Poll: Does our generation recognise copyright laws?

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The media industry is practically operating like a charity at this point, and I don't envy the people in charge of combating piracy. Piracy will never stop being easy for people as long as the internet exists, and in the future, companies will practically have to beg people to pay for something they otherwise consider free.

Hopefully the media industry will be able to survive on goodwill and stupid people that can't torrent, but you never know what'll happen...
 

Darkmantle

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bdcjacko said:
CODE-D said:
bdcjacko said:
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I dont, Im 20, For the most part I think theyre ridiculous, are abused, stifle creativity and are the epitome of greed.
Protecting your product/idea is one thing but they go to far with consequences for me to respect.

You cant even sing Happy Birthday anymore....
You can sing happy birthday as long as it isnt a public event because the person that wrote the song wants royalties. That is protecting their intellectual property. Also how does protecting intellectual property to make the the owner of the copy right gets paid for it stifling creativity? Singing a song someone else wrote is not creative.
But if your song is unintentionally in any way seen as remotely similar or can be construed as such = Lawsuit.


Also you know whats usually a public event, a birthday.
1) make sure your song is original so you don't get sued. Seems like it is pushing you to be creative.
2) a birthday isn't a public event, it is private unless you invite the general public and no one has ever been sued for singing happy birthday in their own house. You just can't sing it without permission if you are the wait staff at a resteraunt, a teacher at a school, or yadda yadda yadda.
you see, this is what makes companies look like assholes and copyright laws a draconian way to protect your product. Under copyright law my kindergarten teacher should be sued right out of her house

to actually have the gall to say that teachers and young children shouldn't sing happy birthday is just being a douchebag. it's not like you are losing any money when it happens, and the kindergarten kids/teacher isn't going to be making any money at all, so why bother.

and this is also why you get so many dumb fucking birthday songs at restaurants.
 

imagremlin

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I dont't think you do. I'm 42 and I think my generation is split about 50/50

I was surprised to learn how many of my coworkers, who I knew could afford music and software, wouldn't even consider it. It was automatic, almost natural, piracy.

It kind of made me feel embarrased to hear these highly paid professionals, in the software industry, commenting about the stuff they stole like there's nothing to it.
 

Vault101

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its not abotu generations...ita about how easy it is you violate thease laws..I doubt people cared anymore backthen than they do now

back in the day..you wanted a movie your bourght it...OR you taped it if it was on TV..thats what my parents/older siblings did..the entire colelction of videos we owned/watched as kids were taped

back when I was younger I downloded music alot....though I lived in the middle of nowhere..had no money and it just didnt register with me

but now that I have access to music stores, and my own money I buy music (generally) it just seems more right
 

bdcjacko

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Vault101 said:
its not abotu generations...ita about how easy it is you violate thease laws..I doubt people cared anymore backthen than they do now

back in the day..you wanted a movie your bourght it...OR you taped it if it was on TV..thats what my parents/older siblings did..the entire colelction of videos we owned/watched as kids were taped

back when I was younger I downloded music alot....though I lived in the middle of nowhere..had no money and it just didnt register with me

but now that I have access to music stores, and my own money I buy music (generally) it just seems more right
Just FYI, a portion of blank cassette tapes for vcr's and tape recorders went to a fund that was evenly distributed to studios and producers and so forth. So if you were making your own private collection of movies from HBO or taping songs off the radio, you were within you legal right to do so. It was how ever illegal to make more copies and sell them.
 

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bdcjacko said:
Vault101 said:
its not abotu generations...ita about how easy it is you violate thease laws..I doubt people cared anymore backthen than they do now

back in the day..you wanted a movie your bourght it...OR you taped it if it was on TV..thats what my parents/older siblings did..the entire colelction of videos we owned/watched as kids were taped

back when I was younger I downloded music alot....though I lived in the middle of nowhere..had no money and it just didnt register with me

but now that I have access to music stores, and my own money I buy music (generally) it just seems more right
Just FYI, a portion of blank cassette tapes for vcr's and tape recorders went to a fund that was evenly distributed to studios and producers and so forth. So if you were making your own private collection of movies from HBO or taping songs off the radio, you were within you legal right to do so. It was how ever illegal to make more copies and sell them.
Thing is, it's not illegal to tape off the TV for personal use. It doesn't matter if money went to a fund or not.
 

Something Amyss

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Glass Joe the Champ said:
The media industry is practically operating like a charity at this point,
Howso?

Piracy will never stop being easy for people as long as the internet exists, and in the future, companies will practically have to beg people to pay for something they otherwise consider free.
Those companies still making obscene profits? Entertainment media is doing pretty damn good, even in a recession.

Hopefully the media industry will be able to survive on goodwill and stupid people that can't torrent
Doesn't need either.
 

Rodrigo Girao

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Copyright is legally justified as an incentive to creation. But century-long terms are only good for rent-seekers, pointless for artists, and destructive for the audiences and popular culture as a whole. People don't respect copyrights because they can smell the bullshit. They can see that the game is set up against the public interest.
 

ranger12116

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I personally don't torrent music,video games or movies.

I do however know that a lot of my friends do so I would say for the most part, No they don't.
 

Vault101

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bdcjacko said:
Vault101 said:
its not abotu generations...ita about how easy it is you violate thease laws..I doubt people cared anymore backthen than they do now

back in the day..you wanted a movie your bourght it...OR you taped it if it was on TV..thats what my parents/older siblings did..the entire colelction of videos we owned/watched as kids were taped

back when I was younger I downloded music alot....though I lived in the middle of nowhere..had no money and it just didnt register with me

but now that I have access to music stores, and my own money I buy music (generally) it just seems more right
Just FYI, a portion of blank cassette tapes for vcr's and tape recorders went to a fund that was evenly distributed to studios and producers and so forth. So if you were making your own private collection of movies from HBO or taping songs off the radio, you were within you legal right to do so. It was how ever illegal to make more copies and sell them.
really? oh well ok then

my point was and still is..peopel pirated back then..and they do now because its easyer, if your have the easyer option many will go for it, ethics be damned
 

Craorach

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I respect artists, the work they do and their right to be able to make a living from it.

