Poll: Does Steam look better after the Xbox One?

[Kyrinn]

I've never understood the whole "It has DRM so it's automatically terrible," attitude when it comes to Steam. The only time you ever have to log in is to make a purchase and put the game on your computer. Oh no, how inconvenient for you /sarcasm. Seriously it's like people hear the word DRM and just lose their shit.

So yea I'm on Steam's side.

 

[Patathatapon]

"(Steam) is still DRM" PAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHHAHAHAHAHA! Hey guys, if your trying to buy "Preowned" or anything like that from steam, your missing the point of steam. Steam helps you get cheap games, not to mention nowadays with the Humble bundle you can get lots of stuff.

Steam has its downsides, but if your going to complain about DRM, look at its competition in that area. Sim City, The Xbox One. what does Steam do? does it force all games on a server for you to verify it? does it force you to be online? NO! You can play "thomas was alone" or "Serious Sam" all offline.

Also summer sale is coming up, so if you want good cheap games, get to be part of steam fast!

 

[KarmaTheAlligator]

Been a Steam user for years, and I can really see the difference between it and the Xbone. I'm baffled by people who say the two are the same.

 

[Something Amyss]

If you are afraid a DRM will steal all your personal info off your computer then thats your own paranoia.

It was a demonstrative analogy. I really didn't think I'd need to explain that.

Though I do find it telling that you feel there is absolutely no reason for them to trust us, but apparently a lack of trust on our end is "paranoia."

 

[Madman123456]

I don't see the "Paranoia" in fearing for your info when subjected to intrusive DRM. I don't believe that Microsoft is data mining for the evil shadow government.
However, there have been cases of sensitive data being leaked. Playstation network being the most recent one.

Now, inputting credit card data into the console is something you just shouldn't do.

Still, i would very much like to have *some* statement about the security of this new machine. Some acknowledgement that microsoft has taken care of potential issues would be better then nothing.


Regarding the question in the poll: Nearly everything looks better then what we know about the xbone.

 

[AyaReiko]

Testicular cancer is preferable to the XB1.

Jim Sterling naked is preferable to the XB1.

Being locked away in a cell alone with Bubba "The Rape Fiend" is preferable to the XB1.

I'm sure we could go on for hours with this.

 

[Entitled]

Only reason to hate steam is if you want to pirate games

Why would they? Steam's existence doesn't make piracy harder, it just gives pirates an alternative in case they want to legally pay for certain games.

 

[Necrofudge]

I'd prefer no DRM at all, but the way things are going, it seems to be a losing battle. There's still GOG, I suppose, but Steam seems to treat its customers with some shred of dignity, so that's pretty cool.

I don't use it very heavily, but it always provides a quick way to get some good indie games for dirt cheap, and I'm likely going to stick with it with the dying viability of new consoles.

 

[Yopaz]

Steam has been looking good for some years now and they have actually improved over the years.

The fact thatit's FRM is as clear as ever, but I don't think we can keep thinking of DRM as bad by definition. For those of us who game on PC Steam offers a service that patches games automatically to make sure games always stay up to date. It offers a buy and install directly feature which is also quite neat.

It's not perfect, but as far as DRM goes it's the best I have seen because it actually gives me something I can enjoy rather than being simply an inconvenience. It's not as open as consoles used to be when it comes to lending out games or second hand games which is the only negative point I can think of(granted that I am ignoring the paranoia around digital sales).

 

[DarthVella]

I've never seen Steam as DRM. I've always seen it as a registration/download service. I can microwave my discs and fill my computer with sand and I'll still have access to my favourite games if I've bought them on Steam.

I own a Wii, and I'd be more than happy to buy a Wii U when they release something I want on it. I'd like a PS3 or 4, as well, but I'm a little divided because I'd only buy it for one or two games. I've never had anything against Microsoft, either, but nor have I ever wanted an XBox. Any game I would have wanted to get it for has always been available on the PC. The XBox One hasn't done anything to change that, and now I am more than a little wary of the 'features' they have on offer.

 

[Soopy]

Yeah, I've always seen Steam as a service rather than DRM. There are multiple plus's and no real minus.

 

[Maximum Bert]

Genuinely curious what barriers do you reprieve between you and your game on Steam?

Just the fact that I have to sign into an account to play my game even if I bought the game and have it I cant play it because I have to sign into an account, dosent matter that I have the game in my hand. Also no internet no games even though I have already bought them. I prefer the GOG model where you buy the games and then can do whatever the hell you want with them and play them however you want its just so much simpler.

Also first time I used steam it slowed down my already piece of shit laptop to a crawl making things extremely difficult in the end I had to uninstall it but then I couldnt finish my game, which was annoying. But yeah its just adds stuff that does not need to be there thats what annoys me and it forces itself on you and I wont stand for much of that which may lead to me quitting gaming altogether eventually but I will cross that bridge when I come to it.

I also dont like the fact that they could in theory take all your games off you I know its unlikely but the potential is there and it shouldnt be.

 

[IronMit]

I want to get a PS4....but I will also need a PC.
I have not had the pleasure of playing fallout on full graphics...with mods......or witcher 2 at all...and next gen consoles can't give that to me

 

[Genocidicles]

It seems like the xbone has all the downsides of Steam with none of the upsides.

At least you can always use cracks to get your game out of Steam as well.

 

[9thRequiem]

I know a lot of people on this forum hate steam and DRM in general but after the xbox one are people looking at the service in a better light?

I mean the system atleast allows you to install games to multiple machines multiple times without any penality (excluding additional DRM included in the game). It also has an offline mode so if you find your internet down for a long period or are traveling.

It also has in effect full backwards compatability back to 1993 with the classic game of Doom (ok yes there are graphic issues in Doom on modern machines but these are solveable) and includes a number of classic games from thoughout history.

Sure you can't sell the game once your done with it but you can download it later if you want to play it again. Also the price of many games will be reduced depending on how old they are which can give you some bargins. Also there are steam sales.

Is it a perfect system? Of course not but compared to what the Xbone One and probadly what the PS4 will be in terms of consumer benefit it does give more

A few corrections :
- With XOne, you can install games to as many machines as you like. It's done by profile, not by machine. The only difference is that one machine has a much longer Offline mode. You can also redownload ANY game you have registered, any number of times.
- Steam's offline mode is limited too. You just get 2 weeks instead of 24 hours.

So no, Steam doesn't look any better. It looks pretty much the same.
Of course, I'm already very happy with Steam, and use it extensively, so ...

 

[KarmaTheAlligator]

- Steam's offline mode is limited too. You just get 2 weeks instead of 24 hours.

Never really tried myself, but I've heard the offline lasts anywhere between 1 month and forever. Also? 2 weeks is a hell of a lot more than 24 hours.