Poll: Dog Torture vs. Rapist

[mrdude2010]

None of those things should have any bearing AT ALL on his status as a sports player. Terrible people make it to the covers of these games, but it's not the content of their character that matters, it's their sports ability.

what i was gonna say-

OT: the NBA cover is for some reason much less disputed than the madden cover so im assuming people made less noise about it



also the scale of michael vick's actions was huge- he had this massive dogfighting farm with open graves with numbers of dead dogs in the hundreds- that is a huge deal. is raping an innocent woman a huge deal? of course but the attention associated with the cover means that kobe got less attention

 

[Plurralbles]

I've listened to more than just "OMG HE FOUGHT DOGS" and I have to say he's really changed. If anyone actually gave a rats ass about what he has said since, he's changed a lot as a person. He was raised in a house, town, and environment where that's what dogs were for. Sure, he could have saw how different his area was from the rest of America, but he's a football player, not smart. He has since tried to make amends, and never will be able to because nobody believes in forgiveness, no matter how much he does.

Honestly, he was on the cover in '04, and I don't think that anyone should be on it more than once.

As for Kobe... yeah, I have issues with him too. His ass should have been jailed, but was rich enough to just buy off the poor girl.

At least one really shows honest signs of repentance.

I find it extremely weird that someone who is making so much money from playing football would even continue with the dog fighting bullshit... HOw can someone honestly not htink they're doing anything wrong when they have every opportunity to change their ways way before litigation begins?

Edit: The only way I'd be happy with this mess would be if there was no Madden 12.. or 13.. or anymore ever.

 

[Moromillas]

Because "they were just dogs"? Compared to what? Humans? Why would it be any less or more sickening? The torture and killing of any living creature is sickening. I support any who wish to boycott, should Vick's end up on the cover.

 

[2012 Wont Happen]

I don't know all the facts of the Kobe Bryant case, but from what I've heard it was reasonably certain that he did rape the girl. Assuming that he did, he should have been executed for what he did.

What Vick did is not nearly as bad. Certainly not warranting death, or anything remotely near. However, I don't think we should honor him.

 

[Kortney]

None of those things should have any bearing AT ALL on his status as a sports player. Terrible people make it to the covers of these games, but it's not the content of their character that matters, it's their sports ability.

I see what you mean, but I believe you are looking at things too simply.

These men, whilst they are just sportsmen, are in the public eye and they are (whether we like it or not) role models for children. Putting this man on the cover of a game and acting like he is a superstar whilst he has just tortured and murdered a helpless animal isn't sending a great message.

But I do kind of agree with what you are saying - I'm just raising the other side of the fence.

 

[KILGAZOR]

Put both of them on the cover, it would be more reflective of the game's content

 

[Phoenixlight]

None of those things should have any bearing AT ALL on his status as a sports player. Terrible people make it to the covers of these games, but it's not the content of their character that matters, it's their sports ability.

Wrong, if someone does something terrible they should be treated like shit by everyone and lose all sponsership as a punishment.

 

[Raistlinhawke]

None of those things should have any bearing AT ALL on his status as a sports player. Terrible people make it to the covers of these games, but it's not the content of their character that matters, it's their sports ability.

His status as a sports player is not in question here. Its whether or not he should be cast as a representative of the sport on a massively distributed product. The cover of a Madden title is basically the same as a multi-million dollar ad campaign. In that respect, it is not just his ability as a sports player that should be taken into consideration.

And it is rare, if ever, that such consideration is given to any player. Its impossible to disassociate the known aspects of the private lives of celebrities, its received and processed in the same fashion as any other information concerned with the person. Unless personal knowledge of the person comes into play, player profiles will always expand beyond statistical achievement, be it great charitable work or dog fighting charges. It's neither a bad nor good thing, just an unavoidable thing.

 

[Ickorus]

I voted 'Yes' because I don't really give a shit.

Also about the other bloke who allegedly raped a woman im willing to bet she's just another cash-grab attention whore like most of the other celebrity 'rape victims', that is, she probably slept with the guy then decided she wanted some money and attention and shouted rape.

Kinda like the stories of how women ruin guys lives by filing lawsuits because they were drunk and had sex with the guy. Sure you were off your head on alcohol at the time you agreed to sleep with the bloke but that was your own idiotic move, don't get shitfaced if you can't control yourself.

 

[Prof. Monkeypox]

Both should be barred from playing, let alone earning an dubious accolades. Their skill is completely insignificant to me in the face of what they have done.

 

[Tehlanna TPX]

sadly, rape gets much less attention in the media than animal abuse. but no, Vick is an awful human being and should NOT be on the cover. does this justify anyone else who did something worse (rape, murder, etc.)? HELL NO. and frankly, it's insanely stupid of anyone to think that.

Really confused by this statement, considering the Kobe event was overly televised, and I recall the Roethlesburger ( I have no idea if I spelled that right) attack was also splattered all across the tv. I think it's stupid to compare apples to oranges at this point. One was convicted, the other was not. Just because you're an athlete doesn't mean you deserve a free pass in life.

 

[icaritos]

What, apparently I'm not allowed to hate both those fuckers? :|

My thoughts exactly.

 

[Tehlanna TPX]

Both should be barred from playing, let alone earning an dubious accolades. Their skill is completely insignificant to me in the face of what they have done.

Except, legally, Kobe did nothing. We have a legal system for a reason. Innocent until proven guilty. He was proven innocent.

 

[TheDudeMan14]

I read the details for what Micheal Vick has been charged for, and he tortured dogs for years before getting caught, and he murdered them in torturous ways. So I think he shouldn't get the cover, and honestly he should be banned from the NFL and if the Eagle's weren't so desperate for a Super Bowl win I think he would have been banned. Not officially but no other team even wanted him after he came back.


Damn...there was more hate in there then intended..

 

[Hucket]

I said this is the other thread about this, Vick paid his dues, and as such his past should be left there. Kobe bought the silence of his victim, morally that's replusive, legally its fine. Neither of this athletes should have their playing careers marred by what they do off the field.

 

[Grond Strong]

I could see if it was a "Law and Order Crime" game and he was portrayed as the protagonist. But if he is displayed on the cover as a football player playing football as his profession then it shouldn't matter what the guy has done. He's part of the roster right? He's a good football player right? Why can't he be on the cover?

To me, this is a judgement call to be made by EA. If they put Vick on the cover then it might please some people but outrage others and result in them boycotting the game/sending hate mail/spamming up game forums. Do I agree with what the guy did? No. Dog fighting is a horrible thing to participate in. But do I agree with the recent post by "The Big Picture" that it is one of the "most low things one could do?" Erm... no. C'mon guys, you EAT animals and LIKE them. Yes, dogfighting is different and cruel, true. But there are MUCH worse things that could have been committed before he was a disputed cover for EA. And if they were committed, I doubt that Vick would even have the opportunity to be on the cover for a football game. Maybe a prison break game...

Bottom line is this. Video games are made to please the audience and make money for the producers right? Apparently fans of Vick don't care about his legality issues and want him on the cover anyways. So, EA does what the majority of their fans want and makes money off of it. Moral or not, it's called Capitalism and it IS legal.

 

[RicoGrey]

Bryant did not rape her, but she feels as though she was raped. To put it as simply as possible, the girl is screwed up in the head. She was abused/raped in the past, and this has lead her to have all sorts of weird feelings during consensual intercourse, that might confuse her into thinking she is being raped again.