Poll: Emotion in acting - Film or Stage?

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Trivun

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I know it's 5 in the morning here in the UK, but bear with me on this. I've been involved in a minor Twitter debate tonight with a couple of friends who disagree partly with my views on theatre and film. One of them (who disagrees with me on the film matter) actually studies a film related course at our uni, while I have done English Lit at A-Level and have both acted on stage and done camera and writing and editing work for films.

Basically, last night (or tonight if you want to be pedantic) I went to see a performance of the play Closer at my student union. The play was written in the Nineties or early Noughties, I believe, and later adapted into a film with Jude Law and Clive Owen a few years ago. I saw the film first, and have the DVD, and after seeing the play tonight performed by students (one of whom I know) I have to say I prefer the play. But during the performance, a thought struck me, as we saw some of the more intimate scenes. Also bear in mind, the play was in a fairly closed space, with a stage section and a lower section right by the front row (where I was seated).

What I thought was that when you see a play, you are intrinsically much more connected, emotionally, to the characters and to what happens on stage. The reason for this is because the actors are physically there, you could almost reach out and touch them. And because they're so close, and so real, it makes the audience feel so voyeuristic, as if we're simply intruding on the private lives of these people, these characters. Note that I had that same feeling every time one of the more emotional scenes came along (Larry and Anna arguing, Dan kissing Alice, the opening in the hospital, etc.). This is something I've felt often when I've seen plays, and even acting in them (I was in The Crucible a few years ago, and it was performed in a small drama studio, in one scene I was seated while acting less than two feet away from the audience).

In films, we don't have this. I feel like the screen itself acts sort of like a barrier, as if it's seperating you from what's going on. On the one hand, it's similar, like looking through a window, but at the same time what we see is limited and controlled, we may only be able to see one character's speech or reactions, whereas in a play you can see everything in the scene.

Here's what one of my friends had to say about the subject:

"I feel like the fact the actors are there makes it artificial.. With a film you feel like you're in their world"

Obviously this is a short comment meaning something larger, this is Twitter we're debating through after all. I have to say though, I personally feel the opposite is true instead. Since I had this feeling during Closer, by the way, it's worth mentioning that part of the play is specifically meant to make you feel uncomfortable and whatnot. One of the characters is very emotionally unstable, for example, and the entire premise of the play revolves around four people effectively ruining each other's lives through their relationships with each other...

So, what I want to know is what do you think? Do you agree that theatre makes you more emotionally invested in characters, or do you agree that film does so instead? What are your thoughts on the idea of looking into a character's life, and so on?

EDIT: Also, if you vote in the poll, then can you PLEASE post your view as well? I add the poll for an easier rundown of opinions, but I want to know details and reasons, not just 'Yes' or 'No', thank you.

EDIT 2: As another note, can people also say what their thoughts would be if the theatre scenario was a choice? Because there is a massive difference, I feel, in experiencing this in a small closed space like a drama studio, and a big open classical theatre. Hell, I've even known of plays at my university that have taken place in people's houses, in really small environments, and there's the aforementioned Crucible where I was two feet away from the audience, yet I also saw a great performance of Rent where it was in a more traditional stage setting...
 

Trolldor

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Film, for a number of reasons.

A film has the advantage of 'real' scenery, close-up shots, and voices only need to be carried to the microphone establishing a much greater register of expression.
 

katsumoto03

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I prefer film on so many levels. The quality of the actor's voices is better and sounds like they're only feet from you, the performances are (usually) better thanks to multiple takes and the cinematography can really add to immersion.
 

Nooners

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Gonna have to agree with both of the above, for all the reasons they stated. Theater is also great, but it's not quite as effective.
 

Berethond

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I think they're both equal, in terms of emotional connection.
Good writing is really what connects you to the acting. (Along with good acting I suppose.)

I'm not a fan of ...intimate scenes in theater. I always feel dirty afterward :/
 

MoNKeyYy

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Theatre, without a doubt. I had a big post made up but the stupid posting rules thing wouldn't let me pass...

Anyways, here's the meat of it:
Film has more aids, more filters, and more, well, stuff that emotion has to travel through when it's being conveyed from the actor to the audience. These barriers don't exist in live theatre, allowing for a direct flow of emotional energy from the actors to the audience.
 

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I prefer film for drama. Though that may have something to do with the fact that the majority of stage works I've seen have been musicals. Both are great for getting across emotions, but I prefer lighthearted stage productions. I think the physical comedy works better on stage. Things like pathetic fallacy are much easier to express on film.
 

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It really depends. Some scripts play out better in particular settings. As you mentioned, you can attain a new kind of intimacy in theatre, depending on how you stage a play and the actual layout of the theatre itself. On the other hand, film does offer other options for realism and added visual and emotional effects. Overall, some things will work better on screen, others, better onstage. Neither medium is perfect at portraying every single script every time. That's why many recent movie-musicals have been critically panned, or film-actors performing on stage receive poor reviews and contribute to a play's mediocrity (think Julia Roberts in "Three Days Rain"). Some scripts just don't translate well across mediums.
 

Trivun

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Berethond said:
I think they're both equal, in terms of emotional connection.
Good writing is really what connects you to the acting. (Along with good acting I suppose.)

