Poll: Does anybody give a shit about PC gaming anymore?

[phar]

inb4 this turns into another PC vs. console mud wrasslin' match,
IMHO the big publishers prefer consoles; partly because there's less piracy, partly because it's a little easier to write games for fixed hardware configurations, partly because they can put a lot less effort and depth into the game and still make a packet.

Meh, there's just as much piracy on consoles (360, PSP, DS, etc...), as PC, if not more. I actually buy my PC games. I know 360 owners who have towers of DVD's with burned 360 games.

Your kidding right... The piracy rate on Wii and 360 is nothing compared to PC

I didn't say Wii. But 360, absolutely, it's easier to pirate games for the 360 than it is for the PC, actually. Takes about an hour to mod, and boom you can download any 360 image and burn it straight to DVD. Whereas, with PC's, developers have gotten good at making things...difficult (not impenetrable...but still difficult), sure, I can go and find any game I really want for PC. Fact is, I own them all anyway. Not to mention sometimes having to use daemontools, or some other virtual drive to mount an iso. Etc... Or cracks and keygens etc... Yeah, it's easier to pirate games for a 360, and out of everyone I know, more 360 pirating happens than PC.

Bar the newest 360s you have to know what your doing and have all the right tools and equipment to mod a 360. Its really not a 2 hour job with having to learn what to do and all that. If I was to do it again sure it would take 30 mins but first time it took me like 3-4 nights after work of playing with it. I dont think many people would bother or risk their consoles doing it.

Im not saying that people dont pirate 360 games its just no where near the level that is on PC.

What your group of friends does does not make it for the whole, all my friends have never purchased any PC bit of software or games (including operating systems or anything) yet have a massive library of 360/PS3 retail games.

 

[RufusMcLaser]

Meh, there's just as much piracy on consoles (360, PSP, DS, etc...), as PC, if not more. I actually buy my PC games. I know 360 owners who have towers of DVD's with burned 360 games.

Your anecdote aside, that's news to me. Correct me if I'm wrong, console types: do the Big Three not require physical modification of the hardware to run burned (i.e. pirated) games? 'cos with the average PC game it's
1. download,
2. crack (optional- if it's not pre-cracked), and
3. play.
It's just conjecture, but I suspect a greater percentage of PC gamers are pirating than console gamers.

 

[Cryfear101]

With the new World of warcraft expansion coming out , Cataclysm , ermmm no!

 

[Circus Ascendant]

There should be an option saying "I don't give a flying shit, but there are LOADS of people who do, how the fuck didn't you notice that?"

 

[FallenJellyDoughnut]

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Agreed.

 

[mrF00bar]

They pull out this argument every 2 years or so, then a 'killer app' comes along and proves them all wrong etc. It's just boom and bust, PC gamings not going to die.

/agree.

PC gaming is always going to come out on top, not unless the xbox or ps3 can start printing money.

 

[Sebenko]

Yeah, things are bad now. But they were bad then.

We've always had crappy versions of console games- Fire warrior, 2003? that was definitely a console menu layout, the scope on your gun didn't work on PC (On console, it had a picture in picture effect)

But I remember what's good about PC gaming- I spent a few minutes on oblivion doing instant 180 degree turns, back and forth. Try doing them that fast on a console.

And C&C 4 is PC exclusive, apparently (good to see EA behaving for once). I've heard some positives about Rage, if statements by someone who works there about PCs is correct.
Alright, I'm still worried about the new mechwarrior, but if it all sucks in the end, we can do something console owners can't- DDOS the dev's website XP Or start a petition.

 

[Klepa]

I've sat through a great two hour lecture of Joonas Laakso, a producer in Bugbear Entertainment, and he pretty much told us that game devs hold a party if their PC release isn't illegally downloadable before the game's release. He also said that if the game isn't cracked in two weeks after the release, most consumers will get frustrated and go and buy the game.

Which was the biggest reason why Bugbear, and many others, don't do PC anymore. So if PC gaming ever dies, it'll be because of piracy. Making a game work with all sorts of rigs can be hard, yes. However it doesn't even come close to the shitstorm of having 40 people work on a PC version for two months, then releasing it, watching everyone downloading it illegally, and wondering where you'll come up with 400,000 bucks to pay their salary.

 

[sirdanrhodes]

Look. Companies want to make as much profit as they can, and consoles have a larger consumer base. If you want to make profit, where would you dump your time and effort.

Also, with a PC, bug patches don't have to go through certification to be released.

 

[Artemis923]

So long as people are on Diablo II, I'll be on my PC.

 

[spuddyt]

2 things to say

Spoiler: second

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Spoiler: first

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yes that was intentional

 

[TheRealCJ]

Look at a game like Arkham Asylum. I've actually been TOLD by various gaming blogs to not buy the PC version, something about, oh, I don't know, a bug that won't let you install the game, or play past a certain level.

You know, I read that same article, and you know what the "bug" that won't let you past the level is?

Creative DRM. If you downloaded it illegally, you get to that point and your cape doesn't work.

As for bugs or whatever, you ever heard of patches?

Yeah, if only they'd removed it from the retail copy.

As for patches, I'd rather be able to play a game I bought today today, not next week.

 

[TheRealCJ]

The spelling on your edit is atrocious.

That would be all the RAEG at the TL;DR idiots manifesting itself in my typing.

 

[oppp7]

I don't get it either. Every genre that I can think of plays better on a pc. I have a Wii and Xbox, and I don't plan on getting another console. They're just rip-offs.

And as for those bugs, they're due to the companies being assholes to the consumers. MMOs won't work on consoles because they can't update daily.

 

[oppp7]

Spoiler: second

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I think he has a legitimate argument. Consoles are worse than pcs but get treated like they're the work of god.

 

[Tonimata]

Not pc gaming on my PC, that is automatic mental suicide.

Playing on an internet cafe is a-ok however, so as long as we have that.

Monthly game overnights for the win!!!

 

[TheRealCJ]

Spoiler: second

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I think he has a legitimate argument. Consoles are worse than pcs but get treated like they're the work of god.

You don't get it: He doesn't agree with my point-of-view, therefore: I am a troll.

 

[Tron900]

once you go FPS on PC;

YOU.......NEVER....GO.....BACK!

The only reason i still have my PC is that online gaming is easier, faster paced and consequently, much more fun.

Not saying consoles are gash, far from it, I was so impressed with the performace of the PS3, I waited a year to let them work out the bugs and bought one. And i'm really happy with it.

In terms of PC titles being buggy compared to their console counter parts, if you look at the range of hardware for PC's, it's biblically bigger than a mass porduced console, which has pre-defined hardware.

so all those drivers, patches and extra code needs to be developed for PC titles to take into account your individual setup.

whereas Consoles, its simple: "does it work? - yes, right pack it and print it!"

Special and collectors editions.....well, so you got a metal tin and some artwork and sometimes a t-shirt. Who cares, if your that bothered, eat a large tin of altoids and put a jewel csae in it, go and download the artwork, and I'm sure your local t-shirt print shop will make you the title related t-shirt in your size and in a style you'd like for the difference between the special edition and standard.

 

[dweomermaster]

my poor PC is pretty much an antique so PC games aren't much of an option for me

 

[Assassin Xaero]

Here's the thing, Say I want to get Modern Warfare 2 prestige edition, but don't have a PS3/Xbox. What am I to do? Why do companies feel that special editions are only for console gamers? Mabye I'd like a metal hardcase to put my install DVD in.

You forgot that they also raised the price for the normal PC edition to 20% more then other games when they are released... Annoys me that they are doing this shit and the Call of Duty genre started on PC...