You could have a homosexual lead character in the Sims games and make an effort not to kill him/her with fire, electrical shocks, drowning, and killer insects.
Dude, gay people have the same feelings we do. They are not a different species and the feelings of love they feel are exactly the same as straight people, just directed towards the same sex. Of course straight people can relate to gay people's love lives, it's all the same damn chemicals in our brains.Thanatos34 said:Yorkshire_matt said:what kind of moron do you have to be to buy a game based on the sexuality of the main character!!!! I buy a game because A. i like the idea that the story is based on, B. The game looks like it will be good.Thanatos34 said:If the lead character is gay, then I don't think I would relate to him nearly as much as if he was not. I most likely would not buy the game. Plus, I would think any kiss/sex scenes were gross. (I think homosexuality is fine, but, tbh, I still get a sick feeling when I see it being practiced, because I am not attracted to guys.)
I think having the option there is fine, but if it is forced, then that would seriously hurt the game's sales, because only around 3-4% of the population are gay/lesbian, and of the other 96-97%, a lot of them would not "get" it, and many would be repulsed by it.
It might be able to survive, but the game's sales would be hurt, and thus it would be a strange company that would make a game knowing it's sales will be hurt, not because of how good the game is, but because of what content is in it.
Now if you are asking if it could survive if it is an option, then of course it could survive, other games already have done so.
when i go out to buy a game the last thing i think about is will the main character have homosexual conitations
*Sigh* I didn't say I would not buy the game. I said I would most likely not buy the game, as I do not relate to the main character. If the game deals with sexuality, then of course that's going to be a reason whether I do or do not buy the game. If it doesn't deal with sexuality, then I won't consider it.
For an example, let's take a game like The Witcher. If Geralt is gay, I would most certainly not buy the game, because sexuality is such a key part of the storyline, and thus a key part of the storyline would gross me out. If you want to spend your money on that, then go ahead, but some of us have a limited source of income, and thus must use a little judgment beyond, "I LIKE I LIKE I WANT I WANT!" when buying games. It must be worth it.
If you only buy a game because it looks like it will be good, and you like the idea that it is based on, then I'm glad that you can get enjoyment out of games like that, (and that you can somehow afford it.) However, I tend to make a much more... researched decision on whether or not to buy the game, consisting of at least the following:
1. Price of the game, (Which you did not mention at all.)
2. How Violence is done. (Tastefully, Realistically. Not where it is gratuitious and unnecessary, but realistic, if it has a lot of violence in it.)
3. How Sex is done within the game. (Same reasoning as violence.)
4. What my Friends say about the game.
5. Whether I have liked other games by that company.
6. Whether I can play the game well, (judging by its requirements- I only use my PC to play games).
7. What the gameplay is like.
8. What the storyline is like. (Especially if it is based on some book.)
9. What the demo plays like, if there is one. If there is not, then the chances of me being the game just went way down.
These are all equally weighed, with perhaps my friend's opinion and my own, formed from the demo, coming out on top.
I see no reason to spend my hard-earned money on a game where I do not relate to the lead character. Games are for enjoyment, MY enjoyment if they are my games, and if I am cringing at half the dialogue, then I am not enjoying myself. Thus, I most likely wouldn't buy it.
That does seem to happen to a lot of my friend's Sims characters. I wonder if it has anything to do with her leaving her computer in my room....KValentine said:You could have a homosexual lead character in the Sims games and make an effort not to kill him/her with fire, electrical shocks, drowning, and killer insects.
but serriously when was sexuality the last time you considered buying a game? It seems superfulous to anything else to do with the game. when i play a game i spend the most part skipping through the dialogue as i just want to be playing the gameThanatos34 said:Yorkshire_matt said:what kind of moron do you have to be to buy a game based on the sexuality of the main character!!!! I buy a game because A. i like the idea that the story is based on, B. The game looks like it will be good.Thanatos34 said:If the lead character is gay, then I don't think I would relate to him nearly as much as if he was not. I most likely would not buy the game. Plus, I would think any kiss/sex scenes were gross. (I think homosexuality is fine, but, tbh, I still get a sick feeling when I see it being practiced, because I am not attracted to guys.)
I think having the option there is fine, but if it is forced, then that would seriously hurt the game's sales, because only around 3-4% of the population are gay/lesbian, and of the other 96-97%, a lot of them would not "get" it, and many would be repulsed by it.
It might be able to survive, but the game's sales would be hurt, and thus it would be a strange company that would make a game knowing it's sales will be hurt, not because of how good the game is, but because of what content is in it.
