Poll: Does anyone really take Trump's "presidental run" seriously?

[emeraldrafael]

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because both are on the verge of bankruptcy, and the people that are paying into them wont see them till progressively later stages in their life, and may die before seeing it.

 

[godfist88]

at first i thought trump would be a great conservative candidate for 2012, because he's a awesome business man, but I latter came to realize that his methods may be a little too extreme.

 

[CM156_v1legacy]

Honestly, I don?t think so. That being said, I would never vote for Obama. I don?t like what he said about taxes, and I don?t like his policy on healthcare. As a right-leaning Libertarian, the Republican party usualy lines up with what I want.

So likely, I shall vote for whoever the Republicans run. If that would be Trump, so be it.

EDIT: Great way to troll my teachers though "Yep, I can vote this time around, and I am going to vote for Trump/Palin"

 

[Booze Zombie]

I hear that after Obama roasted him, he is taken even less seriously now. Funny, that.

Honestly, I don?t think so. That being said, I would never vote for Obama. I don?t like what he said about taxes, and I don?t like his policy on healthcare. As a right-leaning Libertarian, the Republican party usualy lines up with what I want.

I never got why Socialist healthcare bothered Americans.

 

[Plurralbles]

... I think this is the kinda' thing that makes people hate politics...

THe guy needs to shut the fuck up and go back to his private island or whatever. President...pfft.

 

[Yureina]

Nope. Trump is not a serious candidate. I think his name has come up several times before as a possible candidate, but it never has gone anywhere. I have no reason to believe this will be any different.

 

[SenseOfTumour]

By law, in order to run for president of the United States, you must make all of your assets and finances public domain. I have serious doubts that Trump would want any of his actual finances known by the general public. For all his blustering about Obama's birth certificate, if he were to run, all his sordid monetary past would bite him in the ass. He would also have to release his current net worth, which I'm sure is a secret he wants to keep.
He will keep bullshitting until the last minute, and then throw his support behind whoever the Republican frontrunner happens to be, in an effort to boost their support.

I think it was on the Bugle podcast, (Andy Zaltzman and Jon Oliver, the British one from the Daily Show), they said after Obama brought out his birth certificate, he should have then demanded Trump gave up some personal info of his own, like his financial records, lets see how much tax he's been carefully avoiding with the use of cunning accountants, how much he's actually been supporting the America he loves.

Failing that Obama should have just asked to see the birth certificate of whatever's living on Trump's head. It's slightly more amusing all this news for the UK, as over here, 'Trump is a childish piece of slang meaning 'fart'.

If this all seems puerile, I'm trying to reduce the debate down to the level where birther types might be able to understand it.

 

[Saelune]

Well, the good news is, with people like him and Newt running, Obama is practically guarenteed to win. If he doesnt though, then I know that it really is the end of the world.
(As much as anyone may dislike Obama, I cant see how anyone likely to run so far can be seen as a superior choice to Obama.)

That's not really good news, you know. That's like trying to find the least smelly cowpatty after a big rain.


On a more serious note, the next presidential election is the first one that I will be voting in. I think we need another economist in office or something, somebody who wants to get our economy back up and running instead of apologizing to every country like Obama has been. So far, I haven't done much research into politics, so before I declare even to myself who I'm going to vote for I'm going to get a bit of backstory on each candidate. Including Trump.

BTW, I heard him (Trump) say in an interview on TV something about taxing all those imports from China, trying to bring industry back here. Here's how you bring industry back here: Lower the fucking industry taxes. They're fucking huge right now, a lot of companies would come back to America and give us more jobs and produce better quality products if we gave them a better incentive to. Damn.

Also, any politician who gives details on how he's going to do what he promises and not just what he's going to do has my respect, whether I agree with him or not. So far all Obama has said, I believe moreso than Bush, is a bunch of empty words and promises with the phrases "I will..." and "...the American people..." sprinkled in there several times for good measure. He never, ever actually says anything of use or gives any real, outright information. Stop beating around the Bush (see what I did there?) and tell us something! And what happened to all that government transparency and all those jobs you promised, Obama? You know, all the ones that were supposed to be permanent?

