Poll: Does perfection exist
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It's more of a standard that you know won't be reached, but will motivate others to go beyond their limits and achieve a new level if possible.krazykidd said:
Reality is subjective. All opinions on things are subjective, and really, perfection is just an abstract concept that we haven't really defined beyond just meaning something is good to the point where it would be impossible to get any better. So in order for something to be objectively perfect, all of humanity would have to agree that it was perfect, which is simply impossible to do.
We are imperfect by our own defenition, but humanity was the one who invented perfection as a concept. Also, the aforementioned lack of defention of perfection. Would the perfect person be nice to everyone all the time?, or would he put down the people who deserved it? Would he do what others told him, or would he follow his own path? Our "flaws" are what make us human. It seems like perfection is a pretty inhuman concept to me.
We are imperfect by our own defenition, but humanity was the one who invented perfection as a concept. Also, the aforementioned lack of defention of perfection. Would the perfect person be nice to everyone all the time?, or would he put down the people who deserved it? Would he do what others told him, or would he follow his own path? Our "flaws" are what make us human. It seems like perfection is a pretty inhuman concept to me.
I would technically say no as everyone's perception of what perfect is could be different. What one person might consider perfection another might consider awful.
Perfection is subjective not objective so perception is the only factor that decides what is perfect and imperfect.
Certain Buddhism teachings maintain that one cannot change one's circumstances, you can only change how you perceive and react to them.
Objective perfection only exists in geometry and then it's only in theory, no line will ever be perfectly straight, no sphere will ever be perfectly spherical; they are all representations of perfection.
Certain Buddhism teachings maintain that one cannot change one's circumstances, you can only change how you perceive and react to them.
Objective perfection only exists in geometry and then it's only in theory, no line will ever be perfectly straight, no sphere will ever be perfectly spherical; they are all representations of perfection.
Well, then you could say that the English alphabet is perfect because the letters: C-A-B-I-N-E-T create the resulting word: "cabinet" or that any other man-made thought construct is perfect because the sum of the parts and syntax create a result that seems logical based on our education in the subject.FoolKiller said:
By the same logic you could conclude that associating the sun with light is perfect based on the passive experience of living on this planet.
Jeff Bridges said it best in TRON: Legacy - "The thing about perfection is, it's un-knowable. But it's right in front of us, all the time."
in perception of the eye no. there is no perfection because of individuality.
but mathematic *is* perfect.
symetry is perfect.
even thought this might be some what aplicable on proportions and art and stuff like that, it doesn't work fully.
a perfectly proportioned and symetrical human(even though this in it self is very unlikely to exist), accoarding to studies of beauty, would while being considered largely attractive still not be perfect, we have so many other things we put into the equation of perfection, that the attraction will vary alot from one individual to another.
so perfection exists in theory but not in practice.
but mathematic *is* perfect.
symetry is perfect.
even thought this might be some what aplicable on proportions and art and stuff like that, it doesn't work fully.
a perfectly proportioned and symetrical human(even though this in it self is very unlikely to exist), accoarding to studies of beauty, would while being considered largely attractive still not be perfect, we have so many other things we put into the equation of perfection, that the attraction will vary alot from one individual to another.
so perfection exists in theory but not in practice.
That would only be your logic, not mine.Do4600 said:
None of what you say actually follows my last statement. And then you just tack on nonsense with the statement about the sun.
Let me re-iterate: perfection can exist is something abstract and objective.
Your conclusion about the English alphabet being perfect is a fallacy as well. Based on your example the only thing that can be said is that C-A-B-I-N-E-T is the perfect spelling of the word "cabinet".
Perfection is subjective. I like it when there are imperfections, which make something perfect for me.