I do not respect copywrite law, it has become far different than being about protecting artists and instead is about protecting the coporations that have purchased as much of the rights to all forms of art as they can. I feel very strongly that coporations such as Disney are destroying creativity and taking long established stories and myths and trying to possess them.

Copywrite law needs to be heavily ammended so that it protects ONLY the original artists, and perhaps the companies they work for in some limited way. The absolute maximum that something should be protected is within the actual life time of the people who created it.. if they are dead, no copywrite, end of story.

I don't really pirate things anymore.. I don't like too, I can afford things I want, but I still don't agree with the rules that are in place.
 

Joccaren

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Some do, some don't, and for some it depends on whether they think it is worth the money or not. Its an issue I don't have time to go into right now, but W/E.
 

cgentero

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I can understand copyright existing during the creators life but afterwards it should belong to the public domain, and no a corporation does not exist as a person(nor creator) in my mind.
 

Aegixx

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It makes me sad when I see anime clips/TV shows/etc on Youtube horizontally flipped to 'avoid copyright infringement'.
It doesn't work that way.
Fair use and acceptance/unawareness from the company is keeping that video up.

I also believe intellectual property owners can get a good deal with Youtube.
They can place ads on other videos which contain their material, and earn revenue from it.
Especially good for game footage or videos with background music, because TV shows on Youtube may result in a loss of DVDs sold.
 

MrTub

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bdcjacko said:
Vault101 said:
its not abotu generations...ita about how easy it is you violate thease laws..I doubt people cared anymore backthen than they do now

back in the day..you wanted a movie your bourght it...OR you taped it if it was on TV..thats what my parents/older siblings did..the entire colelction of videos we owned/watched as kids were taped

back when I was younger I downloded music alot....though I lived in the middle of nowhere..had no money and it just didnt register with me

but now that I have access to music stores, and my own money I buy music (generally) it just seems more right
Just FYI, a portion of blank cassette tapes for vcr's and tape recorders went to a fund that was evenly distributed to studios and producers and so forth. So if you were making your own private collection of movies from HBO or taping songs off the radio, you were within you legal right to do so. It was how ever illegal to make more copies and sell them.

FYI we have to pay up to 160kr fee on buying external hdd and usb sticks (160kr=23$) that goes to artist and such since their reason is that everyone that buys usb sticks and external HDD copies their music/movies and give it away to relatives/friends (Which is legal in Sweden) which is called Privatkopiering.
 

bdcjacko

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Tubez said:
bdcjacko said:
Vault101 said:
its not abotu generations...ita about how easy it is you violate thease laws..I doubt people cared anymore backthen than they do now

back in the day..you wanted a movie your bourght it...OR you taped it if it was on TV..thats what my parents/older siblings did..the entire colelction of videos we owned/watched as kids were taped

back when I was younger I downloded music alot....though I lived in the middle of nowhere..had no money and it just didnt register with me

but now that I have access to music stores, and my own money I buy music (generally) it just seems more right
Just FYI, a portion of blank cassette tapes for vcr's and tape recorders went to a fund that was evenly distributed to studios and producers and so forth. So if you were making your own private collection of movies from HBO or taping songs off the radio, you were within you legal right to do so. It was how ever illegal to make more copies and sell them.

FYI we have to pay up to 160kr fee on buying external hdd and usb sticks (160kr=23$) that goes to artist and such since their reason is that everyone that buys usb sticks and external HDD copies their music/movies and give it away to relatives/friends (Which is legal in Sweden) which is called Privatkopiering.
No I kid. So you pay round about an extra $15 for memory in Sweden? I hope that money all goes to death metal bands.
 

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bdcjacko said:
Tubez said:
bdcjacko said:
Vault101 said:
its not abotu generations...ita about how easy it is you violate thease laws..I doubt people cared anymore backthen than they do now

back in the day..you wanted a movie your bourght it...OR you taped it if it was on TV..thats what my parents/older siblings did..the entire colelction of videos we owned/watched as kids were taped

back when I was younger I downloded music alot....though I lived in the middle of nowhere..had no money and it just didnt register with me

but now that I have access to music stores, and my own money I buy music (generally) it just seems more right
Just FYI, a portion of blank cassette tapes for vcr's and tape recorders went to a fund that was evenly distributed to studios and producers and so forth. So if you were making your own private collection of movies from HBO or taping songs off the radio, you were within you legal right to do so. It was how ever illegal to make more copies and sell them.

FYI we have to pay up to 160kr fee on buying external hdd and usb sticks (160kr=23$) that goes to artist and such since their reason is that everyone that buys usb sticks and external HDD copies their music/movies and give it away to relatives/friends (Which is legal in Sweden) which is called Privatkopiering.
No I kid. So you pay round about an extra $15 for memory in Sweden? I hope that money all goes to death metal bands.
Well unless you buy usb stick everything will cost 23$ more and they wanted ous to pay 250kr at first (Considering that a 1tb hdd used to cost 400kr which would have given ous more then 50% increase in price)....

And of course this is before moms, so if they charge the companys 160kr it will more likely cost around 200-250kr more in store.

And they expect to gain around 100million Swedish kr a year from this fee.


And I guess most of the money will go to Magnus uggla and such people, I doubt very much that any death metal bands will see any money at all.


http://semiaccurate.com/2010/12/24/sweden-could-get-piracy-fee-external-storage-devices/

http://www.thelocal.se/31348/20110110/#