Poll: EA being friendly?

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Kstreitenfeld

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lostclause said:
I've never understood the hate for EA myself. I don't know much about the company but they have some good games, some bad ones too but that's always the case.
They have put a lot of good game companies out of work. Westwood being one of them.
 

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Hail Fire 998 said:
I hate both EA and Activision and I dont really care for Ubisoft (after the new PoP, that is.) I'll have to talk to this pho3nix guy. Im interested in what he told you.
Personally I prefer to judge games on their own merits, or that of the developer. EA has a lot of ups and downs, Ubisoft has some good games but they seriously need to think things through before they start a game (a hint for AC2 there). I don't think I've ever played an activision game so I'm in no position to comment there, though they've had a bad run recently with product placement in bionic commando and RE5's partner system. pho3nix is a nice guy, what he told me can be confirmed by wikipedia.
I'll look it up on wikipedia. I look at what EA has published. Lots of IP, but alot of... terrible stuff they threw on the market. Plus, when I think of EA, sims comes to mind. Sims creeps the hell out of me... I only like Activision for the Infinity Ward COD games. I have yet to find any posts be ph3onix, but i think i will in time.
 

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It's a trap. The only thing separating EA from Dr. Doom is that they're too cheap to pay for a giant fortress of evil.

They just have some good PR people, that's all.


One reason people hate EA is they have a tendency of buying talent and/or quality licenses and then ruining them. There was even that news thing where they turned down a bright-eyed MMA guy who wanted to make a game about Mixed Martial Arts. Then, after the success of that one UFC game, EA decided to jump on the bandwagon (after somebody ELSE had already done the hard work of proving it to be a viable market) and attempted to buy the license from the guy they previously had contemptuously shot down. The fellow was not amused with EA.
 

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No, EA is not being friendly. EA is a huge publisher and does not want to be your friend. It only cares about dollars. What you are perceiving as 'friendly gestures' is just clever marketing.
You could say the same about any company. Wouldn't you prefer the company's to use the friendly approach to marketing rather than the catering to the stupid with remake after remake approach.
 

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Kstreitenfeld said:
They have put a lot of good game companies out of work. Westwood being one of them.
Looking them up the only thing I see by them that I know about is command and conquer. Maybe they've had some hidden gems but see the problem. Besides they didn't die, they just went over to petroglyph, who brought us the Empire at war games which were good even if the ground combat was a bit slow (something they did a good job of fixing in the expansion). So I see no great loss.
Hail Fire 998 said:
I'll look it up on wikipedia. I look at what EA has published. Lots of IP, but alot of... terrible stuff they threw on the market. Plus, when I think of EA, sims comes to mind. Sims creeps the hell out of me... I only like Activision for the Infinity Ward COD games. I have yet to find any posts be ph3onix, but i think i will in time.
They do have some bad games like the mediocore harry potter games but there's always some good ones. I don't like the sims either (tend to lose interest after 10 minutes) but I can kinda understand it's appeal.
 

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lostclause said:
Kstreitenfeld said:
They have put a lot of good game companies out of work. Westwood being one of them.
Looking them up the only thing I see by them that I know about is command and conquer. Maybe they've had some hidden gems but see the problem. Besides they didn't die, they just went over to petroglyph, who brought us the Empire at war games which were good even if the ground combat was a bit slow (something they did a good job of fixing in the expansion). So I see no great loss.
Hail Fire 998 said:
I'll look it up on wikipedia. I look at what EA has published. Lots of IP, but alot of... terrible stuff they threw on the market. Plus, when I think of EA, sims comes to mind. Sims creeps the hell out of me... I only like Activision for the Infinity Ward COD games. I have yet to find any posts be ph3onix, but i think i will in time.
They do have some bad games like the mediocore harry potter games but there's always some good ones. I don't like the sims either (tend to lose interest after 10 minutes) but I can kinda understand it's appeal.
Oh no, sims does not bore me. It outright creeps me out. I see the appeal, but its still unnerving.
 

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Activision is the new EA. As for EA... it seems like they've decided to try the Valve model out for the time being. I'm skeptical, but I'm hoping it sticks to some degree.
 

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Yeah...I've encountered rotten fruit that smelled better than this scheme.
 

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People always seem to complain when a company sets out to earn more money. The whole point of a business is to earn a profit. It does not make them monsters, they are not demons, they are not EVIL. They are doing what they do because they need to earn cash to survive and to pay their workers. When a video game company creates a game they try to please as many of their customers as possible. If their customer is happy they're more likely to make more purchases.

Now I know EA doesn't make the best games in the world but some of them are still fun even if only for a short time. The fact that EA's doing a number of "good deeds" does have to do with PR yes... but so what? What do the motives matter if something good comes out of it?
 

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Hail Fire 998 said:
Kstreitenfeld said:
They have put a lot of good game companies out of work. Westwood being one of them.
Looking them up the only thing I see by them that I know about is command and conquer. Maybe they've had some hidden gems but see the problem. Besides they didn't die, they just went over to petroglyph, who brought us the Empire at war games which were good even if the ground combat was a bit slow (something they did a good job of fixing in the expansion). So I see no great loss.
That and Nox which was a really underrated hack n slash rpg much like Diablo (came out after the first and before the second).

