Poll: Do You Use the Word "Gay" as an Insult?

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thom_cat_

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Treblaine said:
Fluffles said:
"fucking hell" = hell reproducing?
"FUCK, that hurt!" = SEX, that hurt!
"You're a fucking retard" = You're a intellectually disabled fornicating person

It's the usage of the word that gives it meaning. Just because you don't get how language is used by others doesn't mean shit.
See? Shit doesn't mean faeces there, it means bugger all. Oh wait, bugger all doesn't mean fuck everyone up the ass? It means squat. Oh wait? Squat doesn't mean sit down? IT MEANS NOTHING.

WORDS HAVE DIFFERENT MEANINGS.

GET THE FUCK OVER IT. And stop insulting things you are too ignorant to understand.
Don't be thick headed, fuck and other words are not used LITERALLY, but by ASSOCIATION!

Using the term gay is obviously not literally... merely negative association.

Your argument is let down by your inability to see or think beyond the literal. Beyond the superficial.
How is squat related to nothing? How is bugger all related to nothing? How is shit related to nothing?
I give up, it seems like you're insulting and making useless arguments with a few people in this thread, I'll leave you to troll others.
 

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matthew_lane said:
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No.

I've never understood why it's an insult, And i don't like people who do use it as an insult.
The term Gay as an insult has been co-opted to mean "lame." Which is funny because gay in its previous itteration as meaning "homosexual" was co-opted from an even earlier usage of "happy & care-free".

Co-opted language is so gay.

-M

p.s Also a ****** is a pile of dried sticks, tied with twine used for starting campfires.
I would say co-Opted is a term that no longer applies to these words, I would say they have changed meaning. As examples to show show:

My sister gets engaged and bursts into my parents house and says

Sister: MOM, DAD, HE JUST PROPOSED I'M SO GAY! OH MY GOD I HAVE NEVER BEEN SO GAY IN MY LIFE!
Mom: OH SWEETY I'M SO GAY FOR YOU!
Dad: I'M THE GAYEST MAN IN THE WORLD RIGHT NOW!

See nobody would even dream to hear that and not suspect that those people were not either on lots of drugs or didn't understand the "meaning" of that word.

To the second word:

Me and my buddies are going on a camping trip (not the Brokeback Mountain kind):

Me:I'm freezing I can't wait to get to the camp site and light a ****** on fire.
Friend1: That last ****** didn't burn well, we need a bigger ****** this time.

Now if you over heard that you would assume that these people have set at least 1 person on fire and are planning to set another one on fire as soon as they reach the camp site. I would be very surprised if anybody even thought of "bundle of sticks"
 

zen5887

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I sure do, and if you think I'm a homophobe for that then go ahead. I know you're wrong.
 

EonEire

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zen5887 said:
I sure do, and if you think I'm a homophobe for that then go ahead. I know you're wrong.
Do the gay people who now feel they are not in an environment that is tolerant or around people who wont persecute them know? Its not about how you justify it internally.
 

Lord Honk

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In all meanings of the word, I see none that would work as an insult, for me at least. I don't think that either sexuality or happiness is really something that describes bad attributes in something.
 

Treblaine

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Fluffles said:
Treblaine said:
Fluffles said:
"fucking hell" = hell reproducing?
"FUCK, that hurt!" = SEX, that hurt!
"You're a fucking retard" = You're a intellectually disabled fornicating person

It's the usage of the word that gives it meaning. Just because you don't get how language is used by others doesn't mean shit.
See? Shit doesn't mean faeces there, it means bugger all. Oh wait, bugger all doesn't mean fuck everyone up the ass? It means squat. Oh wait? Squat doesn't mean sit down? IT MEANS NOTHING.

WORDS HAVE DIFFERENT MEANINGS.

GET THE FUCK OVER IT. And stop insulting things you are too ignorant to understand.
Don't be thick headed, fuck and other words are not used LITERALLY, but by ASSOCIATION!

Using the term gay is obviously not literally... merely negative association.

Your argument is let down by your inability to see or think beyond the literal. Beyond the superficial.
How is squat related to nothing? How is bugger all related to nothing? How is shit related to nothing?
I give up, it seems like you're insulting and making useless arguments with a few people in this thread, I'll leave you to troll others.
You know it would be nice to have a response that is in ANY WAY related to what I have already said.

You are asking why I have said things that I did not say!!!

