Poll: Elder scrolls or Fallout, what's up next ?

[Signa]

And also, fast travel isn't compulsory, so get this, you can NOT use it, zomg.

The failure of so many people to grasp this simple idea over so many years continues to astound me.

Oblivion fast travel system=shit
Oblivion without fast travel=shit
Oblivion with a fast travel system that makes sense and isn't a teleport cheat that doesn't work indoors=not shit

Um, no? I'm not 100% clear what you are referencing in that last line, but I think you're saying the systems works in the game it is in, though it is shit. I still disagree with that, because the fast travel system is just a player-time saving function where your character just walks to the destination. No Athletics XP gets earned, and no monsters are encountered along the way. It's not a good system at all, because it doesn't properly simulate movement across the world as it is pretending to. If you are truly auto-walking to a destination, then there is no damn reason why a player shouldn't be able to fast travel while inside a building or cave. Not to mention that it's been established that teleportation works in this universe, so why can't I grab 3000 pounds of loot and TP to the nearest town? I can't anymore because my character actually has to walk the distance now.

Look at the travel system in Morrowind: You are literally disappearing from one location and appearing at the other, or you are riding a giant bug that no monster would ever be stupid enough to fuck around with. In the case of personal teleportation, makes more sense than auto-walking. Oblivion fast travel doesn't make the game better or worse, it make it more stupid. That is a damn good reason to ***** about it whether I chose to use it or not.

 

[Ganthrinor]

I'd like to see a new Edler Scrolls with some more combat and NPC interaction innovations.

Yeah sure, Strong-attack/Weak-attack is simple and easy, but let's see some actual fighting style differences between weapon types. Anybody that thinks you use a Warhammer the same way you use a Battleaxe is WRONG.

 

[maturin]

And also, fast travel isn't compulsory, so get this, you can NOT use it, zomg.

The failure of so many people to grasp this simple idea over so many years continues to astound me.

Oblivion fast travel system=shit
Oblivion without fast travel=shit
Oblivion with a fast travel system that makes sense and isn't a teleport cheat that doesn't work indoors=not shit

Um, no? I'm not 100% clear what you are referencing in that last line, but I think you're saying the systems works in the game it is in, though it is shit. I still disagree with that, because the fast travel system is just a player-time saving function where your character just walks to the destination. No Athletics XP gets earned, and no monsters are encountered along the way. It's not a good system at all, because it doesn't properly simulate movement across the world as it is pretending to. If you are truly auto-walking to a destination, then there is no damn reason why a player shouldn't be able to fast travel while inside a building or cave. Not to mention that it's been established that teleportation works in this universe, so why can't I grab 3000 pounds of loot and TP to the nearest town? I can't anymore because my character actually has to walk the distance now.

Look at the travel system in Morrowind: You are literally disappearing from one location and appearing at the other, or you are riding a giant bug that no monster would ever be stupid enough to fuck around with. In the case of personal teleportation, makes more sense than auto-walking. Oblivion fast travel doesn't make the game better or worse, it make it more stupid. That is a damn good reason to ***** about it whether I chose to use it or not.

I think I agree with all points.

I was simply saying that people want a Morrowind-style or Daggerfall-style fast travel system in Oblivion. They don't want the existing system simply to be removed.

And hundreds, perhaps thousands of people on the Bethesda forums just sneer and point out that fast travel is optional. Yeah, because walking everywhere is so much fun.

 

[Levi93]

i hope they make an elder scrolls game that has the depth and complexity of morrowind but with the user friendlyness of oblivion (voice actors ect.)

 

[Addendum_Forthcoming]

Akavir is lame. It has next to no content and its appeal is in hinting at mysterious, unknowable things.

Next to no context? Granted ... but given that the Dragonborn lineage is broken I'd kinda like to explore a world as an Outsider in a world that highly antagonistic of human dominance in Tamriel.

That and I'd kinda like to see what a magical + Monstrous version of the 'Orient' would look like in TES

A magical teleport button is stupid. It's a lazy, immersion-killing cheat.

When people complain about fast travel, they complain about Oblivion's fast travel. They still want fast travel, but they want it to be like in Morrowind, where it was handled by magic and fixed transport routes, or in Daggerfall, where it was justified by means of travel with consequences and costs.

Thank you. Didn't think it actually needed explanation, but I guess some people who haven't played ay TES barring Oblivion would know how it operated before.

Sigh. It's a big world out there. Go look up TSA: Redguard.

Thank you again ... same point as above.

 

[Korten12]

What do you think should be next in line for Bethesda ?

Should they make a elder scrolls game(best known as oblivion and Morrowind, games before them in the series were daggerfall, the largest gameworld ever created, its rougly the size of britain, 64 000 km2 or sumthin, and arena)

OR

should they stick to the much reputable fallout series with the innovative V.A.T.S system ?

Should they integrate V.A.T.S and the EXP level up system into elder scrolls ?

What's your thoughts ?

Please share them.

Well they already have Fallout 4 in development.

 

[maturin]

What do you think should be next in line for Bethesda ?

Should they make a elder scrolls game(best known as oblivion and Morrowind, games before them in the series were daggerfall, the largest gameworld ever created, its rougly the size of britain, 64 000 km2 or sumthin, and arena)

OR

should they stick to the much reputable fallout series with the innovative V.A.T.S system ?

Should they integrate V.A.T.S and the EXP level up system into elder scrolls ?

What's your thoughts ?

Please share them.

Well they already have Fallout 4 in development.

Both games are clearly in development(or rather, TES 4 is, but I'll take your word for it), and will be for some time before either is announced.

 

[cybran]

What do you think should be next in line for Bethesda ?

