Poll: Do you think that women being topless in public should be allowed and accepted?

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TransMando

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The reason why it isn't acceptable for women to go topless in most places is because of the negative connotation breasts have as being 'sexual organs' which they are not. Plus when something is covered up all the time and are all of a sudden presented it sometimes weirds people out.
 

Normalgamer

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The real reason is mainly because well, humans made clothes to cover up their shame(No not that biblical shame or whatever about the apple and the snake doing Eve while Adam w- Wait...maybe that was a pron movie.) Ahem, anyway: The reason clothes were invented was because some people were embarassed about their body, thus they cover it up. So even if you passed this law, most woman would still wear shirts, sorry boys, no peep-shows.
I still put yes because I'm a typical male though :).
 

Angerwing

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Um, because the reason men would want women topless in public is because they like to oggle the female body. They don't actually give a shit about being "equal". It's about them getting a free show. Duh.

Also, I have no desire to see another woman's breasts.
Wow, how sexist.
 

skywalkerlion

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Cause nipples on men don't mean anything. On girls it signifies a sexual additude. And there would be...ehh, about 100x more rape in the world if girls went everywhere topless?

I'm just saying.
 

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my response to this is "Yeah women should have to wear shirts." because there are certain rules for every situation. Girls can hit guys, but you're a super-dick if you hit a girl. Are double standards fair? No. Should we get rid of them all at once? No. Let's start with the little things and we'll work our way up.
If a guy hits on me, I don't think he's a jerk. I think he's got the guts to ask a girl out. I politely tell him that I've got a boyfriend and be on my merry.

Double standards are always going to exist. Boobs are for certain occasions. Sorry lads.
 

Pegghead

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Well I've never really understood why men don't wear any kind of shirt down at the beach.

Though I mean when you think about it a bare, flat chest is one thing. But a set of breasts is a whole different agenda. I mean they do count as sexual appendages right? Okay well not technically but shut up. I guess it's just the way societie's evolved.
 

Sparrow

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The sexist in me says: Hell YES.

The anti-sexist in me says: Hell YES.

...help please? I mean, society thinks it's sexist for men to oogle at women's boobs. Yet, the fact that men are perfectly fine whipping out their pecks and women must cover themselves up is in itself, sexist.
 

soul_rever38

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i have to say no and agree with the point in the poll saying that it should only be in certain places, this is only because if people did that in public then i can trust that i will get bored of it
 

Normalgamer

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Radelaide said:
Rawker said:
my response to this is "Yeah women should have to wear shirts." because there are certain rules for every situation. Girls can hit guys, but you're a super-dick if you hit a girl. Are double standards fair? No. Should we get rid of them all at once? No. Let's start with the little things and we'll work our way up.
If a guy hits on me, I don't think he's a jerk. I think he's got the guts to ask a girl out. I politely tell him that I've got a boyfriend and be on my merry.

Double standards are always going to exist. Boobs are for certain occasions. Sorry lads.
He was talking about physical hitting, like a punch.
 

Charli

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Erm it's not really a ...visual problem when it comes to females personally...when you have larger breasts it gets really uncomfortable physically without a top or bra...

That and I really don't want a bunch of perverts oogling my chest unless I have some clothes on really... But hey double standards, I will totally oogle a shirtless guy. ;p

I don't have a problem with it otherwise... If you wanna, go ahead, me no likey.
 

Silva

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It comes as no surprise to me that the option "yes, but only in appropriate situations" is the second most popular on this poll. After all, "appropriate" is a word that might apply to any given circumstances within a person's ideals, so naturally the option has wider appeal than the others. In a controlled poll to really find out the answers on this, you'd want to change the language a bit to narrow things down and specify exactly which "situations" are implied by the answer.

With that said, it is an answer that I agree with within my ideals. You see, being topless is allowed for men, and therefore it should be allowed for women, since otherwise there is inequality between the genders. While it has to be noted in a pragmatic manner that human nature, or at least men's nature, is to enjoy the sight of breasts, this is actually true whether there are clothes are not. In fact, in some African cultures, where topless women are common, it is actually considered more arousing for women to be wearing clothes, so that portion of attraction is mostly environmentally inspired, with the theme of forbidden fruit repeated in every culture, wherever the fruit tree may be planted (usually away from what is normal or common).

If it is true that whatever is not normal is what is sexy, then it is very likely that allowing women to be topless in public places will only have a short term negative effect on the actions of men who find this attractive, since after a generation of this being the law, clothes will suddenly appear more attractive again. Unless great value is placed on the short term outcome over the long term benefits, it makes sense to allow women to go topless wherever it is appropriate.