I suppose on some very basic level you will think this counts as a victory, but it is a cop out to dodge the issue that you are a cowardly homophobic bigot. Dismiss me as a troll if you will, anything that keeps up your fantasy that you can continue with your bigotry and hypocrisy.
 

Treblaine

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zen5887 said:
I sure do, and if you think I'm a homophobe for that then go ahead. I know you're wrong.
Wow... it's amazing you think you can cease to be a bigot merely by saying you are not.

I mean after all, you are proven not by what you do... but merely how you define yourself (sarcasm).

Give me a break. You're just a bigot in denial.
 

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Treblaine said:
HentMas said:
we use gay, but not as an insult, more like a way of saying "what you just did" or "what you just said is something homosexual people does or says"

wich is only an insult to people that are either homophobics or plain stupid

ex:
"oh! i want that spotted dick in my mouth!!"

"hah, that sounds gay"

get it??
That's crude but I'd accept that.

I'm not obsessed with political correctness, the joke there is clearly the incongruity between his intentions and how it seemed, i.e. he isn't gay but he said something that inadvertently implied he was.

If anything that would make a gay person feel less ostracised, friends able to see the light hearted humour in homosexuality.

But if the response had been:

"That's fucking sick man, I don't want to hear about dicks and... eugh... shut the fuck up"
exactly, its just a dumb joke, my group of friends actually are really open to hugging and holding hands and stuff like that, its not rare to greet another guy by kissing him on the cheek, we act "Pretty gay" if you wish, and i firmly believe that to use the word gay as an insult you have to be homophobic, which we are not.

a good example of this would be

we get toguether on the pizza parlor, a friend huggs and kisses another friend on the cheek, i make the remark "hey! what are you, gay??" to wich their response will imediatelly be "what? you jealous??"

and my response is always "YES!"
 

zen5887

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Treblaine said:
zen5887 said:
I sure do, and if you think I'm a homophobe for that then go ahead. I know you're wrong.
Wow... it's amazing you think you can cease to be a bigot merely by saying you are not.

I mean after all, you are proven not by what you do... but merely how you define yourself (sarcasm).

Give me a break. You're just a bigot in denial.
I should mention I use it as a playful insult among my friends, meaning that it is a joke. That message might not of got across.

For a place that rages so hard when "political correctness" gets out of hand, you guys are taking this pretty seriously.

Anyways.. I'm gonna leave this here.

 

Treblaine

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zen5887 said:
Treblaine said:
zen5887 said:
I sure do, and if you think I'm a homophobe for that then go ahead. I know you're wrong.
Wow... it's amazing you think you can cease to be a bigot merely by saying you are not.

I mean after all, you are proven not by what you do... but merely how you define yourself (sarcasm).

Give me a break. You're just a bigot in denial.
I should mention I use it as a playful insult among my friends, meaning that it is a joke. That message might not of got across.

For a place that rages so hard when "political correctness" gets out of hand, you guys are taking this pretty seriously.

Anyways.. I'm gonna leave this here.

Ughhh, over-reaction to political correctness is ANOTHER straw man argument. How about you face up to what I actually challenge you about rather than retreating back to broad generalisation and then pick a more defensible, but unrelated point.

There is a huge difference between being Politically Incorrect and Vile Bigotry like homophobic insults.

It is a playful insult to you because you are an uncaring selfish fool who does not know, does not want to know, and ultimately does not care about the very real harm they are causing and how much they are emboldening and enabling hateful and violent bigots. The bullies, oh they fucking laugh, it's a joke to them, it really is an utterly psychotic and sociopathic mindset that simply because they can see the funny side then everyone should.

Fucksake. You make them the butt of your jokes and expect them to laugh along. You bully!

You fucking bully!

Your video jokes about being offended doesn't hurt anyone. What about all the teenagers and young men who are driven to vagrancy or suicide by homophobic bullying and ostracism? Lives of isolation and secrecy.

Are you totally indifferent to the harm you cause? Are you wilfully ignorant? Do you simply NOT GIVE A FUCK who you hurt? Even if you don't directly tell them to hang themselves you encourage the worst bullies to go that one step further and push away from you friends who may want your support.

Indifference.

This comedian you show to me, teased the public for being indifferent and ignoring the homeless. You ignore the suicides. You don't want to even think about it, what part you play in their desperation to choose death over living in a world with people like YOU in it.
 

