Poll: Do you think PeTA realizes that humans ARE animals?

[Kirke]

Yes, humans are animals. We are omnivores. But before we stop being mean to other species, shouldn't we try and make peace with all humans?

Of course that will never happen so I'm just going to keep eating meat, as I should.

 

[girzwald]

All this argument does is give credence to PETAS' stance.

If we are animals, then we are on the same level as all the other creatures. And therefore, as the logical beings that we are, claiming we have rights and such, who are we to do what we do to animals? Who are we to give rights to some, but not others?

That made zero sense. Life feeds on life, animals kill animals, so why would one animal be forbidden from doing that? See, this thing can go either way, so no, it doesn't give credence to their stance, nor does it take away from it for that matter. However if you think this:

Its a good thing I'm among the vast majority of people in the world thinks people aren't animals.

One could argue that since we are - somehow (and please clarify how) - higher beings we have a moral obligation to not to treat animals the way we do. But yeah, it falls short on the fact that humans are animals. If not, what are they?

And before anyone says anything. Blah blah blah, science science science, therefore I cannot argue or disagree. Whatever.

Oh... So. Wait, what?

So let me translate this, tell me where I go wrong:
"I have no backing for my stance, and in fact all the evidence points to me being wrong. However I'm going to ignore all that, and refuse to change my view regardless of evidence, with a wave of a hand. Whatever."

Because that's kind of... dumb.

I really have no idea how to respond to anything you said. Because it is beyond clear that you did not understand anything I said, or even tried to. Some other guy that quoted me seemed to get it just fine. I don't know what your problem is.

 

[razor343]

Coming Up: PETA unveils plan to use human hair and skin to make clothes for animals.

 

[Wuggy]

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[CulixCupric]

Coming Up: PETA unveils plan to use human hair and skin to make clothes for animals.

this actually sounds like somethings they would do.

 

[Aurgelmir]

Yes. Its just that they're massive hypocrites and far too prone to knee jerk responses.

The PETA approach seems to be: "A human is doing something to an animal? You fucking monster"

Regardless of what that something is.

Or if there is a real animal involved. Or if its an analogy of an animal. Or if its a video game depiction of an animal. Or if its a painting on a wall. Or if its an excerpt from a book. Or if its completely natural. Or if its culturally significant.

YOU ARE FEEDING THE ANIMAL YOU MONSTER!

Because keeping pets is also animal cruelty... *sigh*

 

[similar.squirrel]

Yeah. We the ones that abuse other organisms needlessly whilst retaining the capacity to know that we could not be abusing other organisms needlessly.

 

[Tentickles]

I keep seeing people responding with: "Humans are more logical, humans are more reasonable."
but what you're forgetting is that we have a subconscious that rules over almost everything we do.

A good example is the Fight or Flight Response. Everyone has felt it at one time or another and if you think back on it right now... did you use your logical/reasonable brain to decide what to do?

Nope, your body did it for you without your active input and that was your response.

We might be the "most evolved" or some such title on this planet but we are still animals in many many ways.

I also see this as underestimating our animal friends. They are smart, very smart. We just don't see them as such because we assume we know best.

 

[EvilPicnic]

I don't mind PETA.

Of course they understand that humans are animals: that is why they want us to treat our fellow animals better. Our difference is that we alone are capable of rational thought and changing our behaviour.

Their campaigns being sometimes short-sighted shouldn't negate their message

 

[Lilani]

In my mind, PETA hates humans. There's no getting around that. They've offered monetary support to individuals convicted of terrorist behavior done in the name of "animal rights." With their advertising, they're just like the Westboro Baptist Church--they don't care about actually getting people to agree with them. They just want to grab the spotlight whenever they can and spout as much hate and crazy as possible before people get tired of it and take the spotlight back. They are both as ineffective and sad as the WBC, and just as the WBC gives Christians a bad name they give animal rights a bad name.

 

[Saltyk]

I think that assumes that PETA even knows what they want. That they aren't insane. Or that there is a single intelligent member within the entire group. Those are dangerous assumptions to make, my friend.

Honestly, at this point, I think they are publicly trolling the world. Which makes them even worse than I already thought they were considering the liars I've met from PETA and hypocrites that run it. I really hope the government stops letting them get away with some of their garbage. They shouldn't be a nonprofit. They should probably be on a list of terrorist organizations, too, considering they financially support terrorists.

I remember reading one of them claiming that we could start dropping food packets to lions so they'd stop eating other animals.

I think they realize that humans are animals, and are holding us up to a higher standard because we comprehend easier, but they'll fix the rest of the animal kingdom soon, just you wait.

You mean like this?

 

[CrazyGirl17]

Doubt it, they're all a bunch of hypocritical idiots... as far as I'm concerned, anyway.

 

[girzwald]

I really have no idea how to respond to anything you said. Because it is beyond clear that you did not understand anything I said, or even tried to. Some other guy that quoted me seemed to get it just fine. I don't know what your problem is.

We said the same thing: The point could be argued either way. And I did understand what you said, I merely disagreed because I think you're wrong. And since it is hard for you to respond, let me take little extracts from my post that you could address, you know, instead of going "neener neener u no understand". If I don't understand what you're saying then try to make me, I have an open but skeptical mind.

...since we are - somehow (and please clarify how) - higher beings...

But yeah, it falls short on the fact that humans are animals. If not, what are they?

So let me translate this, tell me where I go wrong:

There, I clearly gave you multiple opportunities to explain yourself and correct me.

No. You quoted a bunch of things, and gave responses that had nothing or barely anything to do with the quoted statements. Pretty much the equivalent to "i like turtles".

I'm really not going to waste my time.

 

[guntotingtomcat]

we are also omnivores, we are supposed to naturally have meat in our diet, this is why we have canine and incisors for meat, and molars for grinding plants.

Now, I like my meat as much as the next man, but a large percentage of the human population has proven that it is not only possible, but healthy (when done right) to survive on a strict vegan diet. It is therefor plausible that humans could survive without killing animals, or keeping them in captivity.

This means, I think, that we have a philosophical responsibility to carefully consider our stance on the treatment of other animals and animal rights in general.

Peta aren't very good at this, but I have recently began seriously thinking about what I could do to minimize the effect I personally have on pain caused to livestock.

 

[VoidWanderer]

Judging by their... decisions (and I use that word extremely loosely)

Could they be in cahoots with Westboro Baptist Church?

 

[XDravond]

Ha the discussion "humans are animals" I've had before. That was a long one... I did not know until after about 2 months later the guy we were discussing with where a very deep believer (Christian protestant, not that it matters).
We Discussed this "Humans=animals" for ~4 months on the lunch breaks... He refused to say even when we made asked are humans a)animals b)plants c)dead matter... That was funny times
(He did, though, believe somehow in evolution...)

So I do not believe PETA (general, some might be excluded) gets the point humans=animals....

Myself would never want to be associated with PETA even though I'm against unnecessary painful ways of slaughter...
But hey I would not want to live without a big juicy stake and ribs and veil and..... every now and then..

 

[Wuggy]

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