Poll: Does thinking prevent you from being Happy?

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Ziadaine_v1legacy

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you think too much you assume too much and causes misfortune and (in times) depression. hence you should just say "Fuck you" to earth and go with the flow, not caring about what It may cause.

Obviously while keeping it legal, I dont mean go out and kill someone on impulse or something....
 

Shockolate

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Thinking about my life makes me unhappy. I'm 17, no girl, no job, rarely see my friends, no career in mind. But that isn't what bothers me. It's the fact that I NEED a job/career (the other stuff, not so much).

I need to go out and waste my life doing something I don't want to do. And it's not even the good kind of time wasting, like gaming or watching porn!

Growing up is a harsh reality I don't want to admit, but I am constantly reminded of it and that makes me unhappy.

Or did I miss the point of this thread? I tend to get rather rant-ish (rant-ish? ranty? I don't know.) when it comes to things like Happiness.
 

SimuLord

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Thinking about emotional matters is a recipe for unhappiness. Just shut up and do it---don't waste your time thinking about it, whatever "it" may be.

On the other hand, I derive tremendous joy from thinking and designing things and concepts; this is why I love city-building and simulation games so much. So THAT kind of thinking is happiness in a box.
 

PixieFace

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No. Information doesn't cause the upset, it's your attitude in how you deal with it. Some people wallow. Some people don't.

There is enough beauty in the universe to accept all the bad memories, all the irony, all the conspiracies, all the unfair situations, all the social realities in the world and keep moving on. I have learned to accept scary information without drowning in it. I find solace in my love, my friends and nature. Others will find it in music, art or animals.

Go hiking and observe little bugs making it through their world. Go out to a secluded place away from cities and look at the Milky Way stretched out across the sky. Visit a lake and float on your back, watch the clouds, and feel little fish nip at your legs. Walk through a storm and listen closely to the downpour. Take the time to learn about animals, human or otherwise.

Not all of the world is evil. It's good to remember that.
 

CargoHold

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THinking can be problem-solving/resolution kind of thinking, or dwelling kind of thinking. And I guess they both have different outcomes on happiness.
 

Monocle Man

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You can think about the bad things or about solving the bad things.
Thinking about solving the bad things makes me happy.
Changing the worlds starts with yourself, and some day...
 

Deviluk

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No, lasting happiness is gained through self-knowledge.

(Wow, 50/50 so far! How interesting.)
 

cuddly_tomato

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Thinking doesn't make you unhappy, awareness of things which you do not like can make you unhappy. This awareness can be the result of thinking, but the actual thinking nope. Thinking can make you more happy too, if you can consider how lucky you are in relation to other people.

NeutralDrow said:
I'm thinking of something in particular that makes me very happy, at the moment.
I am thinking about Zhang Ziyi as well.
 

Booze Zombie

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A dead child isn't happy, but, uh... they're not thinking.
Not thinking would render you emotionless, actually.

Now, being happy, that makes you happy... sorry.
 

DoW Lowen

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heyheysg said:
Case in point: Dogs/Children and their instinctive 'joy'

Longer Case:

Existentialism - Thinking why am I here, why am I doing this, so what if I get a big house, a lot of money and several lovers in my mansion?

Self Actualisation - You have a good job, family and everything is rosy in Average Citizen Life. But you want to do something great, write the great next novel and frustrate yourself again.

Political freedom - You're just an average person living a normal life, not really caring about politics, then you read about what your government is doing and it doesn't really agree with your worldview, you feel angry and helpless
Science Fun Fact: People who are able to accurately describe reality are more prone to clinical depression.

When you think about life, the world, the human condition people will generally come to two different conclusions, A Hopeless world view or a Revered one. Do yourself a favor and fall into the latter category.

People with a Hopeless world view often see the world and themselves as unimportant. They understand that nothing they do in their life will have an impact upon the grand schemes of the universe. You're born, you die, you end up as fertilizer and everyone forgets you unless you're famous. Hence the need for acknowledgment among so many people and the desperation of achieving their fifteen minutes of fame. Depressing isn't it?

The second view, which I personally hold is the Revered world view. This is not to be mistaken with a view where you are in awe of the universe. That just implies you're dumbstruck. No a revered world view is a feeling of sublime, that yes the universe if infinitely larger than you and anything you can possibly comprehend. But you consider yourself lucky to be a part of it. You revere life, the awesomeness of it. You existence is a miracle and life itself is trillions of repeated phenomena against all astronomical odds. Of all the hundred of thousand of sperm, YOU came out. If the sperm in the egg split and you had a twin, which twin would be you? You grandparents had to have met under a certain circumstance, your great grandparents etc. if even a fraction of history had been different you may never have existed. Human coupling is unbelievably impossible, the chances of two people coming together whether in matrimony, a drunk night in a bar, a loveless marriage or even dare I say non-consensual sex, YOU were born from it, and you alone were the result of that union.