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Occasionally, because of my language I guess. It is the official word for homosexual people in Bulgaria so when you want to offend someone you use slang terms, not the official ones. Like we say pederast a lot more, meaning homosexual in general (despite the greek origins, meaning male who likes young boys). Also not really as an insult to someone's sexuality but mostly to say that someone is different, acts different or is doing something completely opposite of what's expected or normal. Ever since I came to germany, I've been straining from insults with international meaning :)
 

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to be honest, where i am at (Midwestern USA) the use of the word as an insult is dying out anyway. Now its just used to describe something that heavy implies homosexuality, like Sanji's level from Persona 4.
 

zen5887

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Treblaine said:
Ughhh, over-reaction to political correctness is ANOTHER straw man argument. How about you face up to what I actually challenge you about rather than retreating back to broad generalisation and then pick a more defensible, but unrelated point.

There is a huge difference between being Politically Incorrect and Vile Bigotry like homophobic insults.

It is a playful insult to you because you are an uncaring selfish fool who does not know, does not want to know, and ultimately does not care about the very real harm they are causing and how much they are emboldening and enabling hateful and violent bigots. The bullies, oh they fucking laugh, it's a joke to them, it really is an utterly psychotic and sociopathic mindset that simply because they can see the funny side then everyone should.

Fucksake. You make them the butt of your jokes and expect them to laugh along. You bully!

You fucking bully!

Your video jokes about being offended doesn't hurt anyone. What about all the teenagers and young men who are driven to vagrancy or suicide by homophobic bullying and ostracism? Lives of isolation and secrecy.

Are you totally indifferent to the harm you cause? Are you wilfully ignorant? Do you simply NOT GIVE A FUCK who you hurt? Even if you don't directly tell them to hang themselves you encourage the worst bullies to go that one step further and push away from you friends who may want your support.

Indifference.

This comedian you show to me, teased the public for being indifferent and ignoring the homeless. You ignore the suicides. You don't want to even think about it, what part you play in their desperation to choose death over living in a world with people like YOU in it.
God damn son.. You got a lot of tension in those shoulders.

Lets break this shit down.

What am I backing down from? Now, I could be missing something here but I think you want me to argue you calling me being a bigot? You can call me whatever you want, in the end I don't really care what you, someone I'll never meet, thinks. I know who I am and how I think and my friends and family agree.

Its a playful insult to me because well... It is. I don't mean any harm when I call my straight friends gay, and they don't take offence to it, nobody gets hurt and we all have a laugh. I cop it as much as I dish it out. Now, if I went around screaming "you're such a ******!!" to one of my gay friends, you might have an argument and you would have pretty good reason to call me a bully. But I don't, instead I hang out with my friends and say things like this.

Me: I'm thinking of going vegetarian.
Friend: Hah! Do you want some dick with your salad?
Me: No, because I wouldn't eat meat.

And we all laughed.

Also, swearing and pressing enter doesn't help get your point across any better.

Doesn't fucking help.

It isn't really fair to compare me to the same people who drove the teenagers to suicide. Those people are the real bullies, and your steaming hatred is better directed at them then at me. If I said something to a friend and it hurt them I would apologise and not say it again, I keep my 'bad taste' jokes to myself unless I've known someone for awhile and I don't say any harsh swear words in front of strangers.

Call me a bully all you want, but I'm just a dude who likes to joke around.

Fucking joke around.
 

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I used to say it all the time in 6th grade, since all the kids were doing it too instead of shouting obscenities.

Now that I CAN freely throw around all the flibbity-flabbity-fuck words I want, I don't really use it much anymore.
 

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Easy Street said:
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ever sinse i was a kid and everyone i knew semed to throw the word "gay" around to insult others, i've been baffled by the reason for this. my question is, do the other escapees use the word "gay" as an insult and, if not, what they think of others that do
Well, I'm gay so..no.

Some people use it as a description, as in "That's so gay." but there isn't really an intentioned negative slant. Some people dislike even that reference, but I feel those people are a little too over-sensitive.

The only time it pisses me off its used in an actual attempt to hurt someone in an insulting manner. I rarely come across that. In fact, I can't even remember the last time I heard someone use the word "Gay" with hate behind it, thankfully.
well yeah, i guess using it to casually express a distaste for something isn't as bad as using it maliciously, but i still don't like the idea of it being used negatively
 

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I used to all the time in middle school, but upon entering high school I stopped completely. It only slipped out when I was in outburst mode.
 

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I do it very ofen, I don't have anything against gays and I'm bi but everbody around me allways used the word in ways that "that's so gay dude..." fuck off you ******" and stuff like that, and it ended whith I started using it too...