Poll: Dragon Age II
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I was sceptic over the game, but after seeing a price tag at £12 for a while I eventually decided to get the damn thing. Should turn up in my mail any day now! I don't think it'll be as bad as this community has made it out to be to be honest... but who knows. I didn't even like the first game that much though.
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How much do you have to spend? Because if you've got a pretty good computer, and about $25 more, you could snag The Witcher 2, which was a far superior RPG and undoubtedly a longer, finer-tuned, and an all around far more quality experience.
The DLC is also free.
Here's basically all you need to know about DA2. Most people hate on it simply because of it's mechanical flaws of which there are plenty. There's only really two or three dungeon areas that are copy-pasted throughout the game instead of making each dungeon area unique like in DA2. Fights occur in waves, leaving you to kill a group of enemies before the next wave pops out, and often there'll be a few enemies that don't engage in combat leaving you to look around to find'em and finish the fight.Shadows Risen said:
Others didn't like it because of the way it's story was presented. The most glaring accusation is that it has little if nothing to do with the plot from DAO. That's not entirely true, but indeed The Warden never shows up and other than a few varying sidequests, the actions you perform in DAO have little effect on events in DA2. Also, where as in DAO you travel around an entire country, DA2 takes place entirely in a single city and three locations outside of the city. There's also the fact that most critize it for being a heavily story driven game that doesn't really have a story.
That is the point that I argue against, I'd link you to a topic I made that fully explains my argument but it contains a ton of spoilers. Suffice to say that in my opinion it has a very strong story that flows well and is rather compelling. The format is simply "Days in the life of Hawke (main character)". It really does seem to just be Hawke living out his/her life in this city, but the overarching themes are there.
In short: if you like your RPGs to be very heavily story-driven, then I'd say you should give DA2 a shot. But you will indeed have to be willing to overlook the games numerous mechanical flaws.
Well this one is really bad, at one point I found the remains of a priest or someone, and when I returned it to the person he said "Oh! I've been looking for this everywhere, Thank you!" I mean it's just a generated response instead of an actual quest.SpaceBat said:
If you can get it for very cheap, yes. Don't pay more than fifteen bucks for it, though. It's not worth it.
Their "idea" of different dungeons is to literally block off sections of the same exact cave, I'm not even kidding, they maybe made 3 maps for the entire game and just blocked random paths to make them different, this alone sets the tone for a game that can only be called lazy
Combat is better than DA:O, but the story is the real catch. It's not you trying to save the world, it's just you living out your unfortunately eventful life. It's a shift some didn't like. Personally I loved it, the characters are as interesting and vibrant as always and the personal story works for me.
As for the oft criticized lack of choice... well, it's part of the story, really. You are just one man caught in something much bigger than you, a series of events beyond the control of one person. You play a part in conflicts born out of social upheaval more than anything else, there's no big baddy, there's no evil to defeat.
Actually, come to thing of it, the big plot is a framing device to help develop the characters and the relationships between them more than anything else.
I found it a refreshing change from all the "chosen one" stories.
The environments are a real issue, there's about 5 in the entire game. You will spend your time in the same cave, in the same mansion, and in the same slums with the same 2-3 waves of enemies spawning out of thing air.
Overall, I actually liked DA2 more than Origins, so my opinion is get it. You can probably get it cheap too on a Steam sale if you wait a bit.
As for the oft criticized lack of choice... well, it's part of the story, really. You are just one man caught in something much bigger than you, a series of events beyond the control of one person. You play a part in conflicts born out of social upheaval more than anything else, there's no big baddy, there's no evil to defeat.
Actually, come to thing of it, the big plot is a framing device to help develop the characters and the relationships between them more than anything else.
I found it a refreshing change from all the "chosen one" stories.
The environments are a real issue, there's about 5 in the entire game. You will spend your time in the same cave, in the same mansion, and in the same slums with the same 2-3 waves of enemies spawning out of thing air.
Overall, I actually liked DA2 more than Origins, so my opinion is get it. You can probably get it cheap too on a Steam sale if you wait a bit.
Go for it, I plan to. I know there's a lot of people who say that it's horrible, but I really like Dragon Age Origins and want to give the second a chance.