Now if you are asking if it could survive if it is an option, then of course it could survive, other games already have done so.
when i go out to buy a game the last thing i think about is will the main character have homosexual conitations
*Sigh* I didn't say I would not buy the game. I said I would most likely not buy the game, as I do not relate to the main character. If the game deals with sexuality, then of course that's going to be a reason whether I do or do not buy the game. If it doesn't deal with sexuality, then I won't consider that in my calculations of whether or not to buy it, obviously.
For an example, let's take a game like The Witcher. If Geralt is gay, I would most certainly not buy the game, because sexuality is such a key part of the storyline, and thus a key part of the storyline would gross me out. If you want to spend your money on that, then go ahead, but some of us have a limited source of income, and thus must use a little judgment beyond, "I LIKE I LIKE I WANT I WANT!" when buying games. It must be worth it.
If you only buy a game because it looks like it will be good, and you like the idea that it is based on, then I'm glad that you can get enjoyment out of games like that, (and that you can somehow afford it.) However, I tend to make a much more... researched decision on whether or not to buy the game, consisting of at least the following:
1. Price of the game, (Which you did not mention at all.)
2. How Violence is done. (Tastefully, Realistically. Not where it is gratuitious and unnecessary, but realistic, if it has a lot of violence in it.)
3. How Sex is done within the game. (Same reasoning as violence.)
4. What my Friends say about the game.
5. Whether I have liked other games by that company.
6. Whether I can play the game well, (judging by its requirements- I only use my PC to play games).
7. What the gameplay is like.
8. What the storyline is like. (Especially if it is based on some book.)
9. What the demo plays like, if there is one. If there is not, then the chances of me buying the game just went way down.
10. What the dialogue is like, (generally this can only be known from the demo, and this lead to probably my most-regretted purchase of all time: Two Worlds.)
11. What the voice acting is like.
These are all equally weighed, with perhaps my friend's opinion and my own, formed from the demo, coming out on top.
I see no reason to spend my hard-earned money on a game where I do not relate to the lead character. Games are for enjoyment, MY enjoyment if they are my games, and if I am cringing at half the dialogue, then I am not enjoying myself. Thus, I most likely wouldn't buy it.
I do not understand where the hell you got the idea that I am anti-gay, nor that I think they are a different species, nor that I think they feel a different kind of love.miracleofsound said:Dude, gay people have the same feelings we do. They are not a different species and the feelings of love they feel are exactly the same as straight people, just directed towards the same sex.Thanatos34 said:Yorkshire_matt said:what kind of moron do you have to be to buy a game based on the sexuality of the main character!!!! I buy a game because A. i like the idea that the story is based on, B. The game looks like it will be good.Thanatos34 said:If the lead character is gay, then I don't think I would relate to him nearly as much as if he was not. I most likely would not buy the game. Plus, I would think any kiss/sex scenes were gross. (I think homosexuality is fine, but, tbh, I still get a sick feeling when I see it being practiced, because I am not attracted to guys.)
I think having the option there is fine, but if it is forced, then that would seriously hurt the game's sales, because only around 3-4% of the population are gay/lesbian, and of the other 96-97%, a lot of them would not "get" it, and many would be repulsed by it.
It might be able to survive, but the game's sales would be hurt, and thus it would be a strange company that would make a game knowing it's sales will be hurt, not because of how good the game is, but because of what content is in it.
Now if you are asking if it could survive if it is an option, then of course it could survive, other games already have done so.
when i go out to buy a game the last thing i think about is will the main character have homosexual conitations
*Sigh* I didn't say I would not buy the game. I said I would most likely not buy the game, as I do not relate to the main character. If the game deals with sexuality, then of course that's going to be a reason whether I do or do not buy the game. If it doesn't deal with sexuality, then I won't consider it.
For an example, let's take a game like The Witcher. If Geralt is gay, I would most certainly not buy the game, because sexuality is such a key part of the storyline, and thus a key part of the storyline would gross me out. If you want to spend your money on that, then go ahead, but some of us have a limited source of income, and thus must use a little judgment beyond, "I LIKE I LIKE I WANT I WANT!" when buying games. It must be worth it.
If you only buy a game because it looks like it will be good, and you like the idea that it is based on, then I'm glad that you can get enjoyment out of games like that, (and that you can somehow afford it.) However, I tend to make a much more... researched decision on whether or not to buy the game, consisting of at least the following:
1. Price of the game, (Which you did not mention at all.)
2. How Violence is done. (Tastefully, Realistically. Not where it is gratuitious and unnecessary, but realistic, if it has a lot of violence in it.)
