Poll: Does Foul Language Belong in Online 18+ Games?
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I think the sorts of people who unleash a torrent of swear words and sound like some potty-mouthed 14-year-old stoner in an ICP shirt at the bus station are too immature for a "Mature"-rated game in general (one reason I don't like XBox Live.)
Swear words are to language what spices are to food; used judiciously, they're fucking awesome, but overusing them ruins the entire experience.
Swear words are to language what spices are to food; used judiciously, they're fucking awesome, but overusing them ruins the entire experience.
I must also agree with BallPt.pentheif on the fact I could say CURHURHURHUR and mean it in a more offensive manner than anything considered to be a'cuss' word.
I actually really enjoy this metaphor, and it's true, to a degree. Protip to players online: Swear-strings make you sound less mature. People who feel the need to use them clearly aren't mature enough for an 18+ game.SimuLord post=9.69429.659324 said:
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I voted yes because frankly the whole concept of "swear words" seems stupid to me. Why should certain words be considered more offensive than others that have the same meaning and their use discouraged because of it? I bet half as many people would be outraged if in a fit of anger I used the words "poo" or "sex" in place of their obnoxious counterparts.
Plus swear words are brilliantly expressive and emotive. When used in the correct context as mentioned earlier in this thread, in comedy or music they can be used to create fitting iambic pentameter or rhythm to a punchline or lyric, and for those aggravating situations that require something a little more extreme than "Aww shucks!".
But back in games anyway, it does get a bit tiresome when every word in a sentence is a swear word, but I see no reason why they should be ridiculed or banned altogether. They are as equal and valid a part of the language when used in the right context as any other word.
Plus swear words are brilliantly expressive and emotive. When used in the correct context as mentioned earlier in this thread, in comedy or music they can be used to create fitting iambic pentameter or rhythm to a punchline or lyric, and for those aggravating situations that require something a little more extreme than "Aww shucks!".
But back in games anyway, it does get a bit tiresome when every word in a sentence is a swear word, but I see no reason why they should be ridiculed or banned altogether. They are as equal and valid a part of the language when used in the right context as any other word.
Personally, I don't need swear words to express myself, but used correctly they can enhance the mood in RP situations. Should therefore be allowed in 18+ games (with warnings to abusers of course.)
I know that it's not online, but a game that uses mature themes and language to perfection is "The Witcher". Best RPG since BGII in my book.
"Age of Conan" is supposed to be a mature game, but fails even at that. Why? Because Funcom
pulled the plug on a guild called "Throb" since it was a *gasp* DIRTY WORD. This from a game that allows guilds to have bordello themes, with ranks like Trollop, Harlot, Hooker and so on, and instead of fixing game-breaking issues makes patches that proudly boasts that some NPC's are now EVEN MORE scantily clad.
Pa-the-tic.
Avoid at all costs - there are FAR more valid reasons than this as well.
I know that it's not online, but a game that uses mature themes and language to perfection is "The Witcher". Best RPG since BGII in my book.
"Age of Conan" is supposed to be a mature game, but fails even at that. Why? Because Funcom
pulled the plug on a guild called "Throb" since it was a *gasp* DIRTY WORD. This from a game that allows guilds to have bordello themes, with ranks like Trollop, Harlot, Hooker and so on, and instead of fixing game-breaking issues makes patches that proudly boasts that some NPC's are now EVEN MORE scantily clad.
Pa-the-tic.
Avoid at all costs - there are FAR more valid reasons than this as well.
What i want to know is what makes it a bad word and who made it bad?? I mean its the morals we were taught that makes them bad..whats wrong with fuck, its just another word for intercourse...but you know yelling fuck when you're getting spawn killed is better than saying INTERCOURSE!..or bad intercourse...lol...it releases frustration, i dont think any "clean word" could do that
I'd say it belongs in most games. But we have to acknowlage that kids will play MA15+ games, their parents might not care if the kid plays the games but unless they swear keep it low grade.
swearing in GOW is ok kids don't play it much, in halo however every seccond player is 6 so swearing isn't going to be a good idea.
swearing in GOW is ok kids don't play it much, in halo however every seccond player is 6 so swearing isn't going to be a good idea.
Someone doesn't feel comfortable with swear words. What you do next is up to you. You could stop, or you could leave the server, or you could go in a blaze of stupidity and cuss like the belligerent arsehole you are.
People find different stuff offensive, I don't see what's wrong with that.
People find different stuff offensive, I don't see what's wrong with that.
Swearing just shows immaturity and an inability to express oneself in a more articulate manner. Of course the occasional 'fuck' is allowed, but most people crack down on the word because, when used excessively, it gets annoying and shows that the person is childish.
I myself am undecided on the issue, but I don't really care about other people online, unless it helps me or I'm killing them.
I myself am undecided on the issue, but I don't really care about other people online, unless it helps me or I'm killing them.
Attempting to express yourself is perfectly reasonable. Enacting penalities on someone for doing that is simple facism no matter what reasoning you use. Making the personal choice to not swear is one thing, but imposing that on others is just ugly. As ugly as would be making the choice to swear, then forcing everyone else on your server to do it or punishing them.
I'm all for swearing when it's otherwise established that everyones mature enough to handle it without it affecting their brain.
I'm all for swearing when it's otherwise established that everyones mature enough to handle it without it affecting their brain.
I voted no. Allowing harsh language is often soon followed by gratuitous swearing and mic spam. I play on eGO servers, which has policies against swearing or harsh language (and it seems someone always has to bring it up in every game.) Frankly I don't see the point to do it. It doesn't enhance gameplay. Why bother pressing the voicechat key to swear? Besides, players can't hear dead players talk, only type and if you feel that you need to type swears then go write a blog.
Swear words are nothing more than a stupid taboo. Like all the aforementioned arguments stated above, there is nothing wrong with these words at all. only time swearing should be frowned on is when people are just excessively projecting it towards other people, it gets annoying like any type of screaming. If they are so offended by a simple word that does not fall under racism/sexism, it is they who need to grow up and live with it. life isn't full of rainbows and unicorns.
If the game is 18+ I think it doesn't matter if there are cuss words or not. If a little kid gets the game and hears them and its their fault because they got it when its 18+.
i've played on "non profane" counter strike servers that were 10 times more annoying. i would have rather heard arbitrary cursing rather than an irrelevant anecdote about how the host saved his mom into accepting christ.Eiseman post=9.69429.659194 said:
the true test of maturity is in people objectively being contructive in their criticism in order to produce a positive, "winning", result. typically, if somebody screws up and everybody starts to comment on his sexuality, nothing productive will occur.
The inability to understand the long term of casaulity of ones actions and wether or not it will achieve their goal is a better measure of maturity rather than judging people by their arbitrary use of curse words.
I believe that we are probably annoyed by the same type of players. I put blame solely on their immature level of failed communication where as you believe that curse words play a role in their maturity.
The F bomb never killed anyone, but when someone is just "Fuck these fucking faggotface douchecocks!"
Then they need to stfu, and wait a few years, because they're obviously not old enough to play M rated games yet.
Then they need to stfu, and wait a few years, because they're obviously not old enough to play M rated games yet.
again, do you realize how specific your example is? Your point lacks any kind of overriding criteria that would apply to the extensive creative insults which people encounter on a daily basis.SilentHunter7 post=9.69429.660114 said:
Isn't it just easier to concede that the idea to offend is the issue here and that the word "douchecocks" is really a nondescriptive irrelevant term that serves no purpose in describing how said cock would even begin to function as a douche?
being referentially creative is one thing, but just slapping curse words together is lazy.
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