Otherwise C&C was good enough by itself to call Westwood an amazing company.
 

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The Apocalypse is near. EA is the vanguard of our destruction. We have no chance to survive make our time. :V

Either that OR someone secretly killed off EA's board of directors and replaced them with nice clones of them....
 

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Kstreitenfeld said:
Hail Fire 998 said:
Kstreitenfeld said:
They have put a lot of good game companies out of work. Westwood being one of them.
Looking them up the only thing I see by them that I know about is command and conquer. Maybe they've had some hidden gems but see the problem. Besides they didn't die, they just went over to petroglyph, who brought us the Empire at war games which were good even if the ground combat was a bit slow (something they did a good job of fixing in the expansion). So I see no great loss.
That and Nox which was a really underrated hack n slash rpg much like Diablo (came out after the first and before the second).

Otherwise C&C was good enough by itself to call Westwood an amazing company.
I think you misquoted there, that wasn't hail fire, it was me. I''m not disputing that C&C was good, especially for its time, but when you see the list of their games only 2 successes (and as you say, Nox was under rated)? Some might consider dune another since it started the RTS fad but they had 20 projects! Frankly it's no surprise that they were forced to take shelter under EA's wing as petroglyph as having few great successes in such a long time would have proven quite expensive. Don't look on it as a EA imperialism but giving these guys a second chance to shine, as they indeed did with EAW.
 

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I might go too far now, but I think EA gives the Wii better support then Nintendo themselfs. I like their WM+ games, good ports (FIFA 09 for example) and many exclusive games like Boom Blox, Skate it (DS) or the coming Dead Space and NFS:Nitro.

And to finish you guys off : EA published Henry Hatsworth.

If you ask me, Activision is going to be the next "evil company"...
 

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HardRockSamurai said:
OK, we've all noticed the shift in the tides lately.

It first began when EA, the company we've all gamers have grown to hate, announced the "Play 4 Free" model, meaning it would release certain games that could be played for free. Four have been announced so far, and to my surprise, they actually look pretty good. I was in the beta for Battlefield Heroes, and saw for myself that it was a solid game. Strange, considering it's EA the lord of all evil.

As if that wasn't strange enough, EA then picked up Brutal Legend, Double Fine's brand new IP, after it had been dropped by Activision. I think this may be the first time I've ever seen EA take interest in a unique game. However, at this point, I didn't care. I was just happy that, one way or another, the game was going to get released. Then it gets really strange.

This happened [http://www.escapistmagazine.com/news/view/93197-EA-Hosting-Panel-on-Homophobia-in-Gaming]

So what has EA been doing as of late:

-releasing games for free
-saving Brutal Legend
-helping the gay community

What on earth will they do next? Hand out copies of The Sims 3 to the homeless?

My friends, something has gone terribly wrong.

What do you make of this?

I think they are evil greedy bastards who do whatever it takes to make money...and that they have finally realized that their reputation is costing them money. So they are trying to change it to make more money. That's all.

Oh and about the helping gay's thing: It bugs me that people refer to anti-homosexual sentiment in general as homophobia. If I found out there was some guy on XBOX live who was having sex with his sister, and I was a jerk who delighted in attacking people who disgust me, I would torment him just because it disgusts me- not because I am afraid of him.

A lot of the time, people attack gay's not because they are afraid of them, but because the gays disgust them. Two different things. Using homophobia as a blanket term to refer to anti-homosexuality is inaccurate. People don't attack Furries because of Furryphobia. They attack Furries because of Furry Disgust. And no, being afraid of homosexuals is not the only reason why homosexuality would disgust them. Anymore than being afraid of furries is the only reason they would disgust people.

We need to teach people that the shouldn't cause pain and anguish for fun, ever, no matter what other people are doing-and that you only have a right to interfere with someone else's life when they are infringing on the rights/well being of others.
 

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Internet Kraken said:
Ormick said:
Internet Kraken said:
HardRockSamurai said:
Internet Kraken said:
I never understood why everyone said EA was so evil in the first place. I've never had a problem with them.
Ever heard of SecuROM?
That had no impression on me.
Ever heard of games that are bland shit? EA is behind most of them.
I just ignore them. Just because a company makes a game I don't like it doesn't mean they are the digital Antichrist.
Well they fucked C&C in the ass and are still planning to continue, thats enough for me.
 

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Dys said:
Internet Kraken said:
I never understood why everyone said EA was so evil in the first place. I've never had a problem with them.
The whole buying out and destroying smaller game developers got them a bad rep, along with over the top DRM and buggy/unfinished games.
Pretty much this.

A few years back they had a terrible rep for being the great evil devourer of good game studios.

after that there was a period that they genuinely seemed to have turned over a new leaf and while not perfect, but not so bad either.

Which they stomped on afterwards by the whole DRM/limited installs lunacy*, putting them right back to square one.

They seem to be trying to be good again, but that only leaves me thinking what great work of evil they're softenening us up for next.

(*i can understand them wanting to do something about piracy, but that doesn't excuse them doing something that has categorically failed at preventing piracy and instead hurts untold numbers of paying customers instead)