3. How Sex is done within the game. (Same reasoning as violence.)
4. What my Friends say about the game.
5. Whether I have liked other games by that company.
6. Whether I can play the game well, (judging by its requirements- I only use my PC to play games).
7. What the gameplay is like.
8. What the storyline is like. (Especially if it is based on some book.)
9. What the demo plays like, if there is one. If there is not, then the chances of me being the game just went way down.
These are all equally weighed, with perhaps my friend's opinion and my own, formed from the demo, coming out on top.
I see no reason to spend my hard-earned money on a game where I do not relate to the lead character. Games are for enjoyment, MY enjoyment if they are my games, and if I am cringing at half the dialogue, then I am not enjoying myself. Thus, I most likely wouldn't buy it.
You need to educate yourself.
Also, you do know what they say about dudes who freak out when they see other dudes kissing, right?
Ah well, see, there you and I differ. I love games with storylines that are great, storylines that get me going "Wtf is going on here?" (As long as it is resolved in the end, of course.) Games with great dialogue and witty banter between characters are up there among my all-time favorites. (The line from the Witcher about why Elves hate Dwarves had me cracking up.)Yorkshire_matt said:but serriously when was sexuality the last time you considered buying a game? It seems superfulous to anything else to do with the game. when i play a game i spend the most part skipping through the dialogue as i just want to be playing the gameThanatos34 said:Yorkshire_matt said:what kind of moron do you have to be to buy a game based on the sexuality of the main character!!!! I buy a game because A. i like the idea that the story is based on, B. The game looks like it will be good.Thanatos34 said:If the lead character is gay, then I don't think I would relate to him nearly as much as if he was not. I most likely would not buy the game. Plus, I would think any kiss/sex scenes were gross. (I think homosexuality is fine, but, tbh, I still get a sick feeling when I see it being practiced, because I am not attracted to guys.)
I think having the option there is fine, but if it is forced, then that would seriously hurt the game's sales, because only around 3-4% of the population are gay/lesbian, and of the other 96-97%, a lot of them would not "get" it, and many would be repulsed by it.
It might be able to survive, but the game's sales would be hurt, and thus it would be a strange company that would make a game knowing it's sales will be hurt, not because of how good the game is, but because of what content is in it.
Now if you are asking if it could survive if it is an option, then of course it could survive, other games already have done so.
when i go out to buy a game the last thing i think about is will the main character have homosexual conitations
*Sigh* I didn't say I would not buy the game. I said I would most likely not buy the game, as I do not relate to the main character. If the game deals with sexuality, then of course that's going to be a reason whether I do or do not buy the game. If it doesn't deal with sexuality, then I won't consider that in my calculations of whether or not to buy it, obviously.
For an example, let's take a game like The Witcher. If Geralt is gay, I would most certainly not buy the game, because sexuality is such a key part of the storyline, and thus a key part of the storyline would gross me out. If you want to spend your money on that, then go ahead, but some of us have a limited source of income, and thus must use a little judgment beyond, "I LIKE I LIKE I WANT I WANT!" when buying games. It must be worth it.
If you only buy a game because it looks like it will be good, and you like the idea that it is based on, then I'm glad that you can get enjoyment out of games like that, (and that you can somehow afford it.) However, I tend to make a much more... researched decision on whether or not to buy the game, consisting of at least the following:
1. Price of the game, (Which you did not mention at all.)
2. How Violence is done. (Tastefully, Realistically. Not where it is gratuitious and unnecessary, but realistic, if it has a lot of violence in it.)
3. How Sex is done within the game. (Same reasoning as violence.)
4. What my Friends say about the game.
5. Whether I have liked other games by that company.
6. Whether I can play the game well, (judging by its requirements- I only use my PC to play games).
7. What the gameplay is like.
8. What the storyline is like. (Especially if it is based on some book.)
9. What the demo plays like, if there is one. If there is not, then the chances of me buying the game just went way down.
10. What the dialogue is like, (generally this can only be known from the demo, and this lead to probably my most-regretted purchase of all time: Two Worlds.)
11. What the voice acting is like.
These are all equally weighed, with perhaps my friend's opinion and my own, formed from the demo, coming out on top.
I see no reason to spend my hard-earned money on a game where I do not relate to the lead character. Games are for enjoyment, MY enjoyment if they are my games, and if I am cringing at half the dialogue, then I am not enjoying myself. Thus, I most likely wouldn't buy it.
That's a little... over the top. But it makes my point in a much more blunt way.cball11 said:lokust2001 said:Do you ever play games where you kill lots of people?cball11 said:I wouldn't play it. Nothing against gay people, I just wouldn't be able to feel comfortable playing the part of a gay man. It would ruin the game for me.
