now, though.
The games coming out these days certainly don't help. How many times can you make jokes about cover-based shooting before it stops being funny?
But as long as he enjoys doing them - and I believe he still does - I'll still watch and enjoy them. Jimquisition is my favorite Escapits show now, though.