Should they make a elder scrolls game(best known as oblivion and Morrowind, games before them in the series were daggerfall, the largest gameworld ever created, its rougly the size of britain, 64 000 km2 or sumthin, and arena)

OR

should they stick to the much reputable fallout series with the innovative V.A.T.S system ?

Should they integrate V.A.T.S and the EXP level up system into elder scrolls ?

What's your thoughts ?

Please share them.

Well they already have Fallout 4 in development.

I have yet to see a link to verify this... please post one...

 

[duedmen]

frankly I'm excited for either I love fallout in all it post apocalyptic goodness and I love elder scrolls for its scrolly scrollness

 

[lacktheknack]

Should they make a elder scrolls game(best known as oblivion and Morrowind, games before them in the series were daggerfall, the largest gameworld ever created, its rougly the size of britain, 64 000 km2 or sumthin, and arena)

Nope, it was DOUBLE the size of Britain.

Bethesda said that they'd rather have "more involving, smaller worlds", but I'd rather have a ridiculously massive map in the style of Daggerfall.

 

[lacktheknack]

What do you think should be next in line for Bethesda ?

Should they make a elder scrolls game(best known as oblivion and Morrowind, games before them in the series were daggerfall, the largest gameworld ever created, its rougly the size of britain, 64 000 km2 or sumthin, and arena)

OR

should they stick to the much reputable fallout series with the innovative V.A.T.S system ?

Should they integrate V.A.T.S and the EXP level up system into elder scrolls ?

What's your thoughts ?

Please share them.

Well they already have Fallout 4 in development.

I have yet to see a link to verify this... please post one...

http://lmgtfy.com/?q=fallout+4

 

[Korten12]

What do you think should be next in line for Bethesda ?

Should they make a elder scrolls game(best known as oblivion and Morrowind, games before them in the series were daggerfall, the largest gameworld ever created, its rougly the size of britain, 64 000 km2 or sumthin, and arena)

OR

should they stick to the much reputable fallout series with the innovative V.A.T.S system ?

Should they integrate V.A.T.S and the EXP level up system into elder scrolls ?

What's your thoughts ?

Please share them.

Well they already have Fallout 4 in development.

I have yet to see a link to verify this... please post one...

http://lmgtfy.com/?q=fallout+4

guess I was ninja'd.

 

[RhombusHatesYou]

I have yet to see a link to verify this... please post one...

Apparently in August Todd Howard told Eurogamer that Bethesda have 2 games in development, one for around 2 years and one that was in pre-production. That was all he said. The rest is speculation.


Waitaminute... 2 years into development... OH FUCK NO... that means, unless they're happy to do a complete overhaul to change up engines, ANOTHER FUCKING GAMEBRYO TITLE. AAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRGGGGGGGHHHHHHHH

 

[Laughing Man]

Don't care what game they go with just so long as they up date that damn Gamebyro engine. It is starting to look real old and whilst FONV is without doubt the least buggy game to use this engine it still feels like they are just working round the bugs rather than actually getting rid of them. Just ask anyone who has had to go through the pain in the neck that is getting FONV to run without stutter.

 

[cybran]

What do you think should be next in line for Bethesda ?

Should they make a elder scrolls game(best known as oblivion and Morrowind, games before them in the series were daggerfall, the largest gameworld ever created, its rougly the size of britain, 64 000 km2 or sumthin, and arena)

OR

should they stick to the much reputable fallout series with the innovative V.A.T.S system ?

Should they integrate V.A.T.S and the EXP level up system into elder scrolls ?

What's your thoughts ?

Please share them.

Well they already have Fallout 4 in development.

I have yet to see a link to verify this... please post one...

http://lmgtfy.com/?q=fallout+4

well, there we are, but it seems that TES is farther along in development according to the wiki:

" Given the fact that Fallout: New Vegas is finished, it is reasonable to assume Fallout 4 is the title in pre-production, and The Elder Scrolls V is the title farther along in development." - Fallout wiki

yippi!

 

[maturin]

What do you think should be next in line for Bethesda ?

Should they make a elder scrolls game(best known as oblivion and Morrowind, games before them in the series were daggerfall, the largest gameworld ever created, its rougly the size of britain, 64 000 km2 or sumthin, and arena)

OR

should they stick to the much reputable fallout series with the innovative V.A.T.S system ?

Should they integrate V.A.T.S and the EXP level up system into elder scrolls ?

What's your thoughts ?

Please share them.

Well they already have Fallout 4 in development.

I have yet to see a link to verify this... please post one...

http://lmgtfy.com/?q=fallout+4

well, there we are, but it seems that TES is farther along in development according to the wiki:

" Given the fact that Fallout: New Vegas is finished, it is reasonable to assume Fallout 4 is the title in pre-production, and The Elder Scrolls V is the title farther along in development." - Fallout wiki

yippi!

No surprise that the Fallout wiki is guilty of wishful thinking.

There have been plenty of rumblings about TES V, such as the copyright of the province it will be (almost certainly) be set in and leaked lore tidbits from excited writers.

 

[Korten12]

What do you think should be next in line for Bethesda ?

Should they make a elder scrolls game(best known as oblivion and Morrowind, games before them in the series were daggerfall, the largest gameworld ever created, its rougly the size of britain, 64 000 km2 or sumthin, and arena)

OR

should they stick to the much reputable fallout series with the innovative V.A.T.S system ?

Should they integrate V.A.T.S and the EXP level up system into elder scrolls ?

What's your thoughts ?

Please share them.

Well they already have Fallout 4 in development.

no, the elder scrolls is in development. fallout is not in development and will most likely go to obsidian again.

No you clearly haven't been keeping up with news on the subject:

http://fallout.wikia.com/wiki/Fallout_4