On a regular basis, and I fantasize about doing so too. But I don't fantasize about ravaging the asshole of another male.
I win.
I guess they could be really camp. But then Im not really too sure how the plot would go. Or what it would be about... Maybe... Sex and the city: The Video game lolAbedeus said:Wait, why would you make a gay character? What's the point? Just to show some support?
Oh no you didn't!Cliff_m85 said:It already has survived, see Fable 2 or any Legend of Zelda game.
Quite possibly the best "first post" I've ever seen, but I think the TC is thinking of the flamboyant type. Like most lead FF characters, but not pretending to be interested in Lulu.Cliff_m85 said:It already has survived, see Fable 2 or any Legend of Zelda game.
You stated that seeing two men kissing makes you feel repulsed and sick. That usually either makes you homophobic or repressed.Thanatos34 said:I do not understand where the hell you got the idea that I am anti-gay, nor that I think they are a different species, nor that I think they feel a different kind of love.miracleofsound said:Dude, gay people have the same feelings we do. They are not a different species and the feelings of love they feel are exactly the same as straight people, just directed towards the same sex.Thanatos34 said:Yorkshire_matt said:what kind of moron do you have to be to buy a game based on the sexuality of the main character!!!! I buy a game because A. i like the idea that the story is based on, B. The game looks like it will be good.Thanatos34 said:If the lead character is gay, then I don't think I would relate to him nearly as much as if he was not. I most likely would not buy the game. Plus, I would think any kiss/sex scenes were gross. (I think homosexuality is fine, but, tbh, I still get a sick feeling when I see it being practiced, because I am not attracted to guys.)
I think having the option there is fine, but if it is forced, then that would seriously hurt the game's sales, because only around 3-4% of the population are gay/lesbian, and of the other 96-97%, a lot of them would not "get" it, and many would be repulsed by it.
It might be able to survive, but the game's sales would be hurt, and thus it would be a strange company that would make a game knowing it's sales will be hurt, not because of how good the game is, but because of what content is in it.
Now if you are asking if it could survive if it is an option, then of course it could survive, other games already have done so.
when i go out to buy a game the last thing i think about is will the main character have homosexual conitations
*Sigh* I didn't say I would not buy the game. I said I would most likely not buy the game, as I do not relate to the main character. If the game deals with sexuality, then of course that's going to be a reason whether I do or do not buy the game. If it doesn't deal with sexuality, then I won't consider it.
For an example, let's take a game like The Witcher. If Geralt is gay, I would most certainly not buy the game, because sexuality is such a key part of the storyline, and thus a key part of the storyline would gross me out. If you want to spend your money on that, then go ahead, but some of us have a limited source of income, and thus must use a little judgment beyond, "I LIKE I LIKE I WANT I WANT!" when buying games. It must be worth it.
If you only buy a game because it looks like it will be good, and you like the idea that it is based on, then I'm glad that you can get enjoyment out of games like that, (and that you can somehow afford it.) However, I tend to make a much more... researched decision on whether or not to buy the game, consisting of at least the following:
1. Price of the game, (Which you did not mention at all.)
2. How Violence is done. (Tastefully, Realistically. Not where it is gratuitious and unnecessary, but realistic, if it has a lot of violence in it.)
3. How Sex is done within the game. (Same reasoning as violence.)
4. What my Friends say about the game.
5. Whether I have liked other games by that company.
6. Whether I can play the game well, (judging by its requirements- I only use my PC to play games).
7. What the gameplay is like.
8. What the storyline is like. (Especially if it is based on some book.)
9. What the demo plays like, if there is one. If there is not, then the chances of me being the game just went way down.
These are all equally weighed, with perhaps my friend's opinion and my own, formed from the demo, coming out on top.
I see no reason to spend my hard-earned money on a game where I do not relate to the lead character. Games are for enjoyment, MY enjoyment if they are my games, and if I am cringing at half the dialogue, then I am not enjoying myself. Thus, I most likely wouldn't buy it.
You need to educate yourself.
Also, you do know what they say about dudes who freak out when they see other dudes kissing, right?
I simply do not wish to pretend like I am gay- i.e. playing a lead who is gay. I might do so were the rest of the story and gameplay fabulous, but a major part of the story would make me cringe, and thus I wouldn't enjoy it.
They can say what they want about it. I don't freak, I am repulsed by it. I do my best not to show it.
It's just not for me. If they want to do it, all power to them, and the idiots who pass laws against it are being just that, idiots. Doesn't mean I have to get a good feeling inside when two guys kiss, and be like, "Aww, how sweet," in order to think that what they do is okay.
