Poll: Does the past truely effect the future?
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Why does everyone use the Nazis as examples?
Anyway, short answer? Yes, every action helps determine the future, but perhaps not in noticeable ways. Even small actions can have far-reaching consequences, you just need to think about it. Longer answer has far too much technical knowledge for 2 in the morning.
Anyway, short answer? Yes, every action helps determine the future, but perhaps not in noticeable ways. Even small actions can have far-reaching consequences, you just need to think about it. Longer answer has far too much technical knowledge for 2 in the morning.
Well that depends on what theory of time you believe in, maybe timelines branch off at every possible instant meaning that going back in time wouldn't affect your timeline but could create a bizarre, alternative timeline where Hitler is actually Batman
Every action has a reaction, (like HUBILUB already said) If you went back in time and convinced yourself to eat a turkey sandwitch, either something small,(like you have more in your day to do stuff.) to the biggest thing in the universe. (like a rip in the universe sucking in everything imaginable.
then there is the Paradox theory, like the classic example of, if you kill your grandfather, you will slowly fade away in the past, because your mother/ father was never born, witch means you were never born. But there are so many holes in this theory, like what if your grandmother gets knocked up and your father is born and he knocks up someone, you could be born again.
There are so many possibilities. I think that it is best to just leave the past as it is, and learn from our mistakes from the past to build a better future.
then there is the Paradox theory, like the classic example of, if you kill your grandfather, you will slowly fade away in the past, because your mother/ father was never born, witch means you were never born. But there are so many holes in this theory, like what if your grandmother gets knocked up and your father is born and he knocks up someone, you could be born again.
There are so many possibilities. I think that it is best to just leave the past as it is, and learn from our mistakes from the past to build a better future.
Of course it does. Prevent the meteor from hitting Earth a trillion years ago, it's your fault when you come back and get eaten by dinosaurs.
And I think the Past/Future relation in Mass Effect was not brought upon as a pure gameplay mechanic, moreso just them not having enough time or money to program a story mechanic that deep.
And I think the Past/Future relation in Mass Effect was not brought upon as a pure gameplay mechanic, moreso just them not having enough time or money to program a story mechanic that deep.
(1) It's not possible to go back into the past.
(2) The future does not exist.
(3) There is only now and the memory of 'past nows' available to us.
(4) Humans try to use their memory of the past to predict 'the future' but in fact the whole time they are doing this they are still located in the present. Furthermore, once they make a decision on the 'future' they can only do one thing and only one thing only so despite the appearance of multiple outcomes only one ever eventuates.
(4a) Any speculation or hypothetical scenarios about 'what if' and 'I should have done this' only end up taking up more moments of the present.
(6) The present is the only moment that exists and the only moment in which you can do anything.
I am playing Mass Effect now so even though the game is old a spoiler warning would be nice.
(2) The future does not exist.
(3) There is only now and the memory of 'past nows' available to us.
(4) Humans try to use their memory of the past to predict 'the future' but in fact the whole time they are doing this they are still located in the present. Furthermore, once they make a decision on the 'future' they can only do one thing and only one thing only so despite the appearance of multiple outcomes only one ever eventuates.
(4a) Any speculation or hypothetical scenarios about 'what if' and 'I should have done this' only end up taking up more moments of the present.
(6) The present is the only moment that exists and the only moment in which you can do anything.
I am playing Mass Effect now so even though the game is old a spoiler warning would be nice.
Theoretically, if he spent a different amount of time preparing the sandwich (since PB&J is so much easier to make) then maybe he would be in a slightly different place. Maybe instead of being exactly on time to class or work, he would be late, which could have other repercussions, etc. etc. Realistically though, I seriously doubt that such a minor change would have any real effects. Possible though. If you're persistent enough, you can think of a way for any change, no matter how minor, to majorly affect the future. The probability of such a thing happening however... well, let's just say just because something can happen doesn't mean it will. Ugh, I'm repeating myself.TriGGeR_HaPPy said:
P.s. I see certain people mistaking "effect" with "affect." That bothers me quite a lot.
Your misuse of the "affect/effect" duo in the past when you wrote the post has colored my future opinion of the intelligence of this thread. Therefore every action has an equal and opposite reaction. Physics is fun!Shurikens and Lightning said:
my thoughts exactly. and the time you take to make and eat the turkey sandwich would go into doing something else, which leads to more and more things. any minor thing can affect the future. lets say abraham lincoln decided to move a few steps to his right or left and didnt get assassinated. the few steps were a minor thing, but abraham lincoln continuing living is a very huge event.The_Deleted said:
Yes, maybe not in a day but over time it will greatly. Lets use that sandwich example. You use turkey which may take slightly longer to prepare then a peanut butter one. So your a little later to , lets say a movie. Which could cause you to miss your friend who was standing in line, who if you caught him you might of talked and seen a different movie. Which could greatly affect a conversation and that could lead to you seeing that movie. Which takes away 2 hours, and well you see how far this could go.
Now something that small probably wouldn't affect things so much, most of that was and exaggeration. You might not even experience any difference in your life time. However it would definitely affect things in the long run. A small air difference or a bit of turkey in the land fill can go a long way.
Now something that small probably wouldn't affect things so much, most of that was and exaggeration. You might not even experience any difference in your life time. However it would definitely affect things in the long run. A small air difference or a bit of turkey in the land fill can go a long way.
No, because time travel will never work. Time is a human invention. There is no going back or forward, it just exists. Your choices have no effect on the future because there is no future. There is now, the future, and the past, and only one can be affected.
If you went back to 1945 and killed some local in Hiroshima 10 seconds before the bomb dropped, would there be a consequence?
Oy, Time Travel.
Look, time travel is a paradox. It is impossible for this very simple reason: If you were to travel back in time to change something, the thing you'd have changed would never have happened and you wouldn't have had a reason to change it in the first place so you'd never have traveled back in time.
It's the classic time paradox, and it's been debated by men and women much, much smarter than anyone in this topic including myself. General consensus? Impossible. And I'll go with what they say over video-game logic.
Look, time travel is a paradox. It is impossible for this very simple reason: If you were to travel back in time to change something, the thing you'd have changed would never have happened and you wouldn't have had a reason to change it in the first place so you'd never have traveled back in time.
It's the classic time paradox, and it's been debated by men and women much, much smarter than anyone in this topic including myself. General consensus? Impossible. And I'll go with what they say over video-game logic.
Time travel is impossible for good and excellent reasons. However....
Any past change would have consequences, minimal at first, and random over time. Maybe you eat your turkey sandwich, and someone else doesn't get that turkey, doesn't let it sit around, and doesn't get sick and die from food poisoning. Someone who becomes important and changes things. Or maybe he gets another pack and your change essentially means nothing.
Changing the past is like shouting at a mountain; sometimes nothing happens and sometimes you get an avalanche. The louder the shout, the more likely the effect.
Any past change would have consequences, minimal at first, and random over time. Maybe you eat your turkey sandwich, and someone else doesn't get that turkey, doesn't let it sit around, and doesn't get sick and die from food poisoning. Someone who becomes important and changes things. Or maybe he gets another pack and your change essentially means nothing.
Changing the past is like shouting at a mountain; sometimes nothing happens and sometimes you get an avalanche. The louder the shout, the more likely the effect.