Poll: Does zero exist? - intellectual debate

[mr.aravaro]

it exists its right here --------> 0

 

[Claymorez]

Not nessecarily further shades of nothingness, but rather a deficit of something beyond nothing.

If anybody requires proof of the existence of zero and/or negative numbers, just point out the fact that Black Holes are the natural equivalent of the mathermatical principles of nothingness and negativity.

actually if u believe in expansion theory then you gotta except that nothing is defined as the constantly expanding infinite space that is outside out universes expanding cluster of matter.

Interesting idea, but the "space" that the universe is expanding into would more accurately represent the potential of infinity.

I can go with that - thou you could always be difficult and argue 0.A* (pretend * is above value A and stands for infinite sign).

0.A* x 10 = A.A*

ergo 10 = A.A* and 1 = 0.A* and therefore you could say 9 = A so proportional expansion

 

[esperandote]

yes

n^0=1
0^0=1

Nope, 0^0 is not defined. n^0 = 1 0/0 = 1? No, doesn't work.

I dont know what you mean by <=>
Im not saying 0/0=1
0^0 is defined, try it in any calculator.

 

[Numb1lp]

Please dude, it's the weekend. I don't need to think about this.

 

[Azure-Supernova]

WHY WHY WHY! It's 12 am and you choose to debate this? Still I'm unsure, but interested. I want to see where this goes...

 

[BlumiereBleck]

0+0=0 so yeah it does exsist

 

[The Blue Mongoose]

If I have 3 apples and you take all 3 of my apples, how many apples do I have? The answer is 0 apples.

Wow... 0 is such a complicated concept... /sarcasm

 

[Ghonzor]

0 / 0 = 1

Prove me wrong.

EDIT: Yes, I am kidding

 

[Burningsok]

0 does exist, if it didnt there would be at least 1 of everything existing.
plus us humans gave the name to the number that represents nothing in terms of measuring. 0 is where all numbers began and possibly end in math; always start from 0 and add up or down... anywhere.

Like always I'm pretty sure there is more to this then what I just explained.

 

[Jark212]

Yes zero does exist: as of this moment there are zero naked women in this room...

I win...

 

[CobaltBomber]

Yes.


Does anything really exist, or is it all an illusion, man?

 

[Gmano]

Zero only exists in the way that cold exists, in that it is the absence of heat, or, in zero's case, anything.

Since is it defined by an absence, i would say that it does not exist.

 

[Poofs]

it doesnt exist because zero is nothing and nothing is nothing
it is a representation of something
not actually something

 

[Steveh15]

Philisophically, yes.

I have 6 apples on my plate. I eat 6 of them. How many do I have left? I have zero apples, ie zero in language zero is an adjective used to describe the absence of something.

Mathematically, I'm not qualified to say.
I'm not a mathematician and it get's really bloody complicated the further you delve into it.
Some people in this thread have already given some good explanations but I've had a look at my friends text book (he's currently copmleteing an MA in maths) and it gets REALLY bloody copmlicated)

Luckily as a trainee physicist I don't have to deal with this question for a while.

 

[megalomania]

I'm surprised nobody has picked up on this yet, but 0 isn't always represent nothing:

1000,000 if the zeros were nothing it would just be one
same goes for after a decimal place 3.14159265358979323846264338327950288

Also the inclusion of a zero digit is seen as a sign of technological advancement; the babylonians has a digit zero even though their numerical system was to the base of 60 or something silly like that.

Also you are all forgetting your A-level (or equivalent) maths; 0 is included in the set of Real number therefore it must exist

 

[ucciolord1]

Zero is a quantity, therefore it exists.

 

[slopeslider]

1+0=1
1+red=1
Does zero exist?
Does red exist?