Actually, I got the impression that he meant it was forced. In Fable 2, it is optional.Adfest said:Quite possibly the best "first post" I've ever seen, but I think the TC is thinking of the flamboyant type. Like most lead FF characters, but not pretending to be interested in Lulu.Cliff_m85 said:It already has survived, see Fable 2 or any Legend of Zelda game.
Why would I, a heterosexual, want to pretend I am a homosexual? I'm just stating a fact. It's how I am built, it's in my DNA, yadayadayada. All your arguments for gay people can be turned 180 degrees on this point.miracleofsound said:You stated that seeing two men kissing makes you feel repulsed and sick. That usually either makes you homophobic or repressed.Thanatos34 said:I do not understand where the hell you got the idea that I am anti-gay, nor that I think they are a different species, nor that I think they feel a different kind of love.miracleofsound said:Dude, gay people have the same feelings we do. They are not a different species and the feelings of love they feel are exactly the same as straight people, just directed towards the same sex.Thanatos34 said:Yorkshire_matt said:what kind of moron do you have to be to buy a game based on the sexuality of the main character!!!! I buy a game because A. i like the idea that the story is based on, B. The game looks like it will be good.Thanatos34 said:If the lead character is gay, then I don't think I would relate to him nearly as much as if he was not. I most likely would not buy the game. Plus, I would think any kiss/sex scenes were gross. (I think homosexuality is fine, but, tbh, I still get a sick feeling when I see it being practiced, because I am not attracted to guys.)
I think having the option there is fine, but if it is forced, then that would seriously hurt the game's sales, because only around 3-4% of the population are gay/lesbian, and of the other 96-97%, a lot of them would not "get" it, and many would be repulsed by it.
It might be able to survive, but the game's sales would be hurt, and thus it would be a strange company that would make a game knowing it's sales will be hurt, not because of how good the game is, but because of what content is in it.
Now if you are asking if it could survive if it is an option, then of course it could survive, other games already have done so.
when i go out to buy a game the last thing i think about is will the main character have homosexual conitations
*Sigh* I didn't say I would not buy the game. I said I would most likely not buy the game, as I do not relate to the main character. If the game deals with sexuality, then of course that's going to be a reason whether I do or do not buy the game. If it doesn't deal with sexuality, then I won't consider it.
For an example, let's take a game like The Witcher. If Geralt is gay, I would most certainly not buy the game, because sexuality is such a key part of the storyline, and thus a key part of the storyline would gross me out. If you want to spend your money on that, then go ahead, but some of us have a limited source of income, and thus must use a little judgment beyond, "I LIKE I LIKE I WANT I WANT!" when buying games. It must be worth it.
If you only buy a game because it looks like it will be good, and you like the idea that it is based on, then I'm glad that you can get enjoyment out of games like that, (and that you can somehow afford it.) However, I tend to make a much more... researched decision on whether or not to buy the game, consisting of at least the following:
1. Price of the game, (Which you did not mention at all.)
2. How Violence is done. (Tastefully, Realistically. Not where it is gratuitious and unnecessary, but realistic, if it has a lot of violence in it.)
3. How Sex is done within the game. (Same reasoning as violence.)
4. What my Friends say about the game.
5. Whether I have liked other games by that company.
6. Whether I can play the game well, (judging by its requirements- I only use my PC to play games).
7. What the gameplay is like.
8. What the storyline is like. (Especially if it is based on some book.)
9. What the demo plays like, if there is one. If there is not, then the chances of me being the game just went way down.
These are all equally weighed, with perhaps my friend's opinion and my own, formed from the demo, coming out on top.
I see no reason to spend my hard-earned money on a game where I do not relate to the lead character. Games are for enjoyment, MY enjoyment if they are my games, and if I am cringing at half the dialogue, then I am not enjoying myself. Thus, I most likely wouldn't buy it.
You need to educate yourself.
Also, you do know what they say about dudes who freak out when they see other dudes kissing, right?
I simply do not wish to pretend like I am gay- i.e. playing a lead who is gay. I might do so were the rest of the story and gameplay fabulous, but a major part of the story would make me cringe, and thus I wouldn't enjoy it.
They can say what they want about it. I don't freak, I am repulsed by it. I do my best not to show it.
It's just not for me. If they want to do it, all power to them, and the idiots who pass laws against it are being just that, idiots. Doesn't mean I have to get a good feeling inside when two guys kiss, and be like, "Aww, how sweet," in order to think that what they do is okay.
Also you said that you wouldn't be able to relate to a gay lead and thier love life.
It's amazing, we can relate to psychopathic lunatics, dumb fuck space marines and homicidal megalomaniacal vault dwellers but not a guy who likes to kiss boys.