Poll: E-cigs

[Christemo]

heard about something called the E-cig a few weeks ago. its an electric cigarette that tastes like normal cigs, is not unhealthy, and make steam instead of smoke. if all smokers went over to this, i think hospitals would have alot less lung-cancer patients.

to round it up, it gives the smokers the pleasure of smoking without it damaging their health? how cool would that be? if these become available soon, i might turn over to smoking. of course E-cigs.

 

[Inverse Skies]

It gives smokers the pleasure of smoking but not the nicotine fix which has addicted them to smoking. Actually this sort of thing worries me quite a lot, as it's basically saying to children that is it alright to smoke this form of cigarette as it is not damaging at all. How does it replicate the taste of tobacco anyway?

Do you have a link to an article or something? As there's a few unanswered questions from this.

 

[rekabdarb]

well... i doubt that most smokers would go to this, but then again government has decided to fuck over the smoking population by raising more taxes on cigarettes. Free my ass, we have rights that can be easily taken away at any time as they all have at one point.

Just remember people Everything your parents said about
*Smoking is Right*

LAMEE my little trick didn't work i tried to make the above statement in the middle of my post

 

[Erana]

Its all in the nicotine....
Of course, it would prolly be a good phycological helper for someone trying to quit.

 

[S.H.A.R.P.]

My aunt tried it for a while. She was and - unfortunately for her - still is smoking. It costs a shit load of money, it didn't give a comparably satisfying taste, and you needed to suck like your life depended on it (might be useful training for the younger lasses though). It was a nice idea, but it just wasn't good enough to persuade her to stop smoking.

 

[Christemo]

It gives smokers the pleasure of smoking but not the nicotine fix which has addicted them to smoking. Actually this sort of thing worries me quite a lot, as it's basically saying to children that is it alright to smoke this form of cigarette as it is not damaging at all. How does it replicate the taste of tobacco anyway?

Do you have a link to an article or something? As there's a few unanswered questions from this.

no, sorry, found it in a paper. will try to search for one.

 

[Christemo]

It gives smokers the pleasure of smoking but not the nicotine fix which has addicted them to smoking. Actually this sort of thing worries me quite a lot, as it's basically saying to children that is it alright to smoke this form of cigarette as it is not damaging at all. How does it replicate the taste of tobacco anyway?

Do you have a link to an article or something? As there's a few unanswered questions from this.

all i could find was:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/E-cigarette

 

[Christemo]

Its all in the nicotine....
Of course, it would prolly be a good phycological helper for someone trying to quit.

theres a nicotine alternative in it.

 

[Doug]

It gives smokers the pleasure of smoking but not the nicotine fix which has addicted them to smoking. Actually this sort of thing worries me quite a lot, as it's basically saying to children that is it alright to smoke this form of cigarette as it is not damaging at all. How does it replicate the taste of tobacco anyway?

Do you have a link to an article or something? As there's a few unanswered questions from this.

it has no damaging effects at all, yet it worries you?

The UN report basically says 'there is no short term damage from using them but we don't know if there are any long-term ones'.

I basically view it like this:
Normal Cig:
Hundreds and hundreds of dangerous chemicals, and tar, to give your lungs a tarmacking.

E-Cigs:
Water vapour and Vapourised Nicotine - probably abit more dangerous that regular nicotine.

Overall, I'd say E-Cigs are far less dangerous that a 'real' cig.

 

[Caimekaze]

It gives smokers the pleasure of smoking but not the nicotine fix which has addicted them to smoking. Actually this sort of thing worries me quite a lot, as it's basically saying to children that is it alright to smoke this form of cigarette as it is not damaging at all. How does it replicate the taste of tobacco anyway?

Do you have a link to an article or something? As there's a few unanswered questions from this.

Well, it's illegal in Australia, so I guess it doesn't really affect us.

 

[Iron Mal]

If it has no harmful properties at all then I don't see where any potential problem could lie (cost of constantly replacing batteries?).

One is inhaling noxious chemicals for pleasure while the other is sticking an electrical gizmo in your mouth for pleasure, which is the lesser of two evils?

 

[Doug]

If it has no harmful properties at all then I don't see where any potential problem could lie (cost of constantly replacing batteries?).

One is inhaling noxious chemicals for pleasure while the other is sticking an electrical gizmo in your mouth for pleasure, which is the lesser of two evils?

Nicotine is a harmful chemical in of itself - I believe it makes your heart pump faster, so not massively harmful, but it does raise your blood pressure. That said, I suspect e-cigs are nearly harmless, especially compared to real cigs.

 

[Inverse Skies]

it has no damaging effects at all, yet it worries you?

Yes, think about it. It simulates the experience of smoking a cigarette, which in theory could mean that if young people were to try out the e-cig they might become used to the idea of smoking because they might find the taste pleasurable say. This is the exact opposite of what we want to happen, we want people to smoke less not more. If such a thing as the e-cig were to ever be useful it would be only able to be used in licensed premises by trained doctors in order to help someone break a nicotine addiction, because otherwise it could potentially be used to get kids to start smoking.

 

[Inverse Skies]

all i could find was:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/E-cigarette

Thanks for the link. I'm even more worried than before. It still contains nicotine and hence is addictive, and no studies have proven that it might be effective to get people to stop smoking, all it does is emulate the experience and can still be addictive while only being slightly better for you. I can safely say I do not like the idea of e-cigs at all.

 

[Inverse Skies]

Well, it's illegal in Australia, so I guess it doesn't really affect us.

Lucky us, because after reading what they are and what they can do I don't like the concept at all, especially the idea that they're marketed as a healthier alternative.

 

[ZeroMachine]

I have certain friends that might be interested, but can you imagine the cost? Cigarettes are expensive as is. Other than, you know, lung cancer, that's the biggest issue with smoking.

Unless it's just "buy it once, it never runs out." Which totally makes sense now that I think about it. So yeah, it works.

... Yes, I just had a discussion with myself... Give me a break, I'm tired...

 

[slipknot4]

I find smoking in general a shitload of money crapped away on nothing and therefore i think anything that supports it like e-cigs, nicotine gums/bandage/candy is just wrong.
It has been announced the biggest people killing drug so i don't see what's so good about it.

In my opinion, this will just be an gateway to the "real deal"

 

[Evil Tim]

This is the exact opposite of what we want to happen, we want people to smoke less not more.

I'm sorry, who are 'we' exactly? I want people to smoke as much or as little as they damn well please because they live in a free country that doesn't try to stop them making decisions it doesn't agree with.

In addition, your scenario is blatantly absurd; expensive electronic fake smokes aren't going to be passed around schoolyards, you could just as easily dream up similar scenarios about kids chewing nicotine chewing gum.