Poll: Do you think that the world would function well under the Qun?
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Depends.
Trying to impose that system on any society that exists today would be incredibly hard if not impossible. If only because it would constitute such a radical change.
However, once it existed I suppose it might be sustainable... maybe... possibly? Those born into such a system could well accept it. Although it seems to me that such a rigidly organised society based on an unchanging text would itself be resistant to change and therefor ill equipped to adapt to change from outside.
Also, there might be inherent economic difficulties. I really couldn't say, since my knowledge of economics doesn't extend far beyond knowing how to buy food, collect wages and pay rent.
Eh, it's impossible to judge purely on theory.
Trying to impose that system on any society that exists today would be incredibly hard if not impossible. If only because it would constitute such a radical change.
However, once it existed I suppose it might be sustainable... maybe... possibly? Those born into such a system could well accept it. Although it seems to me that such a rigidly organised society based on an unchanging text would itself be resistant to change and therefor ill equipped to adapt to change from outside.
Also, there might be inherent economic difficulties. I really couldn't say, since my knowledge of economics doesn't extend far beyond knowing how to buy food, collect wages and pay rent.
Eh, it's impossible to judge purely on theory.
The Qun would function, because it's not very different from the ideal of several real-world societies. It's basically European feudalism, Confucianism, or the Hindu caste system on steroids, only because it's a fantasy setting, it functions a lot closer to how it's described on paper.
That doesn't make it a good system, however. Planned societies don't do well with radical change, and unforeseen change can happen any time. Liberal democracy's proved fairly resilient and effective at maximizing prosperity, since neither democracy and capitalism assume there's some kind of ideological Golden Truth. Instead, human beings bumble around arguing over what's good and what's bad and hopefully reason prevails enough to not muck things up too badly.
That doesn't make it a good system, however. Planned societies don't do well with radical change, and unforeseen change can happen any time. Liberal democracy's proved fairly resilient and effective at maximizing prosperity, since neither democracy and capitalism assume there's some kind of ideological Golden Truth. Instead, human beings bumble around arguing over what's good and what's bad and hopefully reason prevails enough to not muck things up too badly.
Anthem made me laugh my ass off. The main character goes on and on about the importance of freedom and creativity, and once he gets what he's been fighting for, he proceeds to treat his love interest as a household servant. Pretty much sums up Objectivism for me.TheKruzdawg said:
Why would you? The USSR wasn't remotely socialist.Biodeamon said:
Whether the world would run well under the Qun would entirely depend on how devoted the first generation of people setting up a Qun based society were. In that it's a little like communism. If the first generation took the Qun seriously and didn't let their human natures get in the way, they would be able to pass it on to future generations as a normal and moral society. If not, then I'm afraid some petty despot(like a Stalin) would step in as an Arishok and make it a Qun in name only
If one were to race children under the Qun and restricted access to any and all outside influences then it could go decently for a few generations. Then someone would figure out how the system works and either break it or take control of it, in either case it's not really the qun any more.
If there were outside influences or the people were raised under different philosophies then it wouldn't last a month.
In the end it would fail. It's way too idealised, it expects the people under it to act in a certain way and no other way. It isn't able to deal with everything people can throw at it.
If there were outside influences or the people were raised under different philosophies then it wouldn't last a month.
In the end it would fail. It's way too idealised, it expects the people under it to act in a certain way and no other way. It isn't able to deal with everything people can throw at it.