However, like I said earlier, "appropriateness" is a concept that varies depending on your world view. While it might be appropriate to us for a woman to go topless in a swimming pool or at the beach in Australia, Britain or (some of) America, it may not be so acceptable, say, in Iran. In the Western world, the change of rules would be correct both socially and idealistically, but would run against difficult opposition from religious groups and migrants from places where it is not considered to be acceptable. This means that the rule will probably take a long while to become law anywhere notable - cultural erosion of old values will most likely result in it nonetheless later on. Not to mention, the controversies about where it would be appropriate to go topless could divide people enough to stall any change further. Hopefully a blanket ruling in favour of it will be the first result, followed by amendments where this becomes a mistake. That is probably the best way to go about this legislatively.

There is a chance that there will be a breakthrough with this soon, as the older generation is switching to the baby boomers, who were young during the Cultural Revolution and the expansion of feminism under the leadership of people like Virginia Woolf. Of course, some of these people have become more conservative with age, but the Cultural Revolution is still continuing in many ways today, so liberalism will probably increase in power.
 

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DuplicateValue said:
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It's really not the same thing. That would be (kinda) like if guys didn't have to wear pants in public.

A good motto is: If it can swing, cover it up!

Edit: Of course my 2000th post would have be something like this... xD
How is that in any way like if men didn't have to wear pants in public? Last time I checked women (well, at least straight, sexually active women) damn well enjoyed the site of a fit dude with no shirt on. It's every bit as sexual as a woman being barechested, yet for some inexplicable reason society deems it ok for guys to do it. As for the if it can swing, cover it up motto, why does it not apply to fat guys with man boobs that wouldn't be contained by a D cup?

Similarly, while not illegal, it's considered 'slutty' for girls to wear dresses (not even short dresses necissarily) or clothes that show off the shape of their body, yet nobody ever seems to care when dudes do it...

It's an incredible double standard and I loath that society is so hellbent on it.
I said "kinda"...

But yeah, I get what you're saying. Except for the dress thing - it's extremely normal for girls to wear extremely short dresses or skirts where I live, not slutty at all.

And by the way, you might want to edit slightly - it kinda sounds like you said it's not weird for guys to wear dresses that reveal their figures. :D
Hahaha, yeah, I'm in the process of editing, you're not mean to reply that quickly :S

Yeah, girls can be real bitches to other girls that dress up. I have friends who've literally been abused by other girls for wearing dresses and the like to casual drinking venues, it's ridiculas.
Huh. In my experience, it seems more like a competition to see who can wear the more revealing clothes. Although it never gets to the point of tastelessness, so all is good.
It tends to depend on the venue, but like I said a friend of mine was abused for wearing a dress (not an especially revealing on either, just a generic floral dress) I was 18 and it was a teeny bopper club, so I suppose I shouldn't be surprised at the immaturity of schoolgirls, but I was. I've been to other, more mature clubs since where girls are free to wear whatever they feel without having to put up with shit for it (not in a "I can dress more suggestively than you" way, though I've been to a few uni parties where that was the obvious aim, I can't imagine anyone being called a slut for wearing anything at a party promoted as "sex it up").

I only meant it happens in the worst scenarios, most people are not that retarded. The part that worried me was that I was the only one who was particularly shocked as to how one girl could be visciously labelled a slut by complete strangers on account of her being overdressed, everyone else seemed to think it was normal enough seemed to not care :S
 

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historybuff said:
Um, because the reason men would want women topless in public is because they like to oggle the female body. They don't actually give a shit about being "equal". It's about them getting a free show. Duh.

Also, I have no desire to see another woman's breasts.
Mmm. Sexism and irony, mixed into one.
 

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No, it would de-sensitize men to breasts and porn would lose popularity,
it's what makes everything go round on the internet and other media,
so basically we'd all be shit outta luck if the porn industry went bankrupt
 

zohmbee

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It's legal here. In Canada.

People don't do it though, at least not that I've seen. But I don't think it's rude as long as it's not... y'know, to show off or anything. If it's hot out, I mean... I guess?

...ugh, is there a way to dig up? Nevermind. I don't think it's wrong.
 

Dorian6

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Legally, In the state of New York anyway, anywhere a man can be topless, a woman can be topless.

Personally, I don't understand the problem is. Its a pretty severe double standard to allow men to go without shirts, while being appalled when a woman does the same.

Also, I think that our society's habit of demonizing female breasts is the major contributing factor to mens' fascination with them. If there was a law that said women had to wear gloves at all times, then their hands would be just as appealing.
 

Sparrow

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Miki91 said:
Just admit it guys, you'd be feeling damn uncomfortable with it I'm sure...
Actually, if you were raised in a society where women showed just as much skin as men, would breasts truly be treated as sexual objects? I thought the whole point about the attraction of bewbs was the fact that you can't just pop down your highstreet and see some with the snap of a finger.

...well. Unless you're willing to pay for a prostitute.