Well, Im a human being, so I cant vote for a conservative who is going to make me into a second class citizen, or atleast try to. Im likely to have money issues either way, but with a democrate as president, Im more likely to be equally poor than being poor because Im a sinful abomination according to God. (Im part of the LGBT community, lets leave it at that)

Let's clear something up: every single person on this planet is a sinful abomination according to God. Your choices make you no more a sinner than I am. That's what the Bible says, everyone's a sinner; conservatives do tend to twist the Bibles' words a whole lot, especially when it comes to the LGBT community.

Though, being a straight white Christian with a slightly southern accent probably does give me a better chance at making good friends with conservatives... Regardless of conservative, liberal, Democrat, Republican, what have you, most politicians don't really seem to be out to help the little guy. Not at all. I'm voting for the guy that will put the most money in my wallet.

Also, I don't consider myself as belonging to any of those parties. Neither liberal nor conservative.

That doesnt change the FACT that most any republican, who most likely will be a conservative WILL vote against every LGBT thing. Hell, they could say that the TV guide says gays are bad. Doesnt matter if its true or not, what matters is what they do and dont make legal. And by everyone is a sinner, I assume you are primarily reffering to origional sin? Dont get me started on how fucked up THAT whole thing is.

No need to take offense, I didn't mean any. And if you'll notice I did mention the very thing you're angry about; conservatives (and Republicans sometimes) tend to use the Bible for their own means. Also, I'm not referring to original sin, I'm referring to several different passages in the New Testament that say everyone's a sinner. That's why Jesus needed to die for our sins and by this point you are rolling your eyes either in anger or annoyance, or both, aren't you?

Relax, I meant no offense. I don't see how any was taken.

I wasnt offended. I just get really passonate...and aggresive on this issue. Hard not to, since its a topic that one ofthe main issues is the worth of my humanity. It was just you seemed like you might have been taking what I said as an issue with what christianity says instead of what christians do.
Personally, I think that Jesus fellow is a great guy, but most Christians dont follow Jesus. If they did, they would be pro gay rights, or atleast tolerance if we really are evil. (We arent, but you hopefully get what I mean)

 

[CM156_v1legacy]

I hear that after Obama roasted him, he is taken even less seriously now. Funny, that.

Honestly, I don?t think so. That being said, I would never vote for Obama. I don?t like what he said about taxes, and I don?t like his policy on healthcare. As a right-leaning Libertarian, the Republican party usualy lines up with what I want.

I never got why Socialist healthcare bothered Americans.

Socialism is kinda a buzz word round these here parts. A good number of people, myself included, don?t want it.

My beef with it lies with the fact that my father is a doctor. Most of the ?doctors kids? as we call ourselves (or at least the ones I know) resent government involvement with health care. In fact, my father is considering ending his practice, which would be a shame.

I don?t like the direction Obama is taking our country, so, yes, I would rather vote for most any of the Republican candidates, Trump included, over our current president.

Wow, this turned into an off topic rant. Sorry bout that.

Anyways, I think Trump is using this as a publicity stunt more than anything else. And I really, really, wish he didn?t follow the birther movement in demanding to see Obama?s birth certificate.

Hear me fellow right wingers: Obama was born in America. Drop it. Look at the many other things he has done as reasons to dislike him. But for God?s sake, shut up about Obama being born in Kenya. It's over. He was not.

 

[Booze Zombie]

Socialism is kinda a buzz word round these here parts. A good number of people, myself included, don?t want it.

My beef with it lies with the fact that my father is a doctor. Most of the ?doctors kids? as we call ourselves (or at least the ones I know) resent government involvement with health care. In fact, my father is considering ending his practice, which would be a shame.

I don't like the direction Obama is taking our country, so, yes, I would rather vote for most any of the Republican candidates, Trump included, over our current president.

It's funny though, because with the Socialist healthcare systems in Britian and Canada doctors feel much less stressed due to the greatly reduced involvement of insurance companies.
Also, you know, poor people don't have to choose between keeping either a thumb or a finger, arm or a leg, etc, etc.