I'm not a fan of ...intimate scenes in theater. I always feel dirty afterward :/
Ah, but that's exactly my point, and that is what makes the emotional connection more real and more 'there'. Closer is a play where the audience is made to feel dirty, and the way this performance was staged just enhanced that with the up-close nature of it. It's a feeling I didn't get when I saw the film version, which is basically why I thought of this in the first place :p
 

Neverhoodian

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Depends on the type of story being told for me. For stories that have varied locales and epic set pieces, film works better. For intimate narratives that center on the psyche of a few main characters, stage is more effective.

The way the stage is used can make quite an impact as well. For instance, I saw the stage production of Sweeney Todd a few years ago. The particular building that it was held at was a novelty for me, as the stage was in the center with the audience sitting all around it. Instead of arriving from behind the curtain, the actors would arrive from the corners of the theater and walk in, right past the aisles. It made me feel more like I was an actual observer of a real event.

One particularly powerful moment was when Sweeney loses all sense of perspective and decides to go on his murderous rampage. The actor whipped around in a frenzy and pointed to audience members yelling,

Who sir, you sir?
No one in the chair, come on! Come on!
Sweeney's waiting. I want you bleeders.
You sir - anybody.
Gentlemen don't be shy!

It was a masterful breaking of the fourth wall.
 

Biosophilogical

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It's less about the medium than how it is used. Theatre, done right can be incredibly moving, and film has the advantage of editing, close-ups, being able to repeat scenes until they are 'just right'. A theatre can rarely get such a precision feel to it as film, but film can rarely, if ever, engage the audience in the same way as a theatre.
 

Wrists

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Anyone who can act convincingly on stage will be able to act very convincingly in film, allowing for a similar level of emotional connection. This is why a good few of the "great actors" we think of these days are classically trained.

That being said there are of course some very talented film actors who don't perform on stage. The way I think about it is that the stage is a medium of extremes, if it's done badly it will be really bad and everyone will leave thinking "Oh why did I waste my time?" whereas if it's done well it will reach the audience in a way that no other medium can. With film, if it's bad at least you can laugh about it with friends. If it's good, it's unlikely that it will go beyond "I would watch that again".

On an unrelated note, I love theatre more because of the scope for stylisation. People may say that it's more real in film but ultimately that's because they're still focused on Stanislavskian ideas. There's so much more that can be done and some people that are moving in the right direction but it's miles behind the stage in that respect.
 

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it all depends on how it's done. if someone is a master of their craft they can immerse you with little more than a few words.

Minimalist theatre, the talking heads kind can be just as immersive as say a world created as richly as the world in avatar. without any sets and just actors dressed in plain clothes.
both can have just as much spectacle as the other, film in terms of technology as well as theatre, but while theatre doesn't have the same level of technology its just as immersive because its happening live. you are amazed because everything in front of you is real and in the moment.

Theatre can be more than film, but film can be just as intimate by bringing you closer to the actor than theatre ever could.

they're entirely different animals when it comes to storytelling. which is why the people you'll see at the national theatre aren't necessarily the people you'd see at the cinema. it will always come down to personal preference.

I'm an actor by the way, studied it for a long time and i'm now starting to work in the field professionally. it's not really something you could ever really get a definitive answer to without popularity having a bearing on the result. because each art form has its own fan base.

so neither, basically!

and one more thing!

MoNKeyYy said:
Film has more aids.
I feel INCREDIBLY immature for getting a laugh out of that XD
 

linwolf

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They are about the same level, but I don't think neither of them very good at it compared to books.
 
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Both needs to be an option.

I haven't seen that much really good theatre, but I saw Ian McKellan and Patrick Stewart in Waiting for Godot and it was one of those moments I'll never forget. The emotion and connection I felt to the characters on that stage was palpable. Equally I once saw a production of Midsummer Night's Dream at the Minack Theatre in Penzance, and it was utterly unforgettable how the play I'd always liked but never gotten really emotionally invested in came completely to life.

And of course film can affect you just as emotionally. Neither one is better then the other, but then neither one is significantly worse than the other. It's apples and oranges, the same as trying to compare books and films, or videogames and sculpture. Some people just won't respond the same way. Just because Theatre and Film both happen to involve actors doesn't make them similar enough for comparison, because television also involves actors, as do videogames, but you probably wouldn't seriously compare any of them.
 

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I don't think we should generalise, but if I had to, I'd risk saying that theatre is better equipped to draw the audience in.

However, people like me, raised mostly on cinema and television, aren't exactly prepated to appreciate theatre. Film is a voyeuristic experience, it pretends to be life and lets you peek. Theatre knows you're there and you know it's pretending, so you need to approach it with a slightly different set of expectations.
 

comadorcrack

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Theater because I'm doing a drama degree, and frankly I'm bias.

Though I will also say that in film I always feel like this word has been constructed and its all very pretty and the acting is usually as good as the actor can do because its the best of all the takes, I can't help but feel like its all... artificial... on stage its live you can see the actors engaging with each other and really feel the emotional change from scene to scene...

also I am bias, just want you to all bear that in mind.
 

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MelasZepheos said:
I haven't seen that much really good theatre, but I saw Ian McKellan and Patrick Stewart in Waiting for Godot and it was one of those moments I'll never forget. The emotion and connection I felt to the characters on that stage was palpable.
also I would just like to say to you sir!


I think that pretty much sums up my feelings towards everyone who got to see that when I didn't :'(