Poll: Eating Grapes at the Market: Sampling or Stealing?

[the Dept of Science]

I don't see how valid the argument for "sampling" the grapes is. There are very few other foods where you generally sample it before you buy it, people don't bat an eyelid when they buy meat, fish, dairy, other fruits etc without having a taste beforehand, why do they suddenly give a damn when it comes to grapes? This strikes me as a retroactive rationalisation of something that they know is wrong.
The foods that you do occasionally sample tend to be more pricey things like wine and cheese. This makes sense because you are paying good money for what you hope will be a good product. Grapes on the other hand are pretty damn cheap, so this argument is invalid. Furthermore, even sampling wine and cheese isn't a given. If you were to assume that you could sample it, then you would run into trouble before very long.

 

[SovietSecrets]

Free meal.

 

[EllEzDee]

Neither: it's snacking. If they don't want us snacking they'd seal the grapes up wouldn't they, like those weird yellow packagings they put on bananas.

 

[DevilWithaHalo]

It is stealing. I know 1 grape is not that much but if everyone takes a grape it adds up. Like say 20 grapes a day that is giving no change in grape sampleage and it is open 365 days a year. So in total 7,300 grapes. See how the little things avalanche?

This is a lovely thing people tend to forget. 20 a day would probably be a very conservative estimate.

It's stealing. By virtue of your inability to give back the product which you sampled. And no, they won't accept the tiny turd in trade.

Why not sample some milk while you're at it? You claim the reason is because you're not sure if the grapes will be good right? How do you know the milk will be any good?

 

[Glademaster_v1legacy]

It is stealing. I know 1 grape is not that much but if everyone takes a grape it adds up. Like say 20 grapes a day that is giving no change in grape sampleage and it is open 365 days a year. So in total 7,300 grapes. See how the little things avalanche?

This is a lovely thing people tend to forget. 20 a day would probably be a very conservative estimate.

It's stealing. By virtue of your inability to give back the product which you sampled. And no, they won't accept the tiny turd in trade.

Why not sample some milk while you're at it? You claim the reason is because you're not sure if the grapes will be good right? How do you know the milk will be any good?

Well to add to that you can usually tell fruit is good by the feel of it. You usually if it is firm and plump(I don't care how that sounds) it is good to go. Soft and squishy it is probably gone off.

 

[teebeeohh]

i never got why it's sampling with grapes while it is stealing with everything else

 

[flipin_jackass]

Stealing, but I personally don't have a problem with it... then again, I don't own a grocery store.

 

[Echo136]

Is this really even a discussion? Its stealing. Unless your braindead you should know this.

 

[CarpathianMuffin]

Any more than three, and to me it's stealing.

 

[Littlee300]

It's stealing unless sampling is allowed.

/thread

This is one of the view times where /thread is appropriate.

 

[Xpwn3ntial]

If it is the consumption or use of a product without paying for it beforehand without explicit knowledge to all parties involved that the product is open for free consumption or use, in whole or in part, then it is stealing.

I apply this to many if not all things. Especially video games.

 

[VaudevillianVeteran]

Sampling. Though I usually sneak one when I already have the grapes in my trolley/basket so seeing as I have intention to buy them, yes, sampling.

 

[The_root_of_all_evil]

Sampling if you're going to buy some.
Stealing if you're not.

Mainly because those one's you "steal" are now yours.

 

[Vonnis]

Unless sampling is allowed, that's stealing. Of course there's plenty of people who's idea of sampling grapes (when it is allowed) isn't taking one or two grapes, but as much as they can fit into their hand. The only reason people think it isn't stealing is because grapes are so small "no one will notice, it doesn't matter". Pathetic excuses to ease a conflicted conscience.

 

[The .50 Caliber Cow]

[HEADING=2]If it is the consumption or use of a product without paying for it beforehand without explicit knowledge to all parties involved that the product is open for free sampling, then it is stealing.

I apply this to many if not all things. Especially video games.[/HEADING]

I enlarged your post because it parallels what I was going to say exactly.

 

[Xpwn3ntial]

[HEADING=2]If it is the consumption or use of a product without paying for it beforehand without explicit knowledge to all parties involved that the product is open for free use or consumption, in whole or in part, then it is stealing.

I apply this to many if not all things. Especially video games.[/HEADING]

I enlarged your post because it parallels what I was going to say exactly.

Yeah, people who try to validate piracy that way piss me off more than ones who just want a free product. That's why that last bit was in there.

 

[ace_of_something]

The ages-long debate of married couples the world over finally comes to The Escapist! Eating a single grape at the market, is it sampling the produce, or stealing it?

It is theft enough that we have had to arrest someone for it. Well, that and what is called 'request to leave refusal' the story was the guy was a scary homeless person and the supermarket asked him to leave he said and i quote
"you're not my mom! I'm not your dog!"
The manager said (& the security camera confirmed) that he had eaten about 4 or 5 grapes and ya know, touched a whole bunch of other ones with his gross hands.

Anyway he was given a 'minor theft' charge which is the cost of the items+$250 dollar fine.

 

[Darknacht]

It is both.

 

[Bags159]

If I could get in trouble for sampling a single grape I'd never buy grapes because more often than not they're shitty quality. While it's technically stealing Kroger better let us sample or they'll lose a lot more money. Now taking a big hand full is another issue altogether.

You can tell if bananas are good by looking at them. You can tell if a pepper will be good by looking at it and squeezing it. You can't tell if grapes are good by looking at them. I'll get some amazing look grapes that taste like shit. I'll get some scruffy looking grapes that taste amazing.

It is stealing. I know 1 grape is not that much but if everyone takes a grape it adds up. Like say 20 grapes a day that is giving no change in grape sampleage and it is open 365 days a year. So in total 7,300 grapes. See how the little things avalanche?

This is a lovely thing people tend to forget. 20 a day would probably be a very conservative estimate.

It's stealing. By virtue of your inability to give back the product which you sampled. And no, they won't accept the tiny turd in trade.

Why not sample some milk while you're at it? You claim the reason is because you're not sure if the grapes will be good right? How do you know the milk will be any good?

Probably due to the fact that, I don't know, the milk is in a tough, sealed container when the grapes are in a plastic baggy that's open and porous? Milk is one unit that mixes together while eating one grape doesn't affect the quality of the others. You might be thinking, "but bags, what if their hands are dirty?" You'd be forgetting that you wash grapes before eating them.

 

[The .50 Caliber Cow]

[HEADING=2]If it is the consumption or use of a product without paying for it beforehand without explicit knowledge to all parties involved that the product is open for free use or consumption, in whole or in part, then it is stealing.

I apply this to many if not all things. Especially video games.[/HEADING]

I enlarged your post because it parallels what I was going to say exactly.

Yeah, people who try to validate piracy that way piss me off more than ones who just want a free product. That's why that last bit was in there.

Uh, it has been about 3 hours since I was here but it was:

"If it isn't clear to everybody involved that sampling a product to ensure quality is allowed, you are stealing. If you won't talk to the vender of whatever you want about this and do it anyway, you are just using "sampling" as a weak excuse to ease your moral qualms."

Something like that >.>

As for pirating games, if you claim you are sampling before buying there are already samples called DEMOS! If they don't provide a demo, too bad. Taking the game is still STEALING.