 

[Haydyn]

I take his run seriously. Why? Because apparently he does have support out there. I take it seriously because I view his presidential run as a huge threat. Not only do I not want Trump anywhere near the presidency, I don't want it being Obama vs Trump in the election. Come to think of it, I'm not really pulling for any Republician. I'd rather have a Democrat upsurp Obama due to lack of stepping up and taking charge. God forbid that, you know, an independant becomes president.

Oh, and if we are going to start talking about a "woman's right to chosoe what she does with her own body", can I at least mention that A) There is another body involved and B) I already don't have the right to choose to increase THC levels in my body (and now I can't even talk about it on the escapist), so why should women have a right to stick a vacuum up their vajayjay and take a human life? But now I'm getting off topic, and before anyone flames me I'm not against abortion.

Despite how crazy Trump is, and I mean the bad kind of crazy, I'd rather him be president (he already thinks he runs the free world and is the single handedly best human ever) than Romney. Telling a man in a wheelchair that he would put him in prison for smoking medical marijuana? Asinine.

 

[Sonic Doctor]

Yes I do take his run seriously; I would vote for him.

If the Republican party was serious about winning, they would just select Trump right now as their candidate, because if they don't, he will run as an Independent and will take a load if not more than half of the Conservative vote away from the other person that would be running for them.

If they really want to show they care about the economy, they will select him, because of his success and knowledge of such business matters, he would be best for these times.

But in the end, I know I will be voting for who isn't Obama. It's pretty hard to imagine the country electing someone that could beat Obama's status as the worst president in US history. But then again, the country did elect him in the first place. Though if the nightmare does come true, that he wins a second term, at least I know it will be his last.

His latest publicity stunt was erecting a seven story flag pole on a golf course owned by Trump himself. Not only a tacky addition, the flag pole is endangering helicopters, and in direct violation of the county law. Now, when challenged by the local town's major to take down the pole, Trump is able to claim patriotic superiority; no doubt making him a hero for flag rights in the eyes of his supporters.

What kind of helicopter pilots are in that area? Are they drunk or possibly blind?

Seven stories isn't that tall, around 70 feet. I know a couple flagpoles around where I live that are at least 40 or more feet. This is easy to see because one of the restaurants in a city near me has out front what I would consider the city's flagpole and it is twice the height of the restaurant and the restaurant is two stories.

30 more feet isn't all that much higher, definitely not high enough to interfere with helicopters. Every helicopter I have seen in that city flies way higher than seven stories, and they don't get that low until they are extremely close to their landing site.

So, is this flag pole of his sitting smack dab in the middle of the landing pad? Because that is the only way it can interfere with helicopters.

The whole situation to me sounds like some Americans that are mad that he actual show some pride for the country. Knowing those 40 foot flagpoles and how big around they are and thinking logically on how big around one that is 70 feet would be(which would be no more than a few feet around), figuring in length of the waving flag in the air, the area that that flagpole takes up would only be 25 square feet give are take a few feet. If a helicopter pilot can't avoid that small an area, than the pilot shouldn't be flying. The only way they could hit it is if as I asked, the pilot is drunk or blind, unless there is some gigantic super magnet attached to it that pulls helicopters straight towards it.

Again, the story sounds like a bunch of bull.

By the way, since this thread has to do with politics, it should be in the Politics and Religion section.

 

[BrownGaijin]

If we've learned anything from voting in Schwarzenegger into office is that Trump is a bad choice.

 

[gbemery]

There is really only a few things I have heard him say that I agree with, things I have never heard a politician say but have heard voters argue for sometimes.

 

[emeraldrafael]

because both are on the verge of bankruptcy, and the people that are paying into them wont see them till progressively later stages in their life, and may die before seeing it.

Wrooooong.

Even at the most pessimistic projections, Social Security doesn't run out of money for quite a long while. [http://blogs.abcnews.com/thenote/2011/05/medicare-and-social-security-will-run-out-sooner-than-thought.html]

2024 for med, 2036 for SS.

So lets see, its 2011 now. so tahts 13 and 25 years. That means that the small fraction of people that need it will be dropping dead (the WW2 fighters) while the most young and boom children will be just reaching the age where they can touch it, and the people now who everyone says will be paying for it (the 16-20 year olds and such) will never see it.

so yeah, its on the verge of bankruptcy, especially if people continue to pull out of it in the recessionary time.