I understand the point they are trying to make but they are just making asses of themselves. People saying "Well I make money and there is no way anyone elese should have my money to fix their problems, because it's MY MONEY MINE MINE MINE." People need to grow a conscious.
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Let me see if I can't decipher and go through your totally wrong points here:Swordsponge said:
3. Uh, Congress and the President never said that the top 5% of the country are going to pay for the supposed $19 trillion. They said that they want to raise the taxes of the top 5% because the top 5% pay a grossly disportionate amount (meaning while they pay a lot, they don't take a big as hit as the middle class). Now, how they are going to do that when the upper class always finds a loophole that allows them to opt out of income taxes is a mystery to me.
4. Then the banks will freaking learn the hard way that people will STOP USING CREDIT to pay for everything. The government will pay the people to pay off the credit now, which will then rob the banks of the 15-25% interest that they could potentially collect over 10 years of squeezing the consumer. And that will kill these so called credit banks who think that we're going to constantly fall for their shitty high-interest crap. They'll have to take the bail out if they think that raising interest rates on credit and loans is the way to go.
5. That's so malformed. The states are raising taxes because they are broke because they are no longer getting earmarks from the Federal government (because that was the fucking platform that every freaking candidate in the election ran for - to remove earmarks) to do their stupid little projects that don't have significant value or yield for the people of the state. The Federal government isn't raising taxes because the gradual increase in people paying taxes (because the population is always growing) is actually increasing their intake of tax money (not enough to cover $19 trillion, but we've always - ALWAYS - overspent in budgets, starting back in the early 1900's). The banks are the greedy motherfuckers who have been playing a game of faulty leverage against a consumer base that can't pay back enough fast enough to cover their costs.
I'm glad the banks are giving back their money. Let that money go to something good, like funding energy research or improving transportation or fixing our power infrastructure. These shitheads in the banking industry need to learn the hard way that pushing the consumer to the limit in the hopes of getting 200% returns over the life of a loan or credit is stupid. At some point, the government is going to swoop in and either abolish the debt or pay it for the consumer, and then the projected profit from the 25% interest rate on credit/loans will fall like a rock. They want you to get stuck paying that credit line for 20+ years at that level (and never paying it off). This break in the economy has brought the focus on this, and now people will either a) leave in droves, or b) default.
Good riddance to bad credit/loan banks.
most of them people have house loans in which they pay for every month. they have kids which they saving for collage already. they have bills debt same as you and i what they dont do is blame you for there bills/debt. nor are they asking you for help its not your responblity becouse they went into debt. but like you and me they pay taxes and they dont believe that only taxing the top 5% tax bracket is going to be able to pay for this 19 trillion dollar debt congress give us. congress= Popularity Contest not a money maker corporation the goverment has never been and will never be able to make money.Agrosmurf said:
making money pisses people off.
I agree we dont have a choice but to pay for congress fuckup they put them stupid fucker in office we pay becouse if the country cant pay back its trillion in loans to china,russian,middle east,Europe they going to debunk the dollar and make there own money top shit wonder how fucking happy they be to do it? worst fucking part we cant say the bailout work when gm is still going bankructy. and the goverment forcing a foriegh buyout of the car comp which cant spell it so i save the try.Eiseman said:
Um... I didn't say I agreed with them. I just said that they have the right, because this is goddamn America.
My point, though, is that they're morons if they think they can make this the Boston Tea Party Part 2. People died over that (Boston Massacre). And these whiners want my pity? I don't think so. But whatever, let them whine anyway.
My point, though, is that they're morons if they think they can make this the Boston Tea Party Part 2. People died over that (Boston Massacre). And these whiners want my pity? I don't think so. But whatever, let them whine anyway.
1.Stop the drug war, legalize weed & tax it. Stop the private prison complex. Offer treatment & education (not scare tactic) programs. They work better & are cheaper.
2Make sure Net Neutrality gets set in concrete (but simple) law. Law simple enough that loopholes cant be found (aka not 100 pages, 2 pages).
3.Make sure guns stay legal & easy to procure (for non-felons). Background checks are good, but a reasonable waiting period needs to be associated with it (not months). (I know there's no evidence Obama wants to do anything about it) It's still very important & one of the best defenses against a gov cascading into a authoritative state.
4.Make sure there's just enough regulation (checks & balances are essential. let no agency be unrestricted) to prevent chaos in the financial system. The same should apply to industry.
5.Make the U.S. false advertising laws more like the U.K. Advertising is 90% lies now, it needs to stop.
6. Increase the standards for testing food. They're too lax and rarely enforced.
2Make sure Net Neutrality gets set in concrete (but simple) law. Law simple enough that loopholes cant be found (aka not 100 pages, 2 pages).
3.Make sure guns stay legal & easy to procure (for non-felons). Background checks are good, but a reasonable waiting period needs to be associated with it (not months). (I know there's no evidence Obama wants to do anything about it) It's still very important & one of the best defenses against a gov cascading into a authoritative state.
4.Make sure there's just enough regulation (checks & balances are essential. let no agency be unrestricted) to prevent chaos in the financial system. The same should apply to industry.
5.Make the U.S. false advertising laws more like the U.K. Advertising is 90% lies now, it needs to stop.
6. Increase the standards for testing food. They're too lax and rarely enforced.