It's a fun game, there are parts that are repedative in reguards to the level desgins but you really do become connected with your compaions their plights and genuinely sad when a tragity occuired to Hawke's family.
Besides it's really cheap now so if you don't like it you haven't waste much money and can jsut return it anyway.
Besides it's really cheap now so if you don't like it you haven't waste much money and can jsut return it anyway.
I voted EA/Bioware should burn, but I'd still recommend getting it, as long as its fairly cheap.
Just go into it knowing its very different from Origins, the combats faster(and flashier) and the art style is changed.
I really hated almost all the changes, but I did still have fun on my first playthrough. The changes irritated me, but I had a story to distract me. Once I'd finished it, I only really had the urge to play it to see what I could influence in the story.(As it turns out, not a whole lot.)
Just go into it knowing its very different from Origins, the combats faster(and flashier) and the art style is changed.
I really hated almost all the changes, but I did still have fun on my first playthrough. The changes irritated me, but I had a story to distract me. Once I'd finished it, I only really had the urge to play it to see what I could influence in the story.(As it turns out, not a whole lot.)
The game plays quite well for a hack and slash game. The controls are pretty solid, and the game is challenging, but not impossible. Just like in Origins, the high dragon was the hardest enemy in the game.
The story was filled with enough twists for most of the game.
EDIT:I wouldn't buy it.
The story was filled with enough twists for most of the game.
Once you hit the end, then the story all just falls apart.
http://www.escapistmagazine.com/articles/view/columns/firstperson/9353-When-Dragon-Age-II-Fell-Apart
http://www.escapistmagazine.com/articles/view/columns/firstperson/9353-When-Dragon-Age-II-Fell-Apart
EDIT:I wouldn't buy it.
I would say get it. Rent it or buy it for cheap.
I enjoyed the characters and the story. The fact that Hawke stayed in this one city made sense for me so I wasn't too annoyed with the lack of travel to many places.
I liked how things connected over the game and the little throwbacks to the first game if you did certain missions of followed certain patterns.
And Sarcastic!Hawke is the best thing ever imo.
Either way, it would be best to form your own opinion.
I enjoyed the characters and the story. The fact that Hawke stayed in this one city made sense for me so I wasn't too annoyed with the lack of travel to many places.
I liked how things connected over the game and the little throwbacks to the first game if you did certain missions of followed certain patterns.
And Sarcastic!Hawke is the best thing ever imo.
Either way, it would be best to form your own opinion.
For DA: 2 I enjoyed the combat and some of the characters, that said:
I disliked the hollowed out locations and NPC'S, the irrelevance of the decisions you made and how they unaffect the plot, weird pacing, and not much depth to what's going on, you feel like you have no control over what you do or what you want, and the story also lacks focus and a serious amount of wasted potential.
Add to that the re-used maps, the cheesy character models, almost no character customization, a less tactical gameplay, a speech wheel that simplifies, reduces and streamlines the absurdly in-depth and enjoyable dragon age: origins system, plu some old characters jumping the shark from their DA:O persona, and you got yourself an angry fanbase.
I felt sad, because I actually liked the banter, and even Hawke as a character, but so much depth was taken from DA:O it just saddens me.
I disliked the hollowed out locations and NPC'S, the irrelevance of the decisions you made and how they unaffect the plot, weird pacing, and not much depth to what's going on, you feel like you have no control over what you do or what you want, and the story also lacks focus and a serious amount of wasted potential.
Add to that the re-used maps, the cheesy character models, almost no character customization, a less tactical gameplay, a speech wheel that simplifies, reduces and streamlines the absurdly in-depth and enjoyable dragon age: origins system, plu some old characters jumping the shark from their DA:O persona, and you got yourself an angry fanbase.
I felt sad, because I actually liked the banter, and even Hawke as a character, but so much depth was taken from DA:O it just saddens me.
I loved it personally.
Everything about it was great but keep in mind; I hated Dragon Age Origins so... call it a wash if you like. >.>
Everything about it was great but keep in mind; I hated Dragon Age Origins so... call it a wash if you like. >.>