Existence is a miracle, and don't for even a second ever get use to that fact.
 

Valksy

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No, 15 years of mental health problems prevents me from being "happy" (I am not sure that I even know what it means anymore).

I do know that I can trick my mind for a while in to a semblance of peace and calm by detaching myself from thinking too much - doing something simple and repetitive for example (there is a reason that there is a cliche about nutty people weaving baskets, it can help). But I don't know that classes as not thinking your way to happiness.
 

PixieFace

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DoW Lowen said:
heyheysg said:
Case in point: Dogs/Children and their instinctive 'joy'

Longer Case:

Existentialism - Thinking why am I here, why am I doing this, so what if I get a big house, a lot of money and several lovers in my mansion?

Self Actualisation - You have a good job, family and everything is rosy in Average Citizen Life. But you want to do something great, write the great next novel and frustrate yourself again.

Political freedom - You're just an average person living a normal life, not really caring about politics, then you read about what your government is doing and it doesn't really agree with your worldview, you feel angry and helpless
Science Fun Fact: People who are able to accurately describe reality are more prone to clinical depression.

When you think about life, the world, the human condition people will generally come to two different conclusions, A Hopeless world view or a Revered one. Do yourself a favor and fall into the latter category.

People with a Hopeless world view often see the world and themselves as unimportant. They understand that nothing they do in their life will have an impact upon the grand schemes of the universe. You're born, you die, you end up as fertilizer and everyone forgets you unless you're famous. Hence the need for acknowledgment among so many people and the desperation of achieving their fifteen minutes of fame. Depressing isn't it?

The second view, which I personally hold is the Revered world view. This is not to be mistaken with a view where you are in awe of the universe. That just implies you're dumbstruck. No a revered world view is a feeling of sublime, that yes the universe if infinitely larger than you and anything you can possibly comprehend. But you consider yourself lucky to be a part of it. You revere life, the awesomeness of it. You existence is a miracle and life itself is trillions of repeated phenomena against all astronomical odds. Of all the hundred of thousand of sperm, YOU came out. If the sperm in the egg split and you had a twin, which twin would be you? You grandparents had to have met under a certain circumstance, your great grandparents etc. if even a fraction of history had been different you may never have existed. Human coupling is unbelievably impossible, the chances of two people coming together whether in matrimony, a drunk night in a bar, a loveless marriage or even dare I say non-consensual sex, YOU were born from it, and you alone were the result of that union.

Existence is a miracle, and don't for even a second ever get use to that fact.
My hero. You speak the truth!

Branching off a little of what you said, people argue to me all the time that the world can't be beautiful without a god. Pish posh. If you believe that all of this - mountains, forests, sentient life of all things - was a long series of bizarre coincidences rather than the work of someone who knew what they were doing is... phenomenal. Beautiful. And like you said, a god damned miracle. How can you not revere it, and be thankful to just be a part of it?

Although to be honest, I *am* constantly in awe. =) Difficult not to be when you study astronomy and sit under a waterfall for the first time. Nature nerds, ftw... ?
 

DoW Lowen

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PixieFace said:
DoW Lowen said:
heyheysg said:
Case in point: Dogs/Children and their instinctive 'joy'

Longer Case:

Existentialism - Thinking why am I here, why am I doing this, so what if I get a big house, a lot of money and several lovers in my mansion?

Self Actualisation - You have a good job, family and everything is rosy in Average Citizen Life. But you want to do something great, write the great next novel and frustrate yourself again.

Political freedom - You're just an average person living a normal life, not really caring about politics, then you read about what your government is doing and it doesn't really agree with your worldview, you feel angry and helpless
Science Fun Fact: People who are able to accurately describe reality are more prone to clinical depression.

When you think about life, the world, the human condition people will generally come to two different conclusions, A Hopeless world view or a Revered one. Do yourself a favor and fall into the latter category.

People with a Hopeless world view often see the world and themselves as unimportant. They understand that nothing they do in their life will have an impact upon the grand schemes of the universe. You're born, you die, you end up as fertilizer and everyone forgets you unless you're famous. Hence the need for acknowledgment among so many people and the desperation of achieving their fifteen minutes of fame. Depressing isn't it?

The second view, which I personally hold is the Revered world view. This is not to be mistaken with a view where you are in awe of the universe. That just implies you're dumbstruck. No a revered world view is a feeling of sublime, that yes the universe if infinitely larger than you and anything you can possibly comprehend. But you consider yourself lucky to be a part of it. You revere life, the awesomeness of it. You existence is a miracle and life itself is trillions of repeated phenomena against all astronomical odds. Of all the hundred of thousand of sperm, YOU came out. If the sperm in the egg split and you had a twin, which twin would be you? You grandparents had to have met under a certain circumstance, your great grandparents etc. if even a fraction of history had been different you may never have existed. Human coupling is unbelievably impossible, the chances of two people coming together whether in matrimony, a drunk night in a bar, a loveless marriage or even dare I say non-consensual sex, YOU were born from it, and you alone were the result of that union.

Existence is a miracle, and don't for even a second ever get use to that fact.
My hero. You speak the truth!

Branching off a little of what you said, people argue to me all the time that the world can't be beautiful without a god. Pish posh. If you believe that all of this - mountains, forests, sentient life of all things - was a long series of bizarre coincidences rather than the work of someone who knew what they were doing is... phenomenal. Beautiful. And like you said, a god damned miracle. How can you not revere it, and be thankful to just be a part of it?

Although to be honest, I *am* constantly in awe. =) Difficult not to be when you study astronomy and sit under a waterfall for the first time. Nature nerds, ftw... ?
Yes I see God as an irrelevant aspect of life. Even if you remove God from the equation, the galaxy still spins, the stars still shine, you can still love truly and deeply and life goes on.

I remember my first moment of sublime. I live down in Sydney ,Australia. And one day we drove down to a beach called Wattamalla. A generally isolated beach, separated by miles of national park wilderness. It takes a 10 minute hike down a trail and a cliff trail and you end up on this orange little beach with a lagoon. Along the side of this cliff is a rocky path, I went by myself in a twenty minute hike - hopping from rock to rock, leaping over meter and half gaps in along the ocean and even did some parkour I was unaware that my body could perform. Then I ended up on this little rock on the edge of Australia, I looked out to the ocean and saw nothing but blue. Blue waters and blue sky, the horizon stretching further than my eye could see.

I knew at the moment I was in love with nature. I didn't think for a second that God had something to do with this magnificent sight. In fact the thought of a god cheapened my experience. What I witnessed wasn't 10,000 years of creationist ideal, it was a culmination of billions of years of topographical movements. Life had evolved from a single microbe to create ME. A being with the upper primate brain to appreciate the aesthetics and beauty of an endless ocean. Continents across a trillion life times drifting apart leaving ponderous gaps of endless water, life evolving over a billion or more generations to form humans and all the other mysterious creatures in the world and perhaps in the universe.

That my friends, is what life is. And god and the religion that insists on design does little to nothing to make it any more beautiful.
 

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Sleekgiant said:
You can think yourself unhappy if you're a good enough pessimist. Going around all day thinking how bad everything is will make you quite depressed.
Oh good point +1 :)

Ye sometimes when I'm trying to sleep and my brain just wont shut up >.< can be rather annoying you start wondering about x, y and z and how will that effect a, b and c. Usually doesn't put me into a bad mood or make me unhappy though.

What used to drive me mad sometimes was over thinking peoples reactions, or going into school without your homework you can shoot your self in the foot by looking guilty as sin when they ask do you have it done. Somebody who wasn't fussed would say 'ya' and take the chance on not having it looked at, I wasn't able to and barely ever got away with it. Yes I do believe over thinking can sometimes be a very bad thing.
 

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thinking itself doesn't make you unhappy. If you think about anything for too long, however, you will realize that it is pointless, non-consequential and, above all, shit. This is why I hate my life *commencing emo* waaah waaah I'm so unhappeeeeeeeee...
 

ElTigreSantiago

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Yes it does, that is why there are so many Christians.

I kid, I kid. I thinks it's more because kids don't have anything to be unhappy about for a long period of time.
 

LaughingAtlas

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Thinking? Probably not. Overthinking? Certainly. It's because of my habit of overanalyzing things that I couldn't simply enjoy Uncharted 1&2, the Resident evil series, WoW, Fallout 3, and so on. It's also the reason (I think) for occasional, split-second hallucenations. If anything's to be learned from this, it's that analysis and contemplation can easily suck the fun out of things.

I used to think that games that don't even attempt to take themselves seriously for longer than about 5 minutes (dead rising, Saint's row 1&2, Borderlands, Paper Mario, etc.) shouldn't really be thought about at all. The dev team probably knows how ridiculous their game is and if you want to throw reason into the mix, that's your problem. Now I'm pretty sure EVERY game goes by that rule. Like the American educational system, believe what they tell you, don't ask questions that haven't been answered earlier, and things (besides curiousity) should be fine.

EDIT: Another possibly irrelvant thing: what's with the black-or-white poll we've got here? just "yes or no?" There's probably more than two (or even 14) ways to view the matter, so why isn't there a "other" option or something?

RE-EDIT: Hrm. I just noticed the irony of that last part. Would this be considered evidence?
 

Nicolefranklin

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I honestly think so, or for some people anyway. I know I tend to overthink, and overthinking a situation never helps. I always have to analyze everything, and god knows that doesn't help anything. I don't know that thinking can prevent happiness, or cause unhappiness directly, but it can certainly make